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The Brave Babes Battle Bus - Starting the Summer Filled With Luscious Mocktails.

999 replies

Mouseface · 09/06/2012 22:59

Hello, I'm Mouse and I used to drink far too much. Too much vodka to be exact, then too much wine, then too much cider....... you can imagine how it went.

This Bus is full of people like me, and people like you actually. Sober people, drinkers, a few not surers, and those who are simply 'somewhere'.

The one thing that we have in common is that we can/do/did/will abuse alcohol.

Some for a number of years, some months, some for their entire adult (and before) lives.

The support here is for everyone. Those in AA, those who are taking medication to help, those going it alone, those with the support of others. We're all here for the same reason. Smile

Why not come and say hello? We are all so very different in our every day lives but we all have a common theme.....

And, for those who want to see where all of this began 2 years ago, HERE IS a link to all of the past Bus rides. Smile

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Fairenuff · 19/06/2012 22:46

Well done Joey. Alcohol would certainly not help a migraine that's for sure.

Well, good news, it looks like our bat is back. He/she flitted past the window a few times this evening, yay Smile

I've been really good on my diet this week but am feeling a wee bit peckish now so going to go to bed. Night all x

todayiwillnotdrink · 19/06/2012 23:41

Have had white to ''cekebrate'. Quite right about finding pennies mouse! . More bad news tonight about youngest dc. Am sad.

As well as muddled!

Top tip. Camomile tea frozen into ice cubes is nearly as good (and much cheaper) as Claris beauty flash stuff! Will report back on puffiness tomorrow. Sleep well babes.

LimitReached · 20/06/2012 07:59

Morning all, still nothing from community outreach team.

Have appointment for blood test this morning at 10.20.

Was very snappy/off with H last night, resulting in him becoming sulky with me. I feel my moods are getting worse not better right now Sad

faire we have a tree next to our house that seems to have a few bats nesting in it, it lovely to see them out swooping around at dusk time, they are amazing to watch aren't they!

today hope you and your youngest are ok!

todayiwillnotdrink · 20/06/2012 09:19

Will be ok but tough year ahead.

I know I need (want) to stop drinking. It is a crap coping mechanism. Need to go to dr anyway as this bout of pain is not letting up. Have decided that professional relationships should not prevent asking for help. So much going on. Marriage work children. I feel as though I am drowning. Using credit card for wine and cigs. Very bad idea.

Limit - can you call them to find out when you might get help?

SobaSoma · 20/06/2012 09:39

Morning all, off to GPs to tell her I want to get off my benzos and feeling very positive. Well done for not drinking last night Joey.

Limit give them a call and chase for appointment and Today great idea to go to the GP and get the ball rolling. Went to my recovery group again yesterday, such a great bunch of women and we're all having lunch next week. I haven't had a drink for one month and two days :).

Mouse is ill in bed, send her some hugs xx

LimitReached · 20/06/2012 09:46

((huge hugs for mouse)) hope you feel better soon XX

If I don't hear anything today I will call them first thing tomorrow I promise. I don't actually feel up to anything today at all which is awful as the weather outside is so beautiful Sad

Its going to be enough to go and get this blood test done to be honest.

Going to try and sit in the garden for a bit after and carry on reading my books.

today once I had actually said the immortal words to my GP "I need help to stop drinking" it really did feel like a weight had lifted ((hugs to you too)) X

obrigada · 20/06/2012 11:23

Sending good wishes to Mouse, hope you are feeling better real soon.

SAF, are you ok? Haven't seen you around for a couple of days.

MsGee · 20/06/2012 13:01

Hello, sorry I haven't been around this thread much. Firstly ((( ))) to poorly Mouse - hope you are feeling better soon

All ok here. Work is mental, DD not sleeping and I am in a haze of disorganisation and no motivation. I keep telling myself that drinking will not make it better.

I drank on friday. Nearly a bottle of wine. Amazed me how easy it was to slip into the old ways. So I chucked it out in the morning and we now have no wine in the house.

But you know what - I learnt something. I used to drink to forget who I was. I thought that DrunkGee was a sparkling, witter, shimmery kind of gal. She felt like the real me. The one who could let go, who could go a little wild. When she appeared on Friday night she didn't feel like me anymore. She felt fake and sad. I was happy to be me again - the sober me now feels like the real me.

Right, I must forage for food. WHY do I always forget to buy food - its not like needing to eat is a surprise each day ... GRRRRR.

NonAstemia · 20/06/2012 14:00

Hello Brave Babes! I know I haven't posted much lately, but I have been lurking and reading all your posts. I've backed off from posting because I'm pretty happy with the amount that I'm drinking now, but I am still drinking above the recommended weekly limits so I don't feel that I'm the best person to give advice to someone struggling with their drinking! Also, I've been much much less preoccupied with drinking lately, so it hasn't felt helpful to talk about drinking.

I feel like I've established the routine of not drinking at all on Mondays and Tuesdays and having a glass or two on Thursdays and Fridays (half a bottle max). The weekend nights I've still been drinking nearer a bottle, but I've been much more mindful about what I'm drinking, and I'm drinking less on those nights too. The changes have all been gradual so I hadn't really realised how much things have changed for me since joining the bus. I read through my posts from when I first joined and wow, how different do I feel now!

At the beginning of April I wrote

"I don't want to be the person trying to hide the fact that I can't remember what happened the night before.
I don't want to be the person who is hungover every day.
I don't want to be the person who is always irritable, and often short tempered with DD.
I don't want to be the person who lies awake for hours most nights in hot and cold sweats of toxic anxiety.
I don't want to be the person who gets so pissed when people come round for dinner that I can't remember how the evening ended, or the food we ate.
I don't want to be the person who spends the whole week unsuccessfully trying not to drink, or not to drink too much, then gets happily plastered every weekend night and spends the weekend days in a hungover lazy fog where I don't want to do anything except kill time until 'wine time'.

I don't want to be ruled by drink and drinking, basically. I want to be able to enjoy drinking sometimes, but not construct my life around it. I don't want my drinking to adversely affect DD, which at the moment I think it does."

I'm Shock to say it, but two months on, I'm no longer that person. We haven't had anyone round to dinner, so I haven't passed that test (and I drank too much last time we went to DMIL's), but I'm a lot more confident now that I can tackle social occasions without getting more drunk than I'd intended.

I think that for me, the drinking was a symptom rather than the cause, and that now I'm feeling better in myself I'm better able to resist the temptation to numb the bad stuff with wine. It's a negative vs positive cycle, though, isn't... Feel bad, have a drink to feel better, feel better for a short time, then feel even worse, have a drink to feel better... rinse and repeat. Or feel ok, resist temptation to have a drink/drink too much, feel ok the next day, even a bit better, so don't feel the need to have a drink, until the preoccupation starts to fade etc etc. I'm in a positive cycle at the moment, but I know it takes vigilance not to slip back into negative habits.

I was unsure whether to post because I know that controlled drinking doesn't work for a lot of people and I don't want to sort of 'set a bad example' or something (god that sounds really patronising! Blush) to someone who is arguing with the demon that says 'go on go on, one won't hurt'. But I think there are probably a lot of lurkers who don't want to stop drinking completely but just cut down and replace that negative cycle with a positive one, and that's where I feel I'm at right now so maybe that'll reassure someone that it is sometimes possible. Smile

I'm also less irritable overall (although premenstrual now...) now that I've stabilised on my current dose of ADs, which really does make a big difference to me. I'm more able to not react to DD's provocation petty annoyances. Again, that's a positive cycle because the calmer I am, the calmer she is, and the fewer 'incidents' there are so I'm less stressed and more able to deal with it calmly when she is rude or arsey or whatever.

I'm doing a first aid course both days of the weekend as I'm joining St. john's Ambulance as a volunteer, hoping to become a community first responder. I've also chosen to do an extra evening's training with them on Friday. Until now, there is no way I would have chosen to spend a Friday night doing anything other than eating and drinking - when I had a shift on Friday evenings I always felt very hard done by. Nor would I have chosen to do something over a weekend that would restrict my drinking (need to be on the ball the following day so couldn't drink much). So this is quite a big change for me. Yesterday and Monday I didn't think about drinking/not drinking at all - it simply didn't enter my head as I was too busy thinking about food! On Monday I started a low carb diet, planning not to drink until Friday and then just a glass or two of red each weekend night. I want to lose weight but also see if I can knock my sugar cravings on the head. I drink so much tea and am so often wandering into the kitchen looking for a mouthful of something sweet to pep me up - it's really not good. I'm sure that this contributes to the craving for white wine in late afternoon - i'm after the sugar and the pick-me-up.

Well, sorry for the epic post. Just thought I'd update. Hello all the new Babes; I've been reading your posts and rooting for you all! mouse hope you're feeling better. silver good to see you back and hope it hasn't been too awful dealing with all the condolences at work. I hope you can find some solace here on the bus.

swallowedAfly · 20/06/2012 14:19

hi just popping in and no chance of catching up - sorry - but just wanted to say hi Smile

just worked out it's 10weeks since i stopped drinking. i don't tend to think about how long anymore.

things are going well - getting lots done around the house with decorating and organising, slowly, slowly, wanting to be all sorted and organised come uni time in september. still going to aa, still processing my drinking and my sobriety and still learning more about myself. feeling much happier with the person i am, the way i think, act and feel. lots of change.

i haven't been posting mostly because i've been really busy and wanting to be in the real world more and mn less.

i will pop in and say hi from time to time - sorry to not be around - hope everyone is doing ok all i can offer is if you are an alcoholic life really, truly can be so much better if you are willing to deal with it.

aliasjoey · 20/06/2012 18:10

hello to everyone on the bus tonight. I hope you're okay mouse

I'm glad you're happy with how things are going mia I'd like to join you in controlled drinking some day, but think I need to abstain for a while.

For some reason I have been sleeping loads. I can only think its because I am now 'allowing' myself to nap. Before I used to force myself to stay awake with the promise of a drink later. Now I tell myself my body needs rest - I'm recovering from a 'disease' (alcohol!) My sleep pattern is all over the place though - my DH came home early and caught me snoozing in bed Blush

Fairenuff · 20/06/2012 20:38

Welcome to the roof-rack Mia Smile

Saf good to hear from you.

How is everyone else this evening? DS baked delicious brownies today and I only had the teensiest slither, just to be polite y'know Wink. It was delicious.

Mouse hope you're not bed-bound with pain Sad, feel better soon x

Isinde eeeeeek it's getting very close, hope you're not to frazzled with all the last minute preparations, hope you find some calmness and if we don't hear from you before, have a wonderful, memorable, very special day x

Mouseface · 20/06/2012 20:50

Evening, tis me, Mouse

This is how I look >>>> Envy due to either a) a bug or b) stress. I'm really upset at the moment due to the utter fuckwittery of one of Nemo's 'Associate Specialists' failing us on a monumentally massive scale.

Short story is that we requested a statement of special educational needs to be put in place for when he starts ft pre-school in September. Knowing that these things can take up to 6/7 months, we asked for this to happen last December!

I had a letter on Monday telling me that the process has just begun after the statement people have received a letter dated 11 May 2012 from Dr Fuckwit. So, that's over 5 months from when we requested action, (and we were told that they would sort it all out, including contacting all of his team after I gave her a comprehensive list), and now he won't have support in place for when he starts in September, well, he will, me.

I'm livid because all of his team have written/submitted their reports after I told them what was happening, I've spoken with them all and discussed the kind of support he needs only to find out that she (Dr FW) hadn't bothered until May.

Anyway, I think that this illness is stress related given the Baptism, the number of visitors we've had of late, mini drama's with DD, and this..... little things build up don't they?

Well done on 10 weeks Saffy Smile I bet on the whole you feel good. xx

Mia - wow! What a transformation! You have really, really turned a corner and in the right direction. Really refreshing to see. xx

Soma - how was the docs? Did I miss that post? I'm kinda rubbish at keeping up........

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Mouseface · 20/06/2012 21:02

Posted too soon, I'm back off to my sick bed.... I can't take my pain meds because I'm vomiting still so can't work out what I've absorbed or not.....

Luckily, DH is on hand to help with the night shifts, I'm going to ask about more support for me at home, some sort of hoist/rail to help me get up and turn in bed.

It's getting harder and harder to move in bed, to turn and even stop the pain Sad

It's time to get ME some help so that I can keep on helping Nemo.

Night night Babes xx

PS - IsinDe - it must be soon? Your big day? Are you okay sweets? xx

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aliasjoey · 20/06/2012 21:03

evening, tis you, mouse you sound very stressed - not surprising. If theres one thing bound to get the blood boiling its all that bureacracy and red-tape - especially if its the NHS. I have no advice, but lots of sympathy.

You don't have to worry about keeping up with us lot when you've got your own stuff to think about. We'll be fine, someone's driving the bus (not sure who - is it silver? or did she hand over the keys to faire? anyway, I'm pretty sure somebody is driving - maybe they'll let me have a go one day Smile)

qo · 20/06/2012 21:11

Evening all!

Mouse, my DS's statement was fast-tracked in reception on the teachers recommendation.
can barely remember the details as he is now a strapping 20 year old - it was a long time ago!! But from what I can remember there are 5 stages of the statementing process and they jumped him from stage 1 to stage 5.

I'm almost 100% positive that the same will happen for nemo once he starts and he will have the help required a lot sooner than it may seem now. Have you checked out the IPSEA website, lots of helpful resources on there :)

I have my first counselling session in the morning, a 30 minute telephone appointment which I actually cannot wait for.

It's general counselling, not alcohol related - which isn't a problem for me at the moment as after the blip I had, I'm back to thinking "why, why? would I ever want to do that to myself again"

also keeping tight hold of something JWN said on the last thread - namely "at least I wont be waking up tomorrow contemplating suicide"

It's just holding no appeal to me whatsoever at the moment.

Hope everyone is happy and well tonight :)

dementedma · 20/06/2012 22:21

mouse try and rest when you can. sending pain free vibes.
indie what's happening? share your plans - we need to know . errm. I havn't had my invitation yet. That's just an oversight yes?
silver good to see you back in the driving seat. Take us to indie's wedding and drive carefully so that you don't jolt mouse

jesuswhatnext · 20/06/2012 22:25

evening - sorry to be a quick 'in and out' - had fantastic weekend, ball was wonderful, then my adored df suffered heart attack on sunday morning, he is out of the woods now but it has been a bit of week.

havent caught up with the thread so i can only say 'keep on keeping on'! Smile just knowing i have such wonderful friends here has kept me on the straight and narrow this week! Smile

love to all!!

L XXX

SobaSoma · 20/06/2012 22:47

Gosh busy on here, sorry not to name-check everyone. Good to know your're in a happy place Mia and have come to an acceptance and understanding of your drinking. I feel great today, saw GP about coming off diazepam, she's given me a tapering schedule and a huge pat on the back for having achieved so much. Over a month without a drink and no real cravings - I have to pinch myself sometimes to know that it's real.

I've realised that nearly all my adult life I've wanted my mind to be altered in some way, to be removed from reality, in a state of euphoria or comfortable numbness all on my own or just wanting to party till I drop. I'm only now beginning to appreciate the beauty of facing life without any sort of interference with my brain chemistry (apart from my SSRIs of course, but I don't want to be on them for ever). Without booze or drugs there's so much more to appreciate, so much more beauty to notice around you and so much more to know about how people really tick and more to give them.

I simply can't let myself down again, get someway towards dealing with my dependency on booze only to slip back. Can I REALLY do it this time? I can only say for now I feel positive and the best thing is being able to live without the guilt and self-loathing and yukky yukky hangovers! And with the dog coming on Saturday, my life can change even more for the better. It's never too late girls, I'm mid 50s and my boing has returned and am in good shape. I miss having a man in my life, do you think I should consider dating again - have been single now for a year and am desperate for some you know what! Sleep tight babes xx

aliasjoey · 21/06/2012 10:36

wow soma you sounded wonderfully positive last night! That's so excellent to have such a clear head and see all the good stuff. Smile and I'm so excited about Alfie coming on Saturday, btw how old is he?

My husband had a g&t last night (there was gin in the house?! I didn't know that - interesting that I never bothered to try and find it...) with a lemon and lime ice lolly dipped into it. I couldn't decide if that was a damn fine idea, or a waste of good gin. Either way, I resisted and left him to it Grin

NonAstemia · 21/06/2012 10:58
Grin

JWN so sorry to hear about your dad. Wishing him a speedy and complete recovery.

Isinde wishing you all the best for the big day!

Joey sleep is very healing - do as much of it as you can!

Soma fab to hear you sounding so positive and yes I think you should consider dating! You're a beautiful, vibrant, funny woman so get out there girl! I met DP on Guardian Soulmates and had a few dates with another guy who became a friend too. I'd really recommend it.
I've realised that nearly all my adult life I've wanted my mind to be altered in some way, to be removed from reality, in a state of euphoria or comfortable numbness all on my own or just wanting to party till I drop.
This absolutely applies to me too! I've always been looking to alter how I feel, because I could never cope with those feelings. I think I'll always need to be on ADs, because honestly I think there's a fundamental imbalance with me; I can be so low and hopeless even when everything is going really well and there's nothing to be depressed about. But having stabilised on a fairly low dose of ADs and not interfering with them by drinking to excess, I feel better now than I have done in a long time. More in control of myself and my feelings, better able to deal with my inherent irritability, more positive and proactive. Drinking really wasn't helping!

I've lost 4lbs in 3 days, btw, eating copious amounts of cheese, mayonnaise, meat, fish, veg and lashings of butter and cream! No cravings for wine at all, even when I saw DP's empty wine glass when I got back last night at 9.30pm, only a few pangs for sweet stuff. Shock Shock

Have good days everyone xxx

obrigada · 21/06/2012 11:04

Mia, 4lbs in 3 days, must give low carb a go so:) All tips greatly appreciated Grin

aliasjoey · 21/06/2012 11:52

mia you'll need more than an umbrella up there! Can you row?!

Well done on the dieting, I'm hoping the weight will fall off naturally now I don't have the midnight munchies.

Ummm, I think I may see daylight at the end of the tunnel... don't want to get my hopes up, but for the first time since I got on the bus I'm feeling more hopeful and positive. It's been about 4 weeks since I caught the bus, and 10 days since my last drink. Smile

obrigada · 21/06/2012 11:58

That's great Joey, well done on 10 days no alcohol. You sound in a good place at the minute, still dark in my tunnel but hopefully soon I will start to see a light at the end of it:)

dementedma · 21/06/2012 13:07

Seeing as we are all going to indie's wedding tomorrow, we had better make some hats!

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