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New man - landline/email?

151 replies

theendishere · 05/07/2012 22:39

Been seeing some a few weeks - only have his mob number. He took longer than usual to reply to a text and it occurred to me that if phone broke or something, no way of contacting eachother, so asked him for his landline/email address. He hasn't given them to me and (apprently jokingly) called me a stalker...
was i wrong to ask?

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bogeyface · 09/07/2012 00:24

its called the "honeymoom phase" for a reason!

The reason being, I cant type :o

I meant honeymoon obviously!

TheHappyHissy · 09/07/2012 07:26

Honey, you're not a fool, far from it.

It's just that you need to do some preparation. You can't really skip that phase.

If you met Mr RightOne now, HE would probably run for the hills. You need a couple of Mr TransitionMans, but you still need to get rid of the ex.

Good luck, you'll get there!

sawseesaw · 09/07/2012 07:53

This man is refusing to use condoms. He has talked about a 'test'. What is it for? All known STDs? What's he going to show you? A piece of paper saying "everything's negative, absolutely no STDs here. Love from, A. Doctor."
Never mind the rest of the weirdness (of which their is plenty), that alone should be enough.
If you're not in a place to protect your mental health, at least look after yourself physically.

theendishere · 09/07/2012 08:15

To be fair, it's not that he refused to wear a condom. He did put one on but couldn't keep it up (sorry if tmi!).
The place he's going to text results so he said he'd show me the text

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peppapiglet · 09/07/2012 08:37

teis
i didnt realise i though you hadnt had a sexual encounter with him yet, so did it actually happen he just couldnt keep it up with you? i thought he had just told you he couldnt keep it up with condoms?

theendishere · 09/07/2012 09:20

to put it blunty - it was up until the condom went on!!

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theendishere · 09/07/2012 09:20

bluntly

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peppapiglet · 09/07/2012 09:22

so you havent had full sex then? what did you do? sounds psychological to me? could you not "help" him a bit?

theendishere · 09/07/2012 09:26

No not had full sex. Does seem to be a psychological block - he was upset with himself and upset as i was, especially when i said that we'd have to end things. That;s when i suggested the test instead

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peppapiglet · 09/07/2012 09:47

oh thats a little harsh, you said straight away you'd end things? to me i think he was nervous.. when are you seeing him?

theendishere · 09/07/2012 10:42

i said i'd end things as didnt want to be messed around. had plaaned to see him tonight but not heard from him yet today...

Was it harsh?!

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peppapiglet · 09/07/2012 15:08

ah i thought you said you would end things after he couldnt get it up... have you heard from him?

TheHappyHissy · 09/07/2012 15:21

The bloke I was seeing before was like this, rock hard until I went anywhere near it. OK so the guy had ishoos, and in fact his ishoos had ishoos as it turned out, but it was a factor in my decision to end it.

Of course in the end he didn't go quietly, I had to call the police Confused

At the time, I did give him the benefit of the doubt, but 2 attempts and 2 no-gos then tbh, that was the icing on the cake I needed to justify my decision to move on.

This guy is an unknown, you don't know him really, you have met him a handful of times and tried to have sex. It's not worked. It might be that he's not sure of YOU, it might be that he has problems and was hoping that YOU would solve them for him. You don't know, you just don't know.

I think if you are having this amount of trouble this early on, it's a sign that it's not meant to be.

I think you need to be by yourself for a little while, to see who YOU are again, without the Formerly Known As Mrs.... You will have changed, you will have learnt a lot about yourself that you don't fully know yet. You will have new boundaries that YOU set and YOU insist on, you won't know them just yet as you are still living in some Defunct Marriage Holding Pen.

Take time out to get to know YOU, once the marriage has finally dissolved, it's a discovery that really is so worth it.

peppapiglet · 09/07/2012 15:43

thats interesting THH.. i ended recent relationship for controlling/possessive/needy issues and also i didnt feel fully satisfied in the bedroom. He harassed me and i was on the verge of calling the police but i didnt. his ex wife had ridiculed him about the size of his penis. in the end it was one of the factors i couldnt continue, there was nothing he could do about it, but i just wasnt satisfied. sex is important to me so there you go... i dont think it makes me shallow though
Im still getting to know ME following divorce
are these relationships perhaps transitions to meeting "the one"?

TheHappyHissy · 09/07/2012 16:08

WRT to Mr Transitions? IMVHO absolutely YES!

I have had very limited online dating experience but have learned a TON in the process, which I'll share now.

My exP was abusive. When I came back to this country I was so traumatised I developed agoraphobia. I couldn't look men in the face at all, let alone speak to them. I spent 6m thinking I was invisible, trudging from home to school to work, to home to school, shutting the curtains and sleeping until the next day. That was Ok for a while (6m), but then I 'met' a bloke on Twitter that was a whirlwind tweetfest, on DM. He pushed me to skype him, he pushed me to see him. I suspected something wasn't right, turns out he was married, so after a false start, i finally ended it.

It left me with the realisation of how goddamned empty my life was, and how good it had been to feel that someone was interested in me.

So I joined a dating site, met someone for coffee, he never called again. OK.. hurt but manageable. Then there was someone else we texted/emailed all over christmas and new year, arranging to meet when the kids were going to go back to school. We met, he wasn't at all as he described, but I felt I had to go on and meet him again as he was a nice person, he'd had a hard time, he had a huge beard that needed to come off needed work, but his heart seemed kind. Chemistry wasn't there, something wasn't right. I never knew what it was that was nagging me, but I called it a day anyway.

Then I met someone else. Really communicative, funny, on same wave length, but he was going to work in South Africa for a couple of weeks so we'd meet up face to face then. We spent the whole of his trip on constant BBM, he'd go on a tour of a weekend, take pics and send them to me, I felt as if I was a companion, I couldn't wait to meet him. We met uo, had dinner, I missed the last train home (honest) I stayed at his (nothing happened bar a snog) he stopped talking to me the next day and then texted me to say there was 'No spark' I was GUTTED.

So I signed up for another site, and was chatting to a guy, (S). He went on a date with someone, I wished him well, told him that I too can't juggle, and also that I had also been contacted by someone and had met up with him so we'd park it for now. He got dumped by the woman he was with the very next date, I carried on with the other bloke.

Looking back all the signs were there, he turned out to be manipulative, potentially controlling, and totally disrespectful of my feelings AND he couldn't maintain an erection

I ended it with him, having ignored my instinct initially, but then listening to it.

As I had promised to do, I emailed S, we chatted for a couple days, and went out for dinner. That was almost 3m ago, we have been seeing each other ever since.

Had I met S a year ago, I would not have been ready. I would have been too needy, too frightened of it all going wrong.

Through MrSoftee, I learned that my instincts were right all along, that I had the right to end the relationship, and that I deserved better than someone who didn't consider my feelings at all. I now knew that IF another abuser came along, I would spot him and I would bin him. I no longer had the fear of it all going wrong.

If S is not The One for me, then I'd like to see who is... If he is STILL Transitional Man, then I have even better in my future. I see no bleakness, only a journey to freedom and happiness to continue on.

There is no rush, I'm prepared to wait.

Apols for hijack, but I hope it will help Op to see that it's not as ALL or nothing as I think she thinks it is.

i'm 44 btw, no oil painting, 4st overweight and have just lost my job... I'm willing to bet that most people have a better hand than I have to play!

Grin
peppapiglet · 09/07/2012 16:26

omg TTH. thank you for sharing... i am still at the beginning of the journey it seems you have already experienced. i hope S is "the one" for you :-)
i was too soft with the exP to the detriment of my own health :-( i had mixed instincts at the beginning but gave him the benefit of the doubt.... i was too understanding i think...
hopefully the OP will realise too.... the way your described the stage the OP is at hit the nail on the head for me too. thanks for enlightening me :-)

theendishere · 09/07/2012 17:35

No, didn't say i'd end it as he couldn't get it up!! Said i'd end it if he didn't use condoms/have a test.
Yes have heard from him. maybe if i just treat him as a transition thing, and back off a bit in my owne mind, can just treat it as fun and a few nights out..

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SoleSource · 09/07/2012 17:39

This is such a mess in your head After four years single I am still at the 'what if it goes wrong, stage' I do not date. I'm not OK with me. I will dump a guy like yours without hesitation when I do feel OK about me. I reckon two years to go in therapy, sixteen months so far, completed :)

TheHappyHissy · 09/07/2012 17:47

OP, once you reach the mindset of TransitionMan, you will see this as a pathway to happyness not the last chance you have of it.

It makes a MASSIVE difference to how you date, how you appear, and it shows a strength, a detachment that does a good job of repelling idiots.

I'd not bother with the test, he wasn't even willing to do that until you threatened to end it. It's not worth it, you are not with this guy for a year for example, you have seen him a handful of times.

Your instinct is tripping, that is all you need to know. Trust your instincts, they are rarely wrong.

TheHappyHissy · 09/07/2012 17:48

happyness happiness Grin

TheHappyHissy · 09/07/2012 17:53

Solesource: if it goes wrong, you end it, or you move on. You will survive, you will recover and the next one you allow into your life will be better screened, .

When I dumped MrSoftee I realised that I had removed an abuser from my life, (the ExP) and a potential control freak from my life. I realised that I could police my own life.

Don't deny yourself a life out of fear. Go at the pace you are happy with, understand to begin with it will be strange to you, but in no time you will pick enough to make things work, you will learn a lot about yourself, you will grow.

I've been in Therapy since November. yes I know I am pushing myself hard, but it beats the life I had at the hands of ExP, or the life I had on my own existing. Solesource have a go at online dating, email a few people for a while, nothing more, if you feel like meeting someone, go for coffee.

You can always post here for advice if you need some back up.

SoleSource · 09/07/2012 18:17

My experiences were cold dating from guys online. Met straight female friends whom turned out to be fake, using, shallow, disrespectful cunts. I just cannot stand anymore hurt, pain or judgy people around me.

OP feel OK about you first :)

TheHappyHissy · 09/07/2012 19:47

jesus SS, that's terrible. Remember they are what THEY are, that's not a reflection of you, but I can totally understand how terribly upsetting that would be.

don't give up though, you'll get there!

SoleSource · 09/07/2012 19:58

I have given up on people in order to work on me. Gradually I am moving on :)

TheHappyHissy · 09/07/2012 20:37

I agree with the focus on you. I understand the reluctance to be with others, in time you will be able to interact and push your own boundaries a bit.

Well done for taking the time out to work on you! Smile