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is he being a dick or is it me??

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LittleMissMessup · 23/06/2012 23:23

DP of four years works away about 80% of the time, few weeks gone, maybe a week back, then gone again, very haphazard, he's missed birthdays, anniversaries etc..he totally loves the job, never even discussed taking it with me, he was offered it within his company (no pay rise with it) and took it. I'm full time mum of 3, part time freelance writer and spend most ofmy time feeling like a single mum struggling to make ends meet..
He's currently away, we've seen him about five weeks this year in odds and sods, no real quality time at home. He's just called saying how we can't wait to come home, realizes he's been away a lot this year etc and I tell him how DD 2 has started asking for him all the time (she's 2) and we can't wait to have him home next Friday. He then says oh I'm not coming home Friday, there's a big party Friday night. It's free booze, it'll be a laugh etc..and I was like what the actual fuck!! Then he says I hate him going out. I don't.. I hate that we once again come after his fucking social life.
I love him but i have gone through so much shit with him, EA's (yes, plural) not wanting to involve me in his social life, me not being able to challenge him without it being world war III..
I don't know, I'm tired, I've been organizing our imminent house move while he's been away, on top of looking after DC and trying to meet a deadline. This has just made me so sad, I feel it's so selfish of him and maybe it's the last straw..or maybe it's me being unreasonable?? And views ladies??

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LittleMissMessup · 24/06/2012 13:45

I'm not quite there yet, but I'm not far off..the party is just the last straw on an already heavily over burdened camels back..
If I go quiet for a bit it's just that I have so much to do re the move. I'll update tonight.
Thanks all x

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LittleMissMessup · 24/06/2012 13:50

Xales.. it's all signed for, no going back on that one, I get the keys tomoz.. I know he'd be devastated if I left, I threatened to leave after the texting crap with the girls at work and we did recover really well, it's just been these last couple of months when things have slid again. Maybe it's salvageable, I'm not sure, I'm starting to disconnect but I honestly, honestly don't want to. Not because I'm afraid of being alone, but because there are still glimpses of the an he was in there.

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clam · 24/06/2012 13:53

Even if he's not been cheating (although I'd be wondering how he "manages" for sex if he's away from you for so much of the time), he's nonetheless living a single man's life for 80% of the time. Leaving you a single mum to the same extent - with little or no say in it. You're not happy with that, which means you need to take action.

RichManPoorManBeggarmanThief · 24/06/2012 13:54

Tbh, even taking the possible infidelity out of the equation, I'd still dump him for taking a job where he works away 80% of the time without even discussing it with me when I had a baby and 2 other kids. Now, I know people have to work away sometimes- either it's just the line of work (Forces, rigs, merchant navy etc), and these days it's often sheer economic necessity, but it seems it was neither for him. He just decided to go part time on his family life without even talking to you about it.

I consider myself pretty laid back, but I can tell you that if DH came home tonight and said "Oh yeah, I got an internal transfer so I'll only be home every 2 weeks" I'd tell him to hit the road.

LittleMissMessup · 24/06/2012 14:00

Clam..porn of course, often when I call on a night he's about to settle down with a 'movie' ..I have no problem with that btw.
Rich.. it was just a case of hearing how 'cool the position was from people already doing it and he jumped at it. We had the whole you'll be away so much conversation and he assured me it wouldn't be often and he was right, last year he was home more than he was away. This year has been the opposite. He keeps saying we'll be fine, we'll survive..not if he carries on acting like I'm last on his list we won't.

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clam · 24/06/2012 14:06

Porn? Oh, he just sounds better and better.

VajeenaVaginaVajayjay · 24/06/2012 14:08

Thing is OP, he has given you reason not to trust him by his past behaviour. All we are saying is don't be too sure he isn't up to it again.

Also he doesn't seem to care about your feelings and your relationship. If he did he wouldn't be hanging up on you when you express your feelings, leaving you out of social occasions, letting you down, choosing to go to a party with his work mates when he's with them more than he is with you and dc's.

He is living a mostly a single life, just coming home when he feels like it.
You are so far down on his list of priorities is a wonder if your on that list at all.

What would he say if you asked him to change his job for the sake of your relationship and dc's?

I bet he wouldn't even consider it.

It's not easy to leave a relationship when you love someone but this is not the man you first fell in love with. You are clearly miserable and he doesn't really care. That speaks volumes IMO.

kickassangel · 24/06/2012 14:10

Are you sure he didn't get a pay rise with the job? Cos I wouldn't put it past him to say that but keep the extra cash

An he's going to the engagement party of a couple he barely knows and he got a pity invite for?

He's acting like a teenager and treating you like his mum. If you object you even get the sulky teen response.

BalloonSlayer · 24/06/2012 14:11

"thenightsky.. no chance of going to same hotel, it's a mystery tour basically so you don't know where you'll end up til you get there..plus 3 kids to consider and very little spare cash (if any!) just not an option."

A "mystery tour." Is that what he said?

Why would anyone need to have a "mystery tour" in this day and age. Sounds like a big fat lie to me, sorry.

AmberLeaf · 24/06/2012 14:16

He's a dick.

I bet the job sounded 'cool' he gets to live as a single man while you shoulder the responsibilities!

If he isn't cheating ill eat my hat tbh. His 'mate' gave him a condom? Is he 12? Come on OP! He's a liar!

His seemingly openess about his movements is a facade, its working too as despite it being glaringly obvious that he has plenty of oppourtunity to cheat it seems to have reassured you he isn't.

He's a pisstaker, he's cheating on you, he's accusing you of cheating (as someone else said that's a classic red flag of a cheat) and he leaves you to deal with all the boring humdrum stuff.

What sort of money is he on? He may pay your rent but he would also have to pay maintenance towards your daughter if you split.

Get rid-you won't notice the difference anyway- except you will be happier!

glastocat · 24/06/2012 14:26

Ffs don't marry this man!

Idreamof · 24/06/2012 14:34

No, LittleMiss, it's never just as easy as leave the bastard. Sad

It sounds like he is doing a pretty good job at checking up on you, making sure you are still ok to take some more shit, and being seen as such a good dad, (I mean look at all these phone calls, how normal and considerate): i don't think so, since he is not available physically or emotionally it looks more like a form of control than true concern.

But with him not being under your feet and in your house, you can analyse the situation for yourself, see where this is leading , draw your own conclusions and decide what you are going to do and how.

He has made his position clear: you at home with DCs and please don't rattle your cage, and him doing basically what he wants in a separate life.

There is not need to try and make him see this doesn't work for you and DCs.
It's no use to try and reason with him, (a concept that takes long to grasp and ages to accept).
He'll just do just what he wants, regardless of how it makes you and DCs feel.

Don't engage in sterile dicussions that leave you emotionally drained. Save your energy. Don't discuss with him your state of mind and what you might be thinking of doing.

Take your time to decide what you want to do, finalise and bombproof your next move. When you are ready and nothing he can say or do can move you, and only then, let him know.

He's throwing away a good life with you and DCs, and doing it knowingly, take a view on it. Too bad there is nothing YOU can say or do that can make him rethink his position.
Remember this when he'll start on the regrets, outrage (I was away working for you and DCs?), and convincing promises.

Sorry if too long.

LittleMissMessup · 24/06/2012 14:41

Balloon..as I already said up thread it actually is a mystery tour, I went previous three years, his company are big on rewarding their employees with gestures like this..
Idreamof.. your post is absolutely spot on..that's exactitly what he's like and how I feel..I'm taking on board so much good advice. I know I need to start disconnecting.

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BalloonSlayer · 24/06/2012 14:45

My apologies LittleMiss I didn't realise you knew that. I thought that was what he had told you and it sounded to me like the lamest line ever to put you off the scent.

LittleMissMessup · 24/06/2012 14:51

Oh and it definitely didn't come with a pay rise, I do all the applications for tax credits etc, I open all the mail for our bank accounts, credit cards etc so certainly no financial secrets.

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TheSpokenNerd · 24/06/2012 14:53

My DH worked away for a year against my will and when he did similar...ie not coming home on the day we expected and missing a friends wedding, I dumped him.

I HAD to. The DC had not seen him for months as he worked in Asia and they were so excited....so for their pride and mine I told him to fuck right off.

I stopped taking his calls and then he arrived back. It was hell on wheels and after 6 months apart and a lot of begging, he came home to stay and has another job.

We have been backk together now for almost three years and have made a lot of progress but I had a LOT of anger and it took a lot of talking before he understood what was wrong about what he did.

LittleMissMessup · 24/06/2012 14:53

No problem balloon, his company do some whack things! Team building and all that jazz..

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TheSpokenNerd · 24/06/2012 14:54

But I must add...my DH did pay all the expenses except what I had coming in also as a freelance writer (!) and that covered my clothes and days out etc...your partner needs to step up the financial stuff!

AnyFucker · 24/06/2012 14:55

THis man sounds like the epitomy of selfishness and self-entitlement

what on earth is a capable and intelligent woman like you doing with a tool like this ?

LittleMissMessup · 24/06/2012 14:56

TheSpokenNerd..I'm sorry, it's just so crap isn't it, feeling side lined like that, especially the DC.. if I mention them missing him he goes on about guilt trips, how he's working hard for us etc..I never said he wasn't working hard..but at what cost..and so unnecessary too, he's missed so much this year, not just the big things but the day to day just being there type stuff..

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clam · 24/06/2012 15:00

So, is he saying you cramped his style on those last 3 weekend shindigs then? If he just wants to get ... won't use his charming phrase... drunk and not spend time "doing stuff" with you?

It just sounds as if you're both in different places in life, and not just physically. He wants to get drunk and have a right laugh with his mates, sees living away as "cool" and gets impatient when you remind him of his responsibilities. He thinks he's kept you quiet with promising you a wedding - at this rate he'll be suggesting you don't turn up, as he wants to get hammered with his mates.

Doesn't sound to me as if you'll be any worse off if you split. You'll "officially" be a single mum again, but then you are anyway, to all intents and purposes. And as you say, you've managed before. And he won't see his dc any less than he appears to at the moment. And as for sex, well, he's got his porn!

clam · 24/06/2012 15:02

And DO NOT let him get away with the old "but I'm working hard for you and the kids" chestnut. He's working away for himself and because he enjoys it. He didn't even consult you on the change.
And anyway, this latest thing isn't about him working away as such, it's about him staying away longer than is necessary for a piss-up.

LittleMissMessup · 24/06/2012 15:10

AF.. you are ace :) thank you..
Clam.. he says although he enjoyed the previous years he wants this one to himself so he can have time to himself and get pissed..i pointed out that he has bloody loads of time to himself..

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SorryMyLollipop · 24/06/2012 15:10

What everyone else has said.

He is a dick.

clam · 24/06/2012 15:15

"he wants this one to himself so he can have time to himself and get pissed"

Kick him out and he can have all the time he wants to himself to get pissed.