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Rubbish sex life...

157 replies

agedgoth · 08/06/2012 18:35

My husband and I have been together for sixteen years, since I was twenty. He is ten years older than me. I've posted about our relationship before, under a different name, as I haven't been entirely happy for some time. In fact, most people, including my wonderful RL friends said 'leave the bastard' but we all know it's not always that simple and for several, very complicated, reasons including protracted periods of fertility treatment, I'm still here and trying to make a go of it.

However...and this will sound immeasurably shallow...I am feeling very frustrated in the bedroom.

My husband rejects me sexually 95% of the time - and has done for some time. I don't put any pressure on him as I know that will have the opposite effect to what we'd want, but I have tried everything to get him to want me: weekends away, cosy nights in, cooking his favourite meals, dressing up outfits (excrutiating), sexy undies, lost two stone in weight, cuddling up to him in bed, not cuddling up/suggesting anything for weeks and I get....nothing.

When he does get in the mood, he will roll on top of me, go at it a couple of minutes, need a break and either go soft or come very quickly. Whatever, it is shit for me. There's no other way of saying it. He won't countenance the idea of sex other than in the missionary position, on a weekend morning (but only every couple of months or so), with the TV on in the background. We 'had sex' last weekend (before that, March) with him lying heavily on top of me and he went soft and I felt so, so empty, unwanted and tearful.

There is no me on top or him behind. No oral for me or for him. Not even a bit of leg stroking or fantasies or anything. He doesn't believe in sex toys or anything like that, does not want to talk about it, does not believe in counselling. He seems happy with his lot.

I hope I'm not sounding too selfish, but honestly, I am beyond frustrated and feel like I could be tempted elsewhere. I don't find him as attractive as I used to (eg: he's put on 5 stone and keeps bursting into the loo for a poo when I'm in the shower - yuk), but I appreciate we all change physically as we get older and god knows, I think sex is so important in a marriage, otherwise what are we, just housemates that have barely anything to say to each other? I feel this is symptomatic of the rest of our relationship and I just feel I have invested too much simply to leave, but quite frankly, it's hard to say what I am getting back. I feel cross.

I don't know what to do. Apart from 'leave the bastard,' which is where my every waking thought keeps taking me, what can I do? Am I missing anything obvious or have I tried everything?

I have to go out for a few hours, but will check back as soon as I can and thanks if you've managed to read this epic tale of sexual woe!

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CarnivorousPanda · 08/06/2012 20:23

Agree with AF, this situation won't change and the years will roll by...........

ErikNorseman · 08/06/2012 20:48

I wouldn't tolerate this. You are not wrong or selfish to want an active and fun sex life. I'm not sure what the solution is but I want to reassure you there is nothing wrong with the way you feel.

crazyhead · 08/06/2012 20:52

I know it FEELS complicated OP, but if you leave him, I'd be genuinely shocked to find that you were looking back to feel anything but relief in a couple of years time. I'm sorry, these things totally erode one's confidence.

flatbellyfella · 08/06/2012 21:49

No way should you accept this treatment from your partner, he obviously has no respect or regard for your feelings & well being.
You can't be expected to go through life tied to this horrible man. As others have said you really do need to get out or away from him,sooner rather than later.

ImperialBlether · 08/06/2012 22:19

Lovechoc, that may suit you but it wouldn't suit many, many women.

OP, I think he clearly has no respect for you. He doesn't give a damn whether you have any kind of sex life. You're not going to get pregnant like that - god, if you did you'd be stuck with him forever - please, please don't put up with that.

You were twenty when you met. That is so young. Do you really think a mature woman would put up with him?

Leave him now whilst you're still young enough to meet someone else and have treatment if you need to.

Horsemad · 08/06/2012 22:39

Ugh, I once had a relationship with a man who did the crapping whilst I was in the shower thing and it just put me off sex with him, full stop!

It was a shame, 'cause the sex was really good (when we got round to having it) but him barging in the bathroom for a crap was a real turn off.

Isn't that a respect thing??

OP, GET RID!

pinkbluepink · 08/06/2012 23:25

OP you deserve better than this. He clearly has no respect or love for you. Be brave and make a move towards a better life for yourself.

agedgoth · 08/06/2012 23:39

OK. Back in now and have just read through all your replies. I'm grateful for each and every one as it's good to see that my RL mates aren't just saying what they think I want to hear, IFYSWIM.

To answer some of your questions:

Was it always like this? No, but in the very early days we'd only see each other every couple of weeks, so it felt more exciting. It's never been swinging from the chandeliers stuff, but in the past five to six years (maybe more tbh) it's been pretty mediocre. He's always been a missionary and that's it kind of guy.
Fertility problem? With me. I had premature ovarian failure.
What does he say to how I feel? He shrugs his shoulders, stays silent or accuses me of treating him like a performing monkey. How I feel actually seems neither here nor there.
Is he depressed? No, he's the life and soul of the party. Always looks on the bright side of life and dismisses anything else as weak. He does not believe in counselling, he says it's for the feeble minded.
And the shitting in front of me? I'm afraid that kills me stone dead. Appreciate thst's not the same for all, but it's not OK with me.

I guess one of the worst things is feeling like a total minger due to the rejection, although he tells me thinks I'm gorgeous, sometimes squeezes my bum etc. it's just not the same as being kissed and physically made love to.

I can't go on like this, but don't want to fail at my marriage either. Whoever pointed out low self esteem had it spot on, but it's hard to see yourself as anything other than worthless than when your own husband rejects you.

Thanks again for all your replies, it means a lot and confirms what my head and my RL friends have been screaming at me.

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fairyfriend · 08/06/2012 23:51

Reading that has made me so sad. I have been where you are, and I can promise you you'll feel nothing but relief when you're out of the relationship.
This man is eroding your self esteem, bit by bit. He clearly has his own issues and I sympathise with him but by refusing to do anything to tackle them he is showing a huge amount of disrespect for your needs.
You are afraid to 'fail at your marriage'? I don't mean to be harsh but do you really consider the current situation successful?

agedgoth · 09/06/2012 00:09

No, I suppose not Fairy
He's a good man, overall. I've been with him for so long, the alternative is terrifying. I sometimes wonder if the grass is really greener, or if I should expect sex to tail off after so long. He's happy and smiley on the sofa at the moment and I look at him and wonder how I can be thinking so selfishly, when he's quite content. Sad. I don't want to hurt him, I do care for him deeply and he says he loves me too...

Am off to bed, but thanks again for all the advice.

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AnyFucker · 09/06/2012 00:14

why, why, why are you still so keen to please him ?

he's grinning like a fucking cheshire cat on that sofa

'course he is

he's happy with how things are...wifey is made to feel like shit, he feels great

why do women feel so bad about simply ejecting men like this from their lives ?

I just don't understand it, I never will

DonInKillerHeels · 09/06/2012 00:30

Oh lord, your relationship sounds ghastly.

If you really do want to try sticking it out, you HAVE to get counselling, because he isn't currently listening to you. Either that or you have to talk about an open marriage.

But it does sound like you are really quite incompatible in the bedroom department (let alone shitting in front of you - double yuk!) and that's a relationship killer.

I think it's probably over, mainly because he has never been particularly interested in sex, or in pleasing you. My XH was the same. Only you can know if this is an absolute deal breaker. It was for me.

fairyfriend · 09/06/2012 00:56

I felt the same as you. When I split with my exp I told myself that it was normal for the intimacy to tail off after the 8 years we'd been together. For a long relationship to go a bit stale. To become a little bored of each other. To become resentful.
Well guess what? I've been with my current DH now for the same amount of time, and the sex is great! Wish it was more often, but we are shattered with work and kids, but the couple of times a week we manage it, it's fab! We argue like any couple but we respect each other. We like our time apart with friends etc, but we enjoy each other's company.
I'm really not saying any of this to be smug, please don't think that I think I have the perfect relationship. No-one does. But relationships should be fulfilling, they are supposed to make you happy. You are getting very little out of this relationship.

There is a wonderful life out there. Please, please go and get it.

itchywitch · 09/06/2012 06:12

Leave him. You only have one life so why waste it with someone who isn't just less then perfect, but who make you totally unhappy?

ToryLovell · 09/06/2012 06:27

It would be ultimatum time for me. If he's not wiling to change and try counselling then yep leave the bastard

flatbellyfella · 09/06/2012 08:59

You say that you don't want to fail in your marage,It's him that's failed, Not you. And yes the grass can be greener out there, it can be lush green pastures out there waiting for you to discover,it's not easy to find I will admit, I myself, have been without love for 15 years or more, but I keep my chin up in hope.

Loveisthemessage · 09/06/2012 09:16

"...wonder how I can be thinking so selfishly, when he's quite content"

  • yes he is quite content because he's happy with the way things are and doesn't want to change. But you're clearly not so I think you need to make the changes, even if it means you go to counselling on your own to get the tools to deal with him. He doesn't have any respect for you. Your r-ship sounds like it has stagnated and he is not prepared to put in the work to improve it. Your sexual and emotional needs are not being met in any way. I would get out while you can before you bring children into the equation. Otherwise you will feel completely trapped and end up resenting (if not hating) him. You need to be brave and make a decision. There are too many miserable people stuck in bad r-ships normalising the abnormal.
MardyArsedMidlander · 09/06/2012 09:16

Why would ending the relationship be so hard? You're not having sex now anyway (not what I would call sex...) and at least you could have a shower in peace Sad

stuffitunderthebed · 09/06/2012 09:26

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doggiemumma · 09/06/2012 09:41

The shitting wouldnt be an issue for me, both dp and i "go" if the other is in the bath, neither of our bodies are very good at waiting and there is no second toilet so i think it would be unfair to make someone wait. If it were that important id guess we would have to get out of the bath.

The issue is the sex life and disregard - id get rid of him, hes useless

agedgoth · 09/06/2012 10:03

Oh dear. I stay because we have so much history; we know each other inside out; we bumble along quite companionably and still sometimes have fun together. It's not all doom and gloom, y'know?

I'm also so filled with self doubt. I question my sanity and my judgement. I don't really trust my own feelings and wonder if I am being unduly negative.

This morning for example, he's brought me a cup of tea in bed and told me loves me, with a big kiss on the lips, which was nice. No sex though!!

I have holidayed away from him before and had a great time on my own, so I know I can do it. I was having too much fun to miss him at all, which is awful isn't it, especially when he says how much he missed me.

I like the idea of counselling on my own. I'd just have to make sure he didn't find out or he'd take the piss mercilessly

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doggiemumma · 09/06/2012 10:12

The tea in bed and kiss was lovely, the fact you think he would take the piss out of you going for counselling is tragic

lotsofcheese · 09/06/2012 10:15

You don't need to tell him anything!

And if that is his reaction, to his wife potentially leaving him - I think you know the answer then!

When you meet someone young & have been with them your entire adult life, it can be a terrifying prospect to be on your own.

Having been there, and left ex-H, it is probably the best thing I ever did.

Life is not a dress rehearsal

JamieandTheOlympicTorch · 09/06/2012 10:19

"how I feels seems neither here nor there"

Oh dear. He knows he can do enough to keep you reasonably content, most of the time, so he doesn't have to face facts.

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