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Rubbish sex life...

157 replies

agedgoth · 08/06/2012 18:35

My husband and I have been together for sixteen years, since I was twenty. He is ten years older than me. I've posted about our relationship before, under a different name, as I haven't been entirely happy for some time. In fact, most people, including my wonderful RL friends said 'leave the bastard' but we all know it's not always that simple and for several, very complicated, reasons including protracted periods of fertility treatment, I'm still here and trying to make a go of it.

However...and this will sound immeasurably shallow...I am feeling very frustrated in the bedroom.

My husband rejects me sexually 95% of the time - and has done for some time. I don't put any pressure on him as I know that will have the opposite effect to what we'd want, but I have tried everything to get him to want me: weekends away, cosy nights in, cooking his favourite meals, dressing up outfits (excrutiating), sexy undies, lost two stone in weight, cuddling up to him in bed, not cuddling up/suggesting anything for weeks and I get....nothing.

When he does get in the mood, he will roll on top of me, go at it a couple of minutes, need a break and either go soft or come very quickly. Whatever, it is shit for me. There's no other way of saying it. He won't countenance the idea of sex other than in the missionary position, on a weekend morning (but only every couple of months or so), with the TV on in the background. We 'had sex' last weekend (before that, March) with him lying heavily on top of me and he went soft and I felt so, so empty, unwanted and tearful.

There is no me on top or him behind. No oral for me or for him. Not even a bit of leg stroking or fantasies or anything. He doesn't believe in sex toys or anything like that, does not want to talk about it, does not believe in counselling. He seems happy with his lot.

I hope I'm not sounding too selfish, but honestly, I am beyond frustrated and feel like I could be tempted elsewhere. I don't find him as attractive as I used to (eg: he's put on 5 stone and keeps bursting into the loo for a poo when I'm in the shower - yuk), but I appreciate we all change physically as we get older and god knows, I think sex is so important in a marriage, otherwise what are we, just housemates that have barely anything to say to each other? I feel this is symptomatic of the rest of our relationship and I just feel I have invested too much simply to leave, but quite frankly, it's hard to say what I am getting back. I feel cross.

I don't know what to do. Apart from 'leave the bastard,' which is where my every waking thought keeps taking me, what can I do? Am I missing anything obvious or have I tried everything?

I have to go out for a few hours, but will check back as soon as I can and thanks if you've managed to read this epic tale of sexual woe!

OP posts:
PooPooInMyToes · 10/06/2012 17:58

When they tell you you'll get no better they are always wrong!

Back2Two · 10/06/2012 18:09

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AnyFucker · 10/06/2012 18:15

I was once told I would "get no better". I had forgotten that too.

I could, and I did

he didn't (not surprisingly)

PooPooInMyToes · 10/06/2012 18:17

Think i was told that too, hahahahahahahaha

lotsofcheese · 10/06/2012 18:42

My exH at least acknowledged "I'll never get someone as good as you again" Yep, too damn right! You had your chance & you blew it! Grin

dondon33 · 10/06/2012 19:33

Yup I'm another that was told I'd get no better, in fact was told I'd get no one ever :) the cock actually made me believe that and that the "problem" was mine.
I did, when I was ready and you can too OP. Not ALL men are selfish, pigheaded, disrespectful arseholes. thank the lord above

Spookey80 · 10/06/2012 19:56

You must feel so down, I really feel for you op. You have every right to a good sex life. It is an important part of a healthy, loving and happy relationship. It wasn't until I was 25, and met my now dh that I realised what this meant. He understood and although it took time, we now have a really good sex life.
Please think about getting out, you deserve better.

Loveisthemessage · 10/06/2012 21:09

I think he has destroyed your confidence but really he is a coward so pick yourself up, dust yourself down and do whatever it takes to boost yourself: exercise, counselling, going out, staying over with friends, sleeping in the spare room, working out how you can be independent to him and saying NO to his demands and shite behaviour. The more you stand up to him, the stronger you will become.

TDada · 10/06/2012 23:35

please get a handyman to put a bolt on the bathroom door so that you can lock the man out of the bathroom when you are showering and preserve his and your dignity Smile....doesn't deal with the underlying problem re:his insensitivity and low energy level. I do think that he needs to work out.

TiggyD · 11/06/2012 09:11

I'm tempted to change my normal "Leave the bastard" to "Stab the bastard", but as that would probably be against the talk guidelines, I won't.

Nobody is perfect: Even Brad Pitt likes unpleasant facial hair, so you're unlikely to find somebody who's 100% ideal for you, but I think you could absolutely positively guarantee to find somebody better than what you have now.

TDada · 12/06/2012 23:09

Bad/No sex is one thing and might be medically related but the bathroom habit is taking the piss?

Dropdeadfred · 12/06/2012 23:13

I really hope you understand that he is lying when he says you would get no better.
Personally though, I would rather be alone than be with anyone as selfish and loathsome as your dh sounds

NicNocJnr · 13/06/2012 04:20

Agedgoth - my heart bleeds for you reading this thread.
It's clear his sexual behaviour is just a follow through of the contempt he holds you in.

Taking out the bins - whoo give that man a fucking medal. Litter tray? Mine gott, dance naked flapping around the bunting. And the floor? Is there anything left to give? My word, name a fucking planet after him. He is a horrible, nasty little man - trust in my experience and judgement of horrible, nasty little men. Abuse makes you feel how you feel. It's ok to admit you aren't ready to storm the trenches and kick him out with the rest of the rubbish but gathering courage and feeling stronger within yourself won't happen without the scales truely falling from your eyes and honest assesment of your situation. Without observing your actions 'ok, I feel I'm in the wrong, I feel useless- what does it look like from the outside? No, my reaction is normal, he is wrong' (that kind of thing just not as crap as I've written it!) then wavering and girding of loins becomes a protracted agony that merely binds you tighter to the situation - with just enough awareness to know how much you're suffering.

Stop minimising his behaviour. Stop minimising your importance - you do deserve to be adored, loved, cherished and respected, you are worth that and no one can tell you different.
You do know you can't fix him? You do know in your heart he doesn't think enough of you to change his selfish ways? Well, except for long enough to get you back under the thumb anyway.

When he says you won't get anyone better see that for what it is. Really think out of the both of you who would come off worse? You are a kind, warm and funny woman - I'm sure you will ooze attractiveness once free, joy makes you look amazing btw! He will always be a fat, impotent, middle aged, abusive man...if you don't use it you can lose it, it sounds to me that with his personality no bedroom action will not keep him any of these imaginary flocks of women. He's a charmless nerk at best and he can only keep the mask from slipping for so long.
One is advised not to disparrage the man to his abused spouse as she will be compelled to come to his defence thus strengthening her bond to him - are you mentally drawing up a list now to tell my why I'm wrong?

ThatVikRinA22 · 13/06/2012 15:03

are you still there OP? wondered how you were doing?

ElephantsAndMiasmas · 13/06/2012 16:38

How are you doing OP?

agedgoth · 13/06/2012 22:14

Hello All. Thanks for asking after me. I'm doing OK, seeing DH in a different light these few days. He's been quite snappy, nasty tone of voice kind of thing but then accuses me of speaking to him like shit!! It's like I'm looking at us from the outside.

All the advice on here and the links that have been posted have really resonated with me and I've been doing lots of thinking. I've a weekend planned with my mum, so am looking forward to that time apart.

I think what I'm feeling is a mixture of resignation, disappointment (in him) and clarity.

And you know what? The past couple of days I've had loads of compliments (weird) so some of this 'seeing the light' stuff must be showing!!

OP posts:
Dropdeadfred · 13/06/2012 22:17

So what are you going to do OP?

ThisAintKansas · 13/06/2012 22:21

How sad, OP. He sounds cold, unconcerned with your feelings and deeply sexually and emotionally inadequate.

I would suggest couples counselling and sex therapy as a couple as a very last resort. Otherwise, what else can you do but end this relationship, if you can call it that? It sounds so unhappy and unfulfilling for you.

agedgoth · 13/06/2012 22:40

I am unhappy. For ages I've believed this was because I'm a bit mad or entitled, but I'm coming to terms with the fact that this may not be the case.

In terms of action plan, well, I'm looking at practicalities (finances etc) and gathering strength. My confidence and self esteem are at rock bottom, but I'm feeling stronger day by day. It probably doesn't sound much, but these are big steps for me right now.

All I know is that this hasn't been right for a long time and realistically, it never will be. We're too different nowadays.

OP posts:
Loveisthemessage · 13/06/2012 23:08

We all deserve to be happy. Hope you manage to build your confidence to do whatever you need to do.

ThatVikRinA22 · 14/06/2012 13:42

you are entitled - at least to a happy fulfilling relationship, and thats not mad, its normal.

i think you have just become so acclimatised to an unhappy situation that you have adjusted and learned to live with it.

Enjoy your weekend away, and look at what life could be like - no wonder your confidence and self esteem are low when you have been living with someone who gives you nothing and expects everything in return.

you could be happy, and you could be happy without him. Keep taking those small steps - after all, every journey begins with a single step! and it sounds as though your journey is just beginning. keep going.

im willing you on. (and get a rabbit....not the fluffy kind! Wink)

dondon33 · 21/06/2012 16:30

Just catching up Aged- It's good and a huge step forward that you see his behaviour from a different angle, please continue to build your confidence hun, it will help you immensely.

Also great to gather all info regarding finances etc... for when the day comes that you are ready to leave/kick his fat ass out, believe me it WILL come.

As for the compliments...WooHoo :) please please NEVER again listen to his bullshit about not finding anyone else/no one will want you or any other rubbish.

TDada · 02/07/2012 21:37

how are you OP?

Diggs · 02/07/2012 22:08

I have noticed over time that there is a link between abusive men and the shitting thing . I beleive it is done deliberateley to disgust and humiliate the partner . They often also end up bursting in on children and shitting in front of them as well .

Its something ive experienced personally and its absoluteley not fucking normal .

fifi1984 · 10/08/2012 15:44

I had such a terrible sex life after having my four children my husband was not interetsed in me and when he was he had problems keeping an erection and sometimes couldnt even reach an erection in the first place, this put a huge strain on our marriage. He then purchased viagra from a online pharmacy as he was too stubbon and proud to visit our local doctor.
we have found this works very well and our sex life is better than ever Blush

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