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Am I fighting for my marriage or begging?

631 replies

cwtchy · 28/03/2012 15:28

I've been with my DH 14 years, and married for 5 of them. We have a 2 yo and a 4 yo. Things haven't been great for a while as often happens with 2 babies, but DH also works shifts and I work on his days off, which means we have had almost zero time to ourselves since the DCs were born.

DH has told me this week he doesn't love me anymore and it's the end of our marriage.

I'm bloody devastated. I love him as I've always done and was looking forward to our youngest starting nursery this sept so we could have more time together - I was so looking forward to that. He says however that it's gone on too long for him and the love just isn't there any more for him.

I don't want to just let him go, and have told him exactly how I feel, asked him to come to counselling with me, asked for the separation to be a trial one. But he is refusing and says he doesn't want to drag the pain out for me. Should I be trying everything to keep him, or do I deserve better and let him get on with it? I just feel like he hasn't even tried. We used to have such a fantastic relationship. I don't want to beg someone to stay with me who doesn't love me. But I also want to fight for what we had.

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MadAboutHotChoc · 29/03/2012 10:01

Cowardly cheating spineless bastard.

He does not know how you must feel - he really has no idea. I agree he did fuck it all up though - he could have talked to you about the relationship instead of shagging OW.

As for the rest of his text, remember he is not your friend anymore so do not trust him to do the right thing by you and the DC now that he has OW pulling his strings.

Miggsie · 29/03/2012 10:04

How dreadful.

I wonder how long it would have taken him to say anything if you hadn't found him out?

HotBurrito1 · 29/03/2012 10:09

. What an arse he is. Hope your mum gives you real hugs.

fallenpetal · 29/03/2012 10:14

Oh hun, what a spineless arse, mine told me by text too - it just makes it all so much worse :( be strong love.

ionysis · 29/03/2012 10:16

So so sorry cwtchy, I remember how truly heart rending this is and wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. Please believe me, I know it doesn't feel like anything could ever be OK again but it really will be. You won't feel like this forever, I promise you.

You just need to focus on getting through one day at a time. Don't even hesitate to ask for support from your friends and family - you will be amazed at how many people love you and will want to help you out in every way.

If you feel you need to, go to your doctor and ask him to prescribe you with something to help you sleep or help those horrible feelings of panic you get in your chest - half a xanax in the evening allowed me to sleep - and sleep was the only thing which made the hurt go away.

I also found reading a book let me escape even for an hour from reality, although some people can't concentrate on anything for long enough.

Make sure you try to eat, even though you feel sick to your stomach. And however tempting it is to drown your sorrows with a bottle of wine don't do it. The next day you will feel ten times worse as the depressant efect kicks in.

Your DCs will keep you afloat more than anything else right now. They need you and love you and their little warm bodies giving you hugs will help so much.

Not speaking to him will also be the best medicine, although it will be so so hard to stick to no contact. You need the space to get your head in order.

Keep posting if you need support. Sometimes hearing from random internet strangers can be as comforting as crying on the shoulder of a RL friend. I am SO sorry you are going through this.

sternface · 29/03/2012 10:22

So sorry cwtchy Sad

What a coward.

Well yes of course things haven't been right for a while. They stopped being right the moment he saw the OW as affair material. Before that, I bet things were just fine, or normal for a couple with two young kids anyway!

He won't be following that script though. The pair of them will have convinced themselves that the marriage was dead in the water before she ever entered the picture, but you will know otherwise.

Don't let them rewrite history and treat him with contempt now. Tell everyone he's been having an affair for months, because he has you know.

mywashingmachineneverstops · 29/03/2012 10:38

Oh dear. How awful for you Cwtchy. Pathetic man texting something like that rather then facing you in person.

You are not on your own. All of your friends and family will support you and you have the most precious things with you, your DC. Take one hour at a time and focus on the everyday tasks to keep going if you can. Or do whatever gives you comfort. Great that you mum is on her way. And well done for reacting to the text like you did. You are already taking some of the initiative back. You can tell him how it is going to be from now on and do not rely on him for anything, especially not emotional support (no matter how hard this is). Sending you huge hugs.

BelleEnd · 29/03/2012 10:40

Please know that this man is a total bastard, and that even if things weren't right, that doesn't make it any better that he cheated on you. He will regret it, because you're lovely and dependable and a good mother to his children. He is an absolute twat and though it hurts now, you are most definitely better off without him.
HUGE hugs to you.

Overcooked · 29/03/2012 10:46

I am apoplectic on your behalf OP, what an absolute coward, how dare he end your marriage by text, the selfish, selfcentered, arrogant prick!

He abolustely does not deserve you and you can bet there will come a time when he sees this but it is too late - he's shown his true colours.

Look after yourself and the kids and take steps to get this man out of your life - he is no longer your husband.

I am so, so sorry.

CurrySpice · 29/03/2012 10:48

Oh good lord. What an arsehole. I'm so sorry cwtchy Sad

I'm glad you've got your mom coming.

You poor poor thing Sad

CurrySpice · 29/03/2012 10:49

And the way he tries to make out he's such a hero by "telling you straight away" is just breathtaking!! Angry

BeforeAndAfter · 29/03/2012 10:50

I'm so so sorry - I'm crying for you now cwtchy - no-one should have to suffer this, ever, let alone with two little ones too.

You have done the right thing with telling family and all I can say is lean on them, let them love you and do what they can for you. You will be bombarded by so many emotions and thoughts all on top of little sleep as you try and keep the wheels of real life turnings so in a week's time, don't let your head take over and do that whole "I don't want to be a burden to my family" thing. Don?t try and stand on your own two feet in the coming weeks; let your family and friends take the strain.

Do tell work what?s going on. I?m not really sure what being a professional searcher involves but if you have an office to go to then let your boss and your colleagues know. I cannot tell you how much support I have had from work and, sadly, you will find so many women have been where you are now and can help you with first-hand experience.

As for H I think it?s appalling that he?s confessed by text but at least there?s no doubt or false hope in your mind and he?s not coming out with lies and excuses.

You need to start detaching from H - think ?detach, detach, detach?. Personally, I found the strict no contact route to be the only way. This is not so easy with kids but you can always work something out with family so that you don?t have to see him. That may make it easier in the short-term and stop you getting that whole feeling of lurching back to wanting to be him every time you see him.

Lean on your Mum, your family, his family. Share the grief because for now you will all be grieving and shocked at finding out that there is a whole side to this man / husband / son that none of you knew.

Other wise words that I followed were: ?to treat myself as I would my best friend?. I think that?s a lovely way of putting it and you need to do that too. Look after yourself and try and do one nice thing a day just for you - even if that?s eating cake or having a bubble-bath while your Mum takes care of the kids.

Oh and write. Take plenty of paper and a pen and write whatever comes out of the pen. You will be amazed at what comes out of that pen - let you thoughts and emotions flow on to that paper. Don?t be scared if you write stuff that society says we shouldn?t. Just put it all down on that paper and then in a few days, read it back. And when you can?t sleep or feel over-whelmed do it all over again. I found the writing to be great therapy and over the weeks the writing became less hate-fuelled and more focussed on positive stuff and by reading back I could see that I was progressing along a patch of recover even if I didn?t feel it.

If you want to try and understand what happened to the dynamic between you and H at a deeper level I can recommend reading Andrew Marshall?s ?How Can I Ever Trust You Again?? and his other book ?I Love You but I?m not In Love With You?. I had these books by the bed and would dip into them whenever I needed to.

You do need time to think and recover from the shock but when you get through the next few days, which will be adrenalin-fuelled, you may find you want to try and salvage your marriage. You just never know, and with reality hitting your H he may find that too. All I can say is try to react with your head if that?s at all possible, and not your emotions, so you keep doors ajar, if not open. You can always slam a door shut when your head tells you to and it will be slammed shut with dignity and knowing exactly what you want but doors closed through words spat with hatred and emotion don?t always prise open so easily later on - easy to say I know.

You?re being bombarded by advice right now so even if you take just one or two things that resonate for you, that?s good. Think of the words from all of us here as a pick and mix from which you can choose the things to do that seem right for you.

Little steps are all you take right now, sometimes they?ll be backwards, sometimes you?ll walk in circles but trust me you will move forward each week and you?ll come out of this and life really will be better. Even if you can?t see that right now, just take it on blind faith. It really does get easier and better.

B&A x

LiarsWife · 29/03/2012 10:52

Sorry this has happened but better to find out sooner rather than later ..

I agree with everyone else .. he followed the script became distant when he me the OW and then said the marriage wasn't right .. If he was any sort of a man he would have spoken to you and tried to fix things but instead he ran for the exit..

I know exactly what you are going through but you will come out of this realising that you have had a lucky escape from a spineless lying twunt ..

I told EVERYBODY including STBXCH what he'd been up to - I had nothing to be ashamed of ..

Get his stuff out of the house and keep contact to kids details only

Keep posting - this board has been my lifeline :)

BeforeAndAfter · 29/03/2012 10:55

Darn autocorrect - "patch of recover" = "path of recovery"

PooPooInMyToes · 29/03/2012 10:55

Chocoraisin. Wow you got pregnant AFTER he started his affair? Im guessing he told the OW that your marriage was long dead and that you no longer had sex? Wonder how he explained that one!

badtasteflump · 29/03/2012 10:56

cwtchy have only just seen this thread but wanted to send you some v un-mn

And to just say that spineless sad little man doesn't deserve you - can't believe he could only dare admit it in a text btw Shock.

You will be fine, in time, you really will. You will look back at this as a difficult and scarey time which actually heralded the start of the rest of your life. He will look back as this as the time he fucked up the rest of his life.

Just take it one day at a time Smile

GnocchiGnocchiWhosThere · 29/03/2012 10:59

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PooPooInMyToes · 29/03/2012 11:00

So sorry this has happened to you op. I second telling everyone he's been having an affair for months.

I would suggest demanding that he go for std checks and then produces the paper work which shows he is clear. For a few reasons . . . To drill home to him that he's put you at risk. To make him aware you know he's been sticking his dick in some manky over woman. To humiliate him. To save you the effort and humiliation of having to go yourself.

Turniphead1 · 29/03/2012 11:13

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NotANaturalGeordie · 29/03/2012 11:16

So sorry. He's an Arsehole.

I have no advice to offer, there's plenty of good advice here for you, but you are in my thoughts and you deserve so much more.

xx

scarletforya · 29/03/2012 11:19

Sad (((cwtchy)))

What a dickhead. I'm so sorry cwtchy, it's dispicable. Please take care of yourself. x

fiventhree · 29/03/2012 11:19

So sorry.

Agree with others- detach and dont protect him from any of the fallout- it will bring him down to earth and he will be living in a nightmare.

Remember this:

  • he deceived you with someone else BEFORE he discussed concerns with you
-he tried to blame the relationship ie it is half of your fault, if not more, is his line
  • he denied an affair when he left, to save his face and reputation, whilst leaving you bewildered
  • he went straight round to OW
  • he deleted the app when he saw he was rumbled, in a panic, whilst he decided next steps
  • he finally confessed, but only because he had to,
  • he did it by text, can you believe, and in the text tried to make himself look like a caring man, when his very actions say the opposite
  • and he isnt giving a real thought to how you might feel at the moment whilst leaving you to look after his house and poor kids whilst picking through the mess alone.

He is a selfish shit, isnt he?

Lets just hope he hasnt spent the intervening weeks sorting out all sorts of financial info to his advantage too.

Do please remember not to trust him- he is currently your enemy, however things pan out.

fiventhree · 29/03/2012 11:25

ps When you have picked yourself up in a few weeks read a couple of books on affairs.

The best one from a research perspective is the Shirley Glass one-just that one chapter on why the OW practically never works out may be a comfort, if you care enough by then.

LiarsWife · 29/03/2012 11:28

Or this article says pretty much the same thing

www.dailymail.co.uk/home/you/article-392312/Can-mistress-successful-wife.html

LiarsWife · 29/03/2012 11:38

Here's the link done properly Blush

www.dailymail.co.uk/home/you/article-392312/Can-mistress-successful-wife.html