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What to do? (EA? SA?) Legal advice needed as well please - warning, it is extremely long!

493 replies

StickorFold · 25/04/2012 10:57

This is going to be long and warbled, and might not make too much sense, maybe a bit bitty, but will try and put as much as much detail in as I can so I'm not adding to it after.

Firstly, I am an old MN'er, used to be a prolific poster, so it may be that the odd one of you may work out who I am, I would really appreciate it if anyone that suspects just keeps it to themselves please.

Secondly, think it goes against MN rules to have two accounts, though I hope for this one occasion we can over look this, as it is the only way I feel safe enough to get this out and hopefully gain some advice.

Thirdly, I may not be able to reply as ofter as I'd like, but will try my best to get on when I can.

OK, so, background: H and I have been married for 11 and a half years, three children, he is a good, loving dad, he works extremely hard (60hrs a month), he is ace at helping out around the house, he does most of the cooking, involved in bath times/bedtimes (when he is here), he does put the kids first in everything, and that reason, and that reason alone, is the only reason we are still together now.

I also work, of sorts, I have two failed/failing businesses under my belt, and am now working part time while youngest is at nursery and the older two are in school, plus evenings/weekends (17-20 hrs a week). I will be coming back to my 'job' in a bit.

His 13 years older than me, we met when I was 17, moved into a flat together, got engaged, got married, and (planned) DC within 3 months of us meeting. At the time, I thought he really must have loved me, now realise he pushed us both into it, nearly losing my family along the way (didn't speak to my lovely mum for over a year, she missed my eledest's pregnancy/birth/first xmas etc.), I lost all of my friends, he didn't have any as he had moved from a different part of the country to be with me, because he loved me soooo much Hmm

He told me about a week before we got married that he had two children, by different women, that were only 5 and 6 years younger than me (the children!). He said he was young and stupid and that he'd never seen either of them, though he did pay a very small amount of CSA (big of him, eh? WHY couldn't I see it at the time? Angry) I have since found out that actually he did live with the mother of the second child for a while after she was born, but that it didn't work out, so all the 'firsts' we were doing to gether with our first child, weren't actually his firsts at all Sad.

He'd had a long term relationship with someone who he said he never wanted to marry, or have children with, even though she wanted to desperately, he apparently just left her one day, and then met me within 4/5 months and declaired his undying love ("I didn't love her enough, she was nothing like you, didn't I prove that when I married you and not her?")

He had a difficult upbringing, don't want to go into too much detail as I don't feel that would be fair of me, but, very quickly, his mum left him, his older siblings and his dad when H was very young, and by the time he was a young teen, his siblings had all moved out, and his dad had practically moved in with a new lady, H was fending for himself from 14yo.

Over the course of our marriage, I have obviously matured from being a 17yo girl (in essence), and over the last 3-4 years I have come to realise that H is (subtly) EA. He was very controlling over a friendship I had with a girl, to the point where we ended up moving 30 miles away, which was very convieniant for him. And it was the turning point in my mind, I could see as clear as day what was going on, what he was doing to me, and I told him we were over, neither of us could afford to move out, so we carried on staying under the same roof, big mistake, within a month, you'd never know we were going to split. I have now 'lost touch' with my friend, and have no others.

Since then, I have done a fair amount of burying my head in the sand, trying to 'tune in' to when he was preasuring me in any way etc. couple of times I known for sure and talked to him about it, he always wormed his way out of it, and after a few days of uncomfortableness (for me) I'd get over it and it was placed under that very lumpy carpet, with all the rest of the shit.

Throughout the whole time we have been a family, he has always (and I believe will always) love the kids wholely, and properly, there are a couple of very small odd things that have become sticking points over the years (e.g. he insists that when we all eat dinner, we don't cut into a boiled potato (or whatever) and just eat the potato, we also cut a bit of the fish (or whatever!) and eat the fish and potato at the same time, I know that is really odd, but it is just one of the tiny things that sticks in my head) He also can never seem to manage the small things we ask of him, e.g. I have two sugars in my cup of tea, he never ever puts two in, why not? Hmm

About two-ish years ago, I got very drunk, with him at home, saturday night, overdid the wine, not a regular occurance. When I woke up in the morning I thought I could remember him having sex with me in the middle of the night, I asked him and he denied it, I questioned myself (was I that drunk/dreaming?) but (sorry for TMI) I found the 'evidence' as I went to the bathroom, if you follow my drift? So I knew he had, I thought maybe he was drunk as well and couldn't remember. Wrote it off as a strange night.

Since then I have woken up to feeling him ejaculating on me, or wiping me with his t-shirt after he has ejaculated on me, or woken up just as he has tried to actually put his willy in me, sometimes I have asked him what the bloody hell he thinks he's doing, sometimes I just pretend I'm still asleep. Any time I bring it up, I apparently should feel lucky that he still wants me after so long, and after the children, and if I was more willing he wouldn't have to resort to these measures. Now I am the first one to admit, our sex life has suffered over the years, we tend to go in spits and spats, sometimes it can be two or three weeks, sometimes 5 or 6 times a week, no pattern to it, sometimes it is when I am most angry/hurt that we have more sex, not sure if that is me trying to regain some control?

Money has always been a problem, we've never seemed to have enough(!) (though TBF we have never been as tight as it is right now, now we are struggling for food at times, whereas, whilst there might not have been much left over 12 months ago, there was some) I was a SAHM until 2 years ago, I have tried and failed two different businesses (trying to work around child care etc.) neither of which had big outlays, but both of which really needed money for advertising that we just didn't/haven't got.

H point blank refused for me to get a part-time evening job, either in a bar/shop/etc. Saying that we'd never see each other, I'd miss the kid's bedtimes etc. But we were desperate for money. That stupid bloody program came on the telly about the phone sex line girls, H jumped on it, said it was be perfect for me, I could do it while the kids were out, and maybe some evenings to get extra money in, and that it might open my mind a bit and give us a boost in our sex lives. So for the past 4 weeks I have spent many evenings, in and out of the garage conversion, to deal with bedtimes etc. while trying to take/dodge calls from people. He will say things like "Did you touch yourself for any of them?" "Have you made much on your wank line?" "Oooo, bet you're all turned on now, talking to those other men". He sits in the living room watching the phone to know exactly when I'm on the phone and when I'm not, watching porn, sending me pictures of his errect penis over a photo of me, sending videos of himself wanking over pictures of me on the laptop etc. This is all supposed to get me in the mood... Hmm and Sad and Angry.

So, after a shit week last week, and having made some extra money, I went and bought us some wine on Saturday, I drank nearly two bottles (again, I like wine, but not usually that much!) H actually poured the last glass of the second bottle but I said I'd had enough and was going to bed, we had sex and I went to sleep. Next thing I remember waking up, he was on top of me, having sex with me, my legs were closed underneath him, he was completely squashing me, I was whimpering, actually whimpering (makes my bloody boil when I think how I was), I was saying no, ow, no, but strangely, I wasn't screaming and shouting it, or trying to move away or anything, I was just a pathetic whimpering heap, why didn't I try to stop him? He ejeculated in me and gave me an extra tight squeeze, and rolled off me. I asked him why he just carried on when I was saying no, and he said he thought I was moaning in pleasure Hmm He asked if we were ok, I said yes, rolled over and went to sleep.

He spent Sunday morning walking on egg shells, being extra nice, I didn't say a word about it and just acted normal, thinking I needed time to work out what I was going to do, and it was best to keep my cards to my chest as it were.

Yesturday we got into bed, he asked, actually asked, out of the blue, "can I cum on you?" I said no in a lighttone and pointed to the bathroom, he seemed to shrug it off, gave me a kiss on my cheek, turned over and started to fall asleep, I turned over and led there with my eyes open, he obviously presumed I was asleep, he started wanking, I purposefully moved to see what he would do, he just carried straight on, I heard/felt him get his t-shirt to clean up (it is always his t-shirts) and then he was asleep, I came downstairs and cried. He has absolutely no respect for me, I think the porn thing is playing a part in this, he never (seemed to) used it before a couple of years ago, and slowly but steadily, he has been using it more, and in the same time frame I am becoming more and more of his object to do with as he pleases, when he pleases.

So, for anyone that has got this far (and bloody well done if you did!) firstly, am I being unfair on the kids to take them away from their dad when he is brilliant with them? They love him to bits, it will break their hearts and I don't want to risk being the cause of the that.

Secondly, we rent our house (both names on tenancy), he owns the car but I drive it 99% of the time, we have no savings etc. My mum lives 200 miles away and it is the only place I could go. The only way I can get away from him, with some money in my pocket to get us there and a means of getting us there is if when he next get's paid (last working day of each month) to move some money from our joint account to my own, (this will leave bills here unpaid), take the car, pack up everything I can get in it, and take the kids and I to my mums. He will know exactly where I am, I'm not scared of him, but the fact I have cut all ties (except the kids obv.), will show him that we are over. He will hate it, he will hate me for doing it, but he will calm down fairly quickly, and realise he's pushed it too far, for the sake of seeing the kids.

Would I be facing any legal repercussions in taking the car/money? I just dont know how else to do it.

Right, this is humongous, I am sure I still haven't given all the details, but I really just wanted to get as much as I could down. Thanks to anyone who has made it to the end, and if anyone has any advice, I am all eyes ears.

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StickorFold · 25/04/2012 14:06

You are all right, I am being pathetic, I know.

Mum knows the small amount I told her about when we 'split' last time, she knows nothing of the sex side of things.

How do I get my name taken off the tenancy agreement without him knowing? I am planning on literally waving him off to work, moving the money, packing the car and leaving, I want to be at mums by the time he gets home from work, and it will take 5/6 hours with stops to get there.

The landlord has a deposit of a months rent, so am hoping H get's his act together soon enough to get out in time for the next month, if not, his look out.

Once I have sorted schools and stuff, will be going to the bank, getting my name taken off the account so am not tempted to steal take any more than I need to get gone. I don't actually want to ruin him. Re. bills, is it as easy as me ringing each one and removing my name? Does this mean I need to take the latest bills with me for account details and things? Not sure if we have them all, H deals with them and some are online, I don't know log in details etc.

What do I need to take re. car docs? Anything else I haven't thought of? Luckily, all the paper work is in the garage, so I can stride through it all while I am on my 'wank line'.

...and the moral of the story is, Mum's are always right, wish I'd have taken some notice of her when I was 17 and a grown up! Now feel like a little girl that has been left on her own.

What else do I need to think about? Is there anything I can do now, in the run up, to make it easier on the day, that he can't/won't know about?

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TheHappyHissy · 25/04/2012 14:07

You can get help to leave/have him removed
You can get help to make ends meet
You can learn to cook

HE however will NEVER be anything else than a raping abuser. Your DC are being poisoned by his presence in their lives.

They will not be devastated. YOU will not be devastated. It will be the best thing that has happened to you so far.

Focus on what your life will be without him (1,000,000x better) and keep going.

I had my abusive ex leave just over a year ago, and while his abuse wasn't a patch on your vile H, my life is a billion times better without him, and gets better EVERY DAY. Not a single moment has gone past where I regret him going.

Please get out and first thing first, get onto the Freedom Programme. Read WHY DOES HE DO THAT by Lundy Bancroft. keep posting, there are tons of us former DV victims here. We all feel the same way, we can all help one another to recover.

TheHappyHissy · 25/04/2012 14:08

Woman's Aid can tell you what you need to sort out. They may help you with where to go, how do to it etc. give them a call

nickelhasababy · 25/04/2012 14:33

write all the account numbers in your diary.
(for utilities etc)
you don't need to tell them any other details,. just ring them and ask for your name to be removed.

if you can, try to siphon of some money from your joint bank account into your own account.
the best way to do it is withdraw cash in small amounts.

and fill the petrol tank.

if you can transfer a large amount of money into your account on the day you leave, that's good too.

nickelhasababy · 25/04/2012 14:34

oh, if you can't get the account numbers for the bills, just give them your postcode :)

Chubfuddler · 25/04/2012 14:37

You can sort out all the utilities and the tenancy after you leave. It's just a few phone calls "my husband and I have separated. I am no longer living there. Please remove my name from the account".

You can do this. You need to.

StickorFold · 25/04/2012 14:43

Thank you TheHappyHissy (and everyone of course!) but just wanted to make it clear there has never been any issues of DV, so obviously uncomparable to people stuck in those situations.

I don't think I need to call WA, somehow the situation doesn't seem worthy of their time and resources, I've got a plan of action as it were, anything else can be sorted as and when.

Will have a look to find as many a/c no.'s as possible, I also need to ring the chat line place and change my bank account details. Should I try to cancel DD's and standing orders for next month's bills? most go out in the first week of the month, else we'll have loads of charges from the bank. Problem is, I don't know what info he can see on his phone, whether he'll be able to see I've cancelled them, or if any of the companies will ring to tell him they've had a cancelled DD. He cannot know I intend to go.

This time next week I am hoping we will just about be arriving at mum's, or certainly not far off it. Was originally hoping to go when he got paid, but then realised about the car tax etc. makes sense to sort that out here before I go.

Can't believe I am actually going to do this. I don't think I will believe it until we're gone.

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Chubfuddler · 25/04/2012 14:48

He is controlling
He rapes you

That is DV.

StickorFold · 25/04/2012 14:59

OK, sorry, I have mis interpreted the definition of DV then, I always thought that was physical abuse? Either way, I suppose I am saying I know full well there are many people in worse situations than this!

Right, I have to go and get the older from school, don't know when I'll be back on, probably tomorrow, unless I can sneak on later.

Thank you to everyone for your in put, and support, it is much appreciated, and I think lots of re-reading the posts will be in store for this next week, to keep my mind set straight.

Thanks again :)

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TheHappyHissy · 25/04/2012 15:00

Domestic violence isn't just the bloke that stumbles in from the pub on a friday night and batters his DW.

What you are living IS Domestic Abuse. Having sex with you without your consent is an act of violation. It IS Domestic Violence. I'm so sorry.

This is actually WHY I suggest that you contact WA, that you get on the Freedom Programme asap, so that you can see what you have been living through all this time is NOT right, and IS Abuse.

The situation you describe is serious, it is sustained and it is about as abusive as you can get. You are in desperate need of WA. If you read out what you have written here to them, and ask them if you qualify for their attention, they WILL tell you YES.

WA is there for ALL women suffering at the hands of their partners.

www.freedomprogramme.co.uk/docs/mrgoodbad-english.pdf

Have a look at that diagram. Your H is on the first page. he's ALL over it.

TheHappyHissy · 25/04/2012 15:01

There is no 'worse than' in Abuse.

What you describe makes me shudder. IMHO it's worse than what I experienced. If you know/knew my story, you would say that my past shocks YOU.

You have normalised it all, to survive. it's a coping mechanism.

Coping is not living.

nickelhasababy · 25/04/2012 15:24

If the bills go out of your joint account, then leave them there.
just get your name taken off it before he tries to get you in trouble for letting the account go overdrawn.
(unless they're your personal ones, in which case get them transferred to your new account)

you don't need to do it all online - you can do it in the branch (and it can be the branch up at your mum's, to save you having to do it where you are)

TheHappyHissy · 25/04/2012 15:38

WA is not just like the Samaritans, it is a help service too. They advise you what you will need, your rights and your options, they can put you in touch with local support services, the can help you access social services, and benefits.

CailinDana · 25/04/2012 16:10

How can you say this man is a good father? How?
OP it sounds to me like you've been with this man for so long that you've lost sight of normality. Would you be happy to sit down with your children in ten years' time and describe your relationship with their father? Do you think they would be happy to hear that he raped you, sexually assaulted you, pressurised you into working on a chatline and then used it to get his kicks? Would they think "Oh yeah, dad is great, you totally deserved all that?"

Do you want them to grow up in a house where they have no say over how they eat their food, or where they ask for something and don't get it because their shit of a father is playing some silly mindgame (the sugar thing made me shudder, really).

You are experiencing a very high level of domestic violence. Something in your background is stopping you from seeing that. Can you identify what that might be?

OxfordBags · 25/04/2012 16:33

He rapes and sexually assualts and demeans you repeatedly, he has forced you into a form of prostitution, heis addicted to porn, he is so controlling that he insists on dictating how other people actually bloody eat (I mean, WTAF?!), but you don't want to leave him because you don't want to do the bins or mow the lawn? I'm not trying to be sensationalist, OP, but I foresee him moving all this into the direction of you having to sleep with other men for him to watch and then forcing you intophysical prostitution for his kicks. It's the next logical step.

Who on earth taught you that a man is allowed to treat you this way? Why so you value yourself so little? What he is doing is RAPE. No grey areas, RAPE. If he genuinely doesn't know that it is wrong, he needs urgent psychiatric counselling because he is either a sociopath or so detached from reality and normal behaviour that he is adanger to society. He is RAPING YOU because he wants to and he's controlled and broken you with his abusive behaviour to the point where you barely complain or care about yourself.

Even if you don't care about yourself being raped, why on earth do you think it's acceptable for your children to grow up in a home with a rapist, a pimp and pervert? Because that's what he is, even if you can't see it or won't admit it. A few fart jokes hardly make up for the cold hard truth. You need to leave, OP. He is dangerous and his abuse of you is escalating.

StickorFold · 25/04/2012 17:10

Shit, just done huge post and lost it! I'm such an idiot!

OK, I am being abused, I know this, I will admit, reading some of your comments is bringing it home to me just how badly abused I am, but I still feel people are in far worse situations. I'm not worried for the DC's or indeed my own life for instance.

Regardless, the main thing is that I keep this anger I am feeling since Saturday and use it to get us out of here, and not to bloody cave in - please you guys, don't let me do that. Everything else, the state of my mind, how I feel about myself etc. I can deal with on the other side. FWIW, no, I've no real reason for falling into the trap of an abusive man. My mum and dad split up when I was about 8, but I barely remember him, even when they were together, he was never there, so I don't think I have/had any issues with men. I've had close relationships with men all my life, my BIL is a huge part of my life, even now, DS2 is named after him! In fact before my husband I had a teen relationship with a nice guy that lasted for 2 years, and inbetween him and H, I started sort of seeing a guy who seemed nice, until he taught me how a match can burn twice, I still have the scar to prove it, though I suspect he has probably forgotten how I threw him out of my house so fast he didn't know what to do. I was not his 'victim'.

I don't really know how/what H's next step would be if I stayed (I'm not staying BTW, just trying to see where it would go) I don't think he would try to actually prostitute me out, he has always had a really big issue re. me going off with another man, even though I have never given him any reason to think this, he always said that I'd find someone younger than him and 'see the light'. This is a big part as to why he doesn't want me to have friends/work outside of the home, I might meet someone. I also remember him telling me once that he could never forgive me if I had sex with someone else, "even if you were raped by someone, I'm not sure I could ever get over the thought of you being with someone else". I can't see that he'd have changed his mind on that score.

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StickorFold · 25/04/2012 17:19

Right, down to business, to clarify:

We have a joint bank account, both of our wages go into it, all bills come out of it in the first week of the month. I also hold my own account, CHB is paid into that, and I usually just transfer it into our joint account. AFAIK, he doesn't have another account, I've no reason to think he would have.

Now, my plan is to move a large amount of his wage (due in on Monday) to my own account, this would be for us to live on until I have sorted benefits etc. down south. In moving this money, it would mean there is no where near enough left in our joint account to cover our (mostly) joint bills.

I can go on and cancel DD's and SO's due out, but you need to do it with 5 days notice else they don't garentee they will be stopped in time. If I cancel them, firstly H might actually noticed they've been cancelled if he logged into the bank, and secondly the relevent companies may try to contact H to ask why they've been cancelled and then my plan is rumbled. If I don't cancel them, we will end up with massive bank charges, and he would literally not have a single penny to his name. So what do I do? Without taking the money I can't go anywhere.

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OxfordBags · 25/04/2012 17:20

Well, he's co-erced you into sex chatlines, somhow that squares up with his jealousyover you beingwith other men, I don't know.

And the fact that you barely remember your father, even when he loved at home with you,is very telling. Perhaps you don't really know what to expect from a husband or feel that your children having what appears to be a good father (because he is not, because he rapes, abuses and controls their mother) is worth you putting up with anything, I dunno, but something in you is permitting absolutely abnormal, disgusting and unacceptable stuff to happen to yourself.

And please don't use the 'other women have it worse' excuse to yourself. It's as illogical as saying a black person can't be upset if someone is racist to them, because they're not a slave. And what do you mean when you use this excuse to tyourself? Have you some set point that you will let things deteriorate to before you believe yourself worthy of not having to tolerate abuse anymore?! It's not a black and white thing, you don't have to choose between death/incest and you'll leave OR stay if the abuse isn't up to that level yet.

I hope I don't seem aggressive, it's just that you are in a clearly horrid situation and don't seem to realise how bad it is, but more importantly, that you do not deserve to tolerate this. Or, most importnatly, that you are letting your children grow up with this scumbag for a father. The attitude and behaviour of Men who would rape and pimp their wives will leak out into how they behave and act in other situations and hese will be damaging your children, for sure.

StickorFold · 25/04/2012 17:31

I think I probably was putting up with the EA, largely because he had backed down on so many things, but now, with what happened Saturday, and the other 'near misses', maybe he has hit the jackpot before and I have no idea? Who knows? Either way, I know I have to get out of this, and the sooner the better. Kids are at school and nursery all day on Mondays, can use that time to ring my mum, get her up to speed as it were, get smaller things together that he won't notice, do any paperwork gathering etc. making lists of things to pack etc. Then Tuesday (a whole day earlier than I thought!) I will see him off to work, pack the stuff, tell the kids we're off to Nana's and we'll be gone.

Not sure how to handle the numerous phone calls from him in the day, he'll hear the kids, they won't stay quiet, and I really want to get to mums before he even knows we've gone. If he suspects anything he will easily catch us up, if I don't get to mums, I'll never get there. Any ideas with that one?

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foolonthehill · 25/04/2012 17:31

I internet bank and I have never been alerted to changes in DD or SO by text. I was given confirmation by letter about 2 weeks after the fact.

Why not phone them and ask if there is a text alert for ANYTHING related to your account? and whilst you are at it check how much you can move in one transaction. He would have to actually check the DD and SO [page to see what you have done...........so he would need to be suspicious.....

A joint account is usually joint and several in other words you are equally responsible and equally "allowed"

StickorFold · 25/04/2012 17:39

Thanks for the bank info, I think, even at the risk of him finding out, I might have to just cancel them, if I don't, then the charges etc. would be just something else for me to sort out on the other side. If I cancel them, then maybe use Monday to ring the companies and take myself off the accounts, then it is up to him to sort it all out. I think.

I can't believe I am doing this, really can't believe I am doing this without him, without his opinion, permission.

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foolonthehill · 25/04/2012 17:39

block his number on your phone when you leave. PEACE......concentrate on you for now. Set your communication boundaries early on

eg decide only by email and only look at them at given times of day...this will avoid you being "forced" to interact with him when you are not mentally prepared. At least until he "borrows" someone else's phone.

remember he has had 2 other relationships that he appears to have no contact from..even with DCs involved.

foolonthehill · 25/04/2012 17:43

stick wow, look at you keep up that determination...you do not need his permission to have a life!

oikopolis · 25/04/2012 17:48

on a legal level, your husband is a criminal. he is a rapist and a pimp.

on a moral level, your husband is an abusive, controlling, needy and pathetic man.

your children know how he sees you. it is as plain to them as the nose on your face.

they are learning from him (and you) that women are to be controlled and treated as sexual objects. you say you see his abusive nature; i can guarantee you, you are blind to most of it, and in fact you have normalised so much, that your children are internalising things that would make you sick to your stomach. their perception of women and girls (of themselves, if they are female) will be so warped that you will rue the day you met this man.

they are also learning that to be a man, means to control women and use to fulfill sexual and financial needs. this means your DDs will seek out men who control and use them, and your DSs will believe that unless they have a woman to control and use, they are not "real men".

you say you need permission to leave your husband.

i am telling you that you don't just have permission; you have a moral obligation to remove your vulnerable and highly impressionable children from the influence of a man who will fuck them up beyond all repair. don't ever make the mistake of thinking your kids will thrive because they "don't know" the extent of it. you are fooling yourself and you will regret that denial when your children are adults.

your husband belongs in jail.
he wouldn't behave as he does if he thought he wasn't raping and sexually assaulting you.

AdelaideAussie · 25/04/2012 17:53

happyhissy I've just had an omfg moment when I clicked on the link you posted and read that If a man refuses sexual advances then he is a sexual controller and therefore ( according to the diagram ) dominating women is my game, again, omfg.....................

I do agree with everything else in the diagram tho' but, omfg.........not that bit.