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Rubbish sex life...

157 replies

agedgoth · 08/06/2012 18:35

My husband and I have been together for sixteen years, since I was twenty. He is ten years older than me. I've posted about our relationship before, under a different name, as I haven't been entirely happy for some time. In fact, most people, including my wonderful RL friends said 'leave the bastard' but we all know it's not always that simple and for several, very complicated, reasons including protracted periods of fertility treatment, I'm still here and trying to make a go of it.

However...and this will sound immeasurably shallow...I am feeling very frustrated in the bedroom.

My husband rejects me sexually 95% of the time - and has done for some time. I don't put any pressure on him as I know that will have the opposite effect to what we'd want, but I have tried everything to get him to want me: weekends away, cosy nights in, cooking his favourite meals, dressing up outfits (excrutiating), sexy undies, lost two stone in weight, cuddling up to him in bed, not cuddling up/suggesting anything for weeks and I get....nothing.

When he does get in the mood, he will roll on top of me, go at it a couple of minutes, need a break and either go soft or come very quickly. Whatever, it is shit for me. There's no other way of saying it. He won't countenance the idea of sex other than in the missionary position, on a weekend morning (but only every couple of months or so), with the TV on in the background. We 'had sex' last weekend (before that, March) with him lying heavily on top of me and he went soft and I felt so, so empty, unwanted and tearful.

There is no me on top or him behind. No oral for me or for him. Not even a bit of leg stroking or fantasies or anything. He doesn't believe in sex toys or anything like that, does not want to talk about it, does not believe in counselling. He seems happy with his lot.

I hope I'm not sounding too selfish, but honestly, I am beyond frustrated and feel like I could be tempted elsewhere. I don't find him as attractive as I used to (eg: he's put on 5 stone and keeps bursting into the loo for a poo when I'm in the shower - yuk), but I appreciate we all change physically as we get older and god knows, I think sex is so important in a marriage, otherwise what are we, just housemates that have barely anything to say to each other? I feel this is symptomatic of the rest of our relationship and I just feel I have invested too much simply to leave, but quite frankly, it's hard to say what I am getting back. I feel cross.

I don't know what to do. Apart from 'leave the bastard,' which is where my every waking thought keeps taking me, what can I do? Am I missing anything obvious or have I tried everything?

I have to go out for a few hours, but will check back as soon as I can and thanks if you've managed to read this epic tale of sexual woe!

OP posts:
carernotasaint · 10/06/2012 00:38

OP im in a similar situ to you. I am 39 (this week) and DH is 62. There has been nothing physical between us for 16 years.
For the first ten years he didnt want to. For the past six years hes been disabled with heart problems so he cant.

I lost ten stone in 2002 and had a LT affair between 2003 and early 2008. I dont feel anything sexual for him any more . We get along more like friends/flatmates. After my affair ended in 2008 i comfort ate and put 4 stone of what id lost back on. But since last summer ive lost almost 2 stone. (ive been seriously dieting since the end of Feb and have lost 1 stone 9 pounds since then) I fantasise a lot about certain actors, (its safe i suppose) but i feel so lonely. Dh and i have been together for 20 years, we met when i was 19 and he was 42.

carernotasaint · 10/06/2012 00:47

OP i am so sorry for what hes putting you through. And to laugh at you like that is disrespectful and fucking cruel. You deserve so much better than this. x

ThatVikRinA22 · 10/06/2012 00:53

i think you need to make him realise how seriously you are taking this OP, and i think, the only way to do that, is to leave, or ask him to.

a long time ago, my DH and i went through a really horrendous rocky patch.
he wouldnt listen to me and i ended up more or less seeing someone else, not because i liked them particularly, but because they made me feel like i mattered.

it was only when i put a deposit on a flat, and told DH that i was leaving in a few days that he really sat up and took some notice.

then he pulled out all the stops. he fought for our marriage when i had just about given up, having had the same old same old conversations for years.

if i were you, i would make some concrete plans on how to leave your DH and then stick the ball firmly in his court.
but be prepared to go through with leaving - if he wont fight for your marraige then there is a whole world out there for you.

ladymariner · 10/06/2012 01:25

The fact that he laughed at you would be the deal breaker for me......you deserve so much better than this, Goth, and I hope you find it xx

Rachaelboo · 10/06/2012 03:45

Grose Grose Grose. Having a poo whilst your in the shower. Are you joking? Disgusting then getting out and having to sniff it. Yuk. I wouldnt be wanting sex then.

HansieMom · 10/06/2012 04:56

You need to get a lock on that bathroom door and use it. Also just tell him you don't want him lying on top of you. He can put some effort in and hold his fat self up.

pumpkinsweetie · 10/06/2012 05:19

He sounds positively awful......he doesn't want to change and he has as much said so.
You have tried to talk to him and all he did was laugh at you & carry on watching the football.......SadAngry
He is laughing at you honey, you deserve better, a man that will love, listen and respect you aswell as making you feel 'wanted'.
Even if this was a medical problem, he is not wanting to seek help for it and he continues with the mundane routine of flattening you, which cannot be at all pleasurable.
Don't cook his dinner, do not do a thing for the selfish bastard whilst he continues to disrespect you, either he gets HELP now or, as others have said leave the bastard.
You are 36, don't be stuck in this situation any longer as you could be stuck in it for many more unhappy years to come.
A baby will not solve your problems, a new baby would magnify them.

lovechoc · 10/06/2012 10:25

doggiemumma glad I am not the only one! Grin

lovechoc · 10/06/2012 10:26

Rachaelboo if there's a window in the bathroom then it is possible to open it to let the smell out! I bet all this fuss wasn't made in Roman times...

Not everyone has 5 toilets in their home, some only have the one and if you've got to go then you've got to go.

Loveisthemessage · 10/06/2012 11:15

Whether someone poos publicly or not is up for debate. Turds aside, I think this is more about the OP's DP not showing her any respect whatsoever. It's all on his terms. He is a lazy oaf who is taking her for granted and seems totally unwilling to listen to her or try to change/improve the situation. The fact that he has put on 5 stone suggests he doesn't care about himself or about you. He needs a good, sharp shock. OP - you need to gather yourself and build your self-confidence. I really believe counselling with boost you so you can make some serious decisions about your future. I'm afraid is doesn't sound like he will ever change. As you said it yourself: "I deserve better." You definitely do.

MeCookGoodSock · 10/06/2012 11:31

We don't live in Roman times so don't have to abide with filth like they did. We don't throw our slop out of windows anymore, because it was disgusting and unhygienic.

Shitting in front of your partner (or anyone for that matter) is disrespectful. What next? You must wipe his arse when he's done because hey, it's just a bit of shit?

Whatever happened to dignity?

He's a grown man not a small child and unless he has a bad case of food poisoning, he should show some self control! He doesn't though, because he doesn't respect you or himself.

Uncouth!

I know some people can live with it. I honestly couldn't.

OP, listen to your RL friends. They have a better picture of you and your DP than you can relate to us here and they have your best interests at heart.

Leave the bastard!

agedgoth · 10/06/2012 13:45

I do always ask if he needs to use the bathroom first before I step in the shower! Grin

I'm afraid it's a major turn off for me. I do believe in some semblance of privacy and dignity. Appreciate not everyone's as squeamish as me though.

This morning he tugged at my PJs, fumbled for a bit and lasted a couple of minutes (because 'I'd mentioned sex yesterday')before asking me to get his breakfast Hmm. He's lucky I don't have arsenic in my spice rack.

He's still in bed now.

Have downloaded a couple of self-confidence books to my Kindle and am looking into counselling too. I almost think it would be better if he shouted and screamed rather than laughing at me or giving me the silent treatment when I try to confront him. I'd almost feel more justified at issuing ultimatums then, unlike the foolish nymphomaniac he makes me feel like I am now.

I expect he'll stay in bed for another couple of hours before drifting down in time for the next footie match and his roast dinner.

OP posts:
MooncupGoddess · 10/06/2012 13:50

Oh God, OP. Please don't let this horrible half-life of yours drag on much longer... it will destroy you.

AnyFucker · 10/06/2012 13:55

you had "sex" with him this morning ?

really ?

whatever for ?

lovechoc · 10/06/2012 13:56

Is he going through a mid-life crisis, perhaps?

pumpkinsweetie · 10/06/2012 13:58

You are cooking him roast dinner whilst he lays in bed, its almost 2pm!-lazy git
I wouldn't want him fumbling my drawsEnvy -hope he wiped his bum 1stGrin

AnyFucker · 10/06/2012 14:03

You are cooking him roast dinner ?

really ?

whatever for ?

Rabid · 10/06/2012 14:10

oh man up OP

agedgoth · 10/06/2012 14:11

Well I'm cooking me roast dinner too - not just him Smile
And I really wouldn't call this morning's antics sex, it was barely noticeable.
He's up now, having a moan as I've made him take the bins out...

I'm drawing strength, need to get my reserves up...

OP posts:
pumpkinsweetie · 10/06/2012 14:13

Stick him out with the binsGrin, seriously how do you put up with it?

Loveisthemessage · 10/06/2012 14:15

His expectations of you way out of date. You're not a Stepford wife. Why do even want to have sex with this person? How can you be attracted to someone who treats you like this? You sound switched on, but you need to have more self-respect.

Loveisthemessage · 10/06/2012 14:17

Tap into your inner Warrior Woman

AnyFucker · 10/06/2012 14:21

I am not trying to upset you, OP

but after everything you said last night, and the clear way in which it appeared you had started to process the way he is treating you, you seem to have passively gone along with everything today fully on his terms

I know it takes time to garner strength, but would it be a good idea to start somewhere ?

what would you be waiting for, exactly ?

I simply wouldn't cook a roast dinner for a lazy fuck like this

if I fancied one, I would ring a friend or take the kids out to the local pub and not invite him

and if over a long period of time, my sexual needs hadn't been taken care of, I would simply stop servicing his

and tell him why

PooPooInMyToes · 10/06/2012 14:22

I like the idea of counselling on my own. I'd just have to make sure he didn't find out or he'd take the piss mercilessly

Id tell him to shut his fucking mouth! I HATE people like that! I would imagine it is either fear or ignorance that causes people to react like that and neither of those is great is it.

For a man who is scared of sex in any position other then missionary, he has balls (or stupidity) to take the piss out of anyone else for talking about their problems.

AnyFucker · 10/06/2012 14:26

ok, sorry, love

I am backing right off again. I understand there must be very good reasons why you haven't instigated any changes yet. I won't say any more just now x

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