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No make up no bragging, no kissing, no shagging, no tumbling hair, be a maiden fair. And you definitely won't see him for dust! Dating thread 14

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ChaoticismyLife · 09/05/2012 21:53

Chastity belts at the ready...

Extra strong padlocks required...

Grin
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MyLittleMiracles · 16/05/2012 10:59

sponge I have been upset too, like about the one who was chatting to me for ages, ringing me, me ringing him etc, only to be told he had met someone, which tbh was for the best. It hurts, but best thing I did was get back out there and ended up going on a date the same day I moved.

After chatting to my very wise bestie I realised though that what I really wanted was already there. I just hadn't seen it yet, I was scared with just friends, that it would all go tits up. And if I never see him again I don't, but I have no regrets. I am glad it happened. I am glad I met him, he didn't tiptoe around what has happened, he treated me like I was normal. Yet never pushed my boundaries, or tried it on.

watchoutforthatsnail · 16/05/2012 11:00

Sponge - im not sure it is either, but i can understand how you felt you had a connection with him because of all that.
Im sorry about your mother, it must be really hard :(

snape - not at all. wide eyed expectations need grounding anyway

MyLittleMiracles · 16/05/2012 11:13

It's hard when you lose a connection. I have loved and lost, my dad died when I was very young, and my great aunt when I was 8 followed shortly by a lad who was in my sisters class at school and who was like a brother to me. He died of meningitus aged just 13 I miss each one of them. Still. I am almost 24 but the pain still remains, you learn to live with it. I instantly connect with those who have lost someone close, it gives an understanding.

Snapespeare · 16/05/2012 11:15

It's not a bad thing to want to help people with their problems. That shows a caring, empathic side. the problem comes if you think you can 'fix' people. You can't, you can only support while they 'fix' themselves.

I know how difficult it is to lose your mum (mine was 21 years ago, she was a single parent, I was an only child..) and then you have unhappy relationships and it really does all wear you down. while I always have hope, I really dont think I will meet anyone online. I don't believe in 'the one', I'm fed up with the sleaze and that grain of hope does let me set myself up for a fall on occasion, but I repeatedly will state it's not me. it's absolutely them.

So I am going to try a month of a paying site, send out as many messages as possible, date as much as possible and then, after a month if there is nothing hapenning I will take the rest of the year off. One last stab, an active stab and then a rest.

watchoutforthatsnail · 16/05/2012 11:18

postbel - that makes sense. I can understand that. I havent had councelling, but to be honest, its only now, 3.5 years post split. ( bearing in mind we had also split up for 18 months another time, and then got back together) to get to the point where i can see that i may have made wrong choices along the way, and worked out ( and again online dating has actually helped with this) what i do and dont want, and what sort of man i do and dont want. and what sort of behaviours are acceptbable to me and those that arent.

though councelling may have been a quicker way of doing it!

watchoutforthatsnail · 16/05/2012 11:20

yay snape. one month of rocking it, having seen a nice profile :)

Its the hope that keeps us going i think.... but then its like that for a lot of things isnt it...

PostBellumBugsy · 16/05/2012 11:26

Watch - It took me a good two years to be able to face counselling. Was bloody awful as well, as I'm not very introspective. I used to dread the sessions - but it was more useful than I could have ever imagined. It was such a revelation. Even though I knew my childhood had been grim, I was completely unable to see how I was repeating the same old shit over & over again. We crave what we know - even when that is bad for us.

ChaoticismyLife · 16/05/2012 11:34

Morning :) Still have a lingering cold so went to bed early last night.

sponge sorry to hear you're feeling down Sad Maybe a break for a couple of weeks will be good, I've found doing that helps in the past.

MsC Envy why doesn't that happen to me.

Wrt 'specifications' I have to admit I like men who are taller than me and usually have a 5ft 10in minimum. Having said that I am in contact with someone who is 5ft 8in, so we shall see. I'll also admit there are men from some other cultures that I won't get involved in because I couldn't live with the 'requirements'* of their culture.

*requirements not quite the right word but I know what I mean.

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Snapespeare · 16/05/2012 11:40

my matches are being calculated.

i am on the edge of my seat.

MyLittleMiracles · 16/05/2012 11:44

My requirements atm are very limiting until next week, no one is getting into my heart or bed unless they are -

  1. Just friends
  2. Leonardo dicaprio
  3. Usher.

Oh very limited until next week. Though my non potato is quite hot and sweet,

watchoutforthatsnail · 16/05/2012 11:46

i can imagine it was. But very useful i should think. Ive worked a bit in mental health, mental health advocacy so have had the tools and have kind of worked through it all now.
My childhood was fine, Big life shattering event aged 18. Mother had a break down caused by the death of both her parents in the same year, re evelauated her life, didnt want to be married to my father, he took it awfully. families took sides, everyone behaved appallingly. It was violent, abusive and noone thought of the children, including the other adult members of the extended family who who got involed, forcing us children to pick sides and cut contact with those that oppossed. I moved in with my father with my sister, my other sibblings stayed with my mother. The day we moved my father left me and my sister in the new house and went to stay with his new gf. We were left to fend for ourselves for the next 18 months. Perhaps unsurprisingly i went a bit rebellious ( couped with being a teenager) and decided it was good to date, and then get engaged to the local bad boy drug dealer. Who was never actually nice to me, but who gave me some status so i felt important. We broke up 18 months later.
We then all moved in with dads new gf, and her children. She made no secret she didnt want us there, and we werent allowed to eat with the rest of the family, use the cooker, or washing machine, sit in the living room or anything. i stayed in my room and lived off cold baked beans. I met my now ex husband, the most popular boy in the town ( and the one with the biggest reputation) and again, because of the status of that, decided it was a good move. I didnt even think he was attractive, he wasnt my type at all. BUT, he was in the army. I was 20, skint, living off baked beans, unable to afford to move out. no life. We got married and i got a house and a new life to start afresh somewhere new. I accepted crap behaviour because, lets face it, i had noone else. my father gave not a shit, i wasnt talking to my mother. and the wider family then didnt care.
It took 10 years to leave ( including a 2 year break in the that time) At which point i was numb and felt no connection to anyone, bar my dog. i wasnt even sure i had feelings myself.I felt like a robot.

Now, 3.5 years later, i have rebuilt myself. I do have feelings and close connections to people, and i know what is and isnt acceptable and am in a personally much better place to judge who and who isnt right for me. I can also understand why i made past decisions... but my life is so different now, im in a much better place, so i hope that at some point, when i do meet someone it will be totally different. I supose its also why i am now unforgiving of twatish behaviour too, im not going to let things slide or make excuses for someone anymore.

god - epic post!

MyLittleMiracles · 16/05/2012 11:54

I think that's what it was with the ex, bosses son, 9years older, me almost 16, hurt by one of my oldest friends who I had been dating. I fell into it so easily, yet I was still "innocent" I had never been sexual with anyone (other than kissing and a bit of bum grabbing) he was exciting and the more people told me I could do better the more I stuck by him.

I know for me a few boundaries that I won't allow to be crossed.

PostBellumBugsy · 16/05/2012 11:58

Life tends to be epic though! Grin

MyLittleMiracles · 16/05/2012 12:00

watch I stayed with my ex for a few months after he stabbed me (madness I know) not cos I had no one else but because he had convinced me social services would take my son away cos o had post natal depression which was pretty severe. I know now that the last thing they want to do is seperate mum and child. It also meant swallowing my pride. I did though, and after 6 years of marriage and 5 years of abuse, I left and am re building me again. With the love and support of those closest. I will always be grateful and love them for the support cos without them I wouldn't have had the strength to do it.

Snapespeare · 16/05/2012 12:03

oh quelle supris! the nice profile that inspired me to waste an hour filling in my profile has a non-negotiable criteria that his 'match' will not have children

who's loss? certainly not mine. pffft.

watch you've had to do a lot of work on yourself because of things that just weren't your fault. I really admire you. :)

hatesponge · 16/05/2012 12:05

I don't know if I would benefit from counselling, I've never thought it was for me or that it would get me what I want, or make me happier. I was very lucky, I had literally a perfect childhood, I couldn't have wanted anything else growing up other than for my parents to have lived longer.

I wonder though whether I am drawn to people who havent had all of that (many of my close friends didn't have terribly happy upbringings, likewise my DC's dad and a couple of other Exs).

Think I'm a bit :( in part as heard from some of my aunts (my mums sisters) yesterday who I'd invited to my party. They can't make it - which I'd expected - but they all said how much I look like my mum now. Which is sort of bittersweet as she was impossibly glamorous, and I'd love to think I do, but also reminded me how much I miss her.

PostBellumBugsy · 16/05/2012 12:11

sponge - I know your parents aren't physically here any more, but it sounds like they are very much living in your heart still. All that love and good stuff that they gave you is still there - that is a wonderful gift - and maybe you are right about wanting to share that with others. Smile

snape - lol, that is so bloody typical!

watchoutforthatsnail · 16/05/2012 12:19

snape - i know :( things werent my fault. situations happened and the choices i made were, i have come to realise, a direct response that. I had noone to guide me and noone that gave a shit at that time. And i was very young with no life experience.
But i still needed to learn and realise why i made those choices, to ensure i didnt make them again.

watchoutforthatsnail · 16/05/2012 12:23

snape - also typical! git!

sponge - bless you. its hard. Im sorry. I should think you will think about your mum even more, because its a bit of a milestone birthday and all too. Its only as ive got older and had my own child that ive realised how intrinsically important the mother/ child bond is. and how it can shape everything.
Im sure your mother would be proud of you and all you have achieved, and all that you are.
can you take the day off tomorrow, do something that she would have approved of or enjoyed?

GeorgeCostanza · 16/05/2012 12:38

ChaoticismyLife - re: men from other 'cultures'. My point is that not all men who's parents may be from somewhere else subscribe to whatever cultural requirements you may think they have. I'm 100% English, despite wherever my parents come from (which is somewhere most people would assume would have these differences - even people who know me well ask the most astonishingly stupid questions sometimes).

It's just bullshit, but means my profile will get overlooked.

watchoutforthatsnail · 16/05/2012 12:55

george - but would you want to date someone who thought that it was an issue anyway?

probably not is the answer.

GeorgeCostanza · 16/05/2012 13:00

Very good point watch.

ChaoticismyLife · 16/05/2012 13:02

Hi George yes, I see what you mean but even if it's only some of the requirements of the culture/religion (should have included that before), with my luck, it would probably be the ones I couldn't live with. Plus there's also the possibility that they may just move the goalposts when they get older. I'm playing safe and avoiding altogether. I would quite happily date them but it couldn't lead anywhere so I don't see the point in wasting either of our time.

Snape sorry to hear you've wasted your time but I have to admit one of my requirements is that they don't have kids.

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zanywany · 16/05/2012 13:04

I've put a pix of my ring on my profile

watchoutforthatsnail · 16/05/2012 13:09

chaotic - i do agree. With the buddist i was a bit gutted, but then after more thought, i wouldnt and couldnt date someone who was off weeks on end on isolation retreats. or praying or mediating all the time. or whatever. Or how was teatotal. and vegan and mimsy.

I tend to take the ' i dont want to waste anyones time' either stance. Im quite happy on my own, and will wait until i meet somone that fits in with me, or such that any comprimises are only small ones.