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Devastated is an understatement

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redtulip68 · 11/03/2012 10:26

I'm so sorry to hear about your situation Starling. Unfortunately I'm in a very similiar position at the moment. My husband of 12 years left the marital home at 10.05pm last Sunday when myself and our two children were in bed. Not warning, nothing ran out in the night the coward he obviously is. The last week has been hell. i've had to tell the children because he only wanted to do it over the phone or in a pub, not in the safe environment of their home.

Apparently he had met some3one on line that he had connected with emotional - nothig sexual had occurred until after he left, or so he is saying. Over the last week I've heard nothing but lies and more lies. He has left the home in in such a state that part is uninhabitable. Environmental Health have been in contact due to the number of vehicles is has left in the garden, carport and other areas that we own surrounding the property. Since leaving I have found out that my wiring is condemned, the oven and hob are a danger to myself and my children. Cant have a bath unless a plunger is used to get plugs out. Had no hot water, could only have heating on for 30 minutes at a time, only flush toilets if someone contorlled the stop cock. Its been a nightmare. But he is living with someone and 'needing time to think what he needs over' whlst I live with two children in disarray.

Found we didnt have any contents or buildings insurance because he hadnt got round to setting up a new policy, bills were out of control because he hadnt got round to getting new quotes - I would have done it but evey bill was in his name at the time, obviously they arent now! Joint mortgage so thats ok.

Apparently will leave his income in my account for the next three months so I can arrange reapirs - what makes him think I can afford them now he has done? Then I'm to live off benefits - I've already established I'm only entitled to 10.43 per month. This is just so unfair, I really dont understand what I've done. he doesnt understand that our children deserve the truth rather than his web of lies which he now stating - I left beuuase we were arguing, 1 argument one night last week.

Visited children after I arranged it - 1 hour, then spoke to me for 2.5 hours, mean at the state but got better. I asked him to come back explained I still loved him and he said he would seriously think about it. He said that he still loved me but didnt think we could work it out because he has left.

Cant tell my family that I want him home bacuse they cant stand him, but I cant help the way I feel. its been made worse becauseof comments he keeps making on facebook which mean I then have to fiedl emails, messages and calls from joint friends and work colleagues. I know I'm having to do all his dirty work, clearing his stuff because he told me to, making calls left right and centre because that's what I'm expected to do.

refuses to give contactable address and often truns mobile phone off - so even in an emergancy I wouldnt be able to contact him.

cant sleep, havent eaten since our initial argument on 2nd march. i know deep down he isnt coming back but my children are young and own has AS. One hates their father, the other is in limbo becuase of promises father has made and subsequently not kept.

Nothing in my world is the same. I just dont know what I should be saying or feeling. Sick to the stomach of crying on my own. the pain is unbearable.

Please excuse the mistakes its just that really cant think straight. spoke this morning and asked if the comments he made yesterday about coming back were true or yet another one of the catelogue of lies he has told this week. Chidlren are lashing out at each other. But its not helped by their father telling them that he left because I was arguing rather than the truth that he was having an affair. There were several incidents this morning and I made him tell the truth but its still only part - now telling the children he is sharing a house with another woman. I just want to know where we all stand. Not lie after lie

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redtulip68 · 30/03/2012 11:15

STBX calls twice a day to speak to the children and lately I've just started to hung up after he has spoken to them. As for the park - I was in a v ery difficult place as I didnt want to let my DD down when she was obviously having a stressful time.

He has said he will take the DC out on Monday to their favourite place but DD is already complaining that it was 'OUR favourite place as a family not just with Daddy'. She then started to insist that I came along but I've said no, she was really hurt.

He can have his money then there is nothing I owe him.

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mummytime · 30/03/2012 11:51

If you give him money, ask him to sign a receipt.

redtulip68 · 30/03/2012 12:01

Good idea - I've just asked my parents for one tto. I've got evidence vis back and email of payments to other family members. That should go down a treat!

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redtulip68 · 30/03/2012 18:25

And now I'm off out for the first time in nearly two years! I was going to drive but the Tosser that is my STBX made me angry this afternoon when he stated that there is nothing to discuss about our marriage because it is over and I haven't been happy for a long time and I feel in love with OW as soon as I meet her. And whilst you havent done anything to end the marriage I've changed and what something new.

Well bully for you! Shame I nearly died twice during two pregancies just so you could have children within your time frame. Shame I've been a good wife for twelve years. Shame you couldn't hold down a job (he's had five in twelve years because you're a crap employee). Shame I've supported you through all of this and given up any chance I had of promotion because you have problem with women being in charge. Shame on me for allowing you to do all of this to me and our children and shame on you for being the coward you are!

Right off for a wine or three or four or five I think!

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tadjennyp · 30/03/2012 19:25

I hope you have a nice time tulips. In a way he is right. The marriage is over, but at least he agrees the fault is not yours. And you do have your wonderful children. Have fun tonight. Tomorrow is another day.

redtulip68 · 31/03/2012 00:35

Just got back for evening out. Cried most of the time. Seemed strange to be out and seeing so many people enjoying themselves. Went to pub I last went to with STBX for a meal before seeing a singer song writer last year. Everything reminds me of things we either did together or as a family. Yes I know that we are over but somewhere deep in side of me still thinks this is all some horrid nightmare and I will wake up.

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GingerBlondecat · 31/03/2012 06:35

I don't know what to say so I give you

(((Hugs & Wine & Chocolate))) And Thoughts and Prayers if you'll take them.

redtulip68 · 31/03/2012 06:54

Throughout our marriage I have had a reoccurring dream that he would leave me and at least four times a year I would wake during the night crying, and I mean sobbing, or STBX would wake me up to tell me I was sobbing.

He always knew what the dreams were about and he promised me that no matter what happened in the future we could always work things out and that he would never leave me - well so much for promises. I dont know whether its because tomorrow will be four weeks since he left in the night that I'm feeling this way. Four weeks really does feel like a solid period of time and that there really is no turning back now.

I really need to stop contact between us as by speaking every day I'm not moving on and he still has a pull over me. I've been going through finances and contact details so I feel I am getting somewhere, just need him to agree now! Wish me luck.

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BigBirdsFriend · 31/03/2012 07:50

I have just read the whole thread and I think that you are such a strong woman, I know that you don't feel it because the twat that used to be your husband stole your confidence but you are such a good mother!
I just needed to say that and well done for all that you have achieved in four weeks you have turned a chaotic dangerous place into a warm comfortable safe home for your children and given them some much needed calm parenting!
I cannot disagree with anything you have said, you have done such a lot to sort out the horrendous mess he left you three in, ignore his whinging, the ow has probably strted to go off him lol VL is nothing like reality is it!
Thanks and Wine x 20 for you

redtulip68 · 31/03/2012 11:50

Well he arrived 7 minutes late. I made him wait on the door step until the children were ready. I handed over his money ON THE DOOR STEP. He attempted to come into the house but I pushed the door so he had to step backwards.

So off he goes being Contact Dad taking the children to Tescos for lunch. Alternatively he said he might take them for a walk around the shopping centre and they can have a pound to spend! I always said he was tight but my God!

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springydaffs · 31/03/2012 16:15

If that's what contact time with him is like then that's what it's like. You do't have to step in to sweeten the pill. He is a wanker and your kids will get that. I'm not suggesting not sweetenig the pill out of spite but you need to protect yourself/ves: constant contact with him will be keeping you enmeshed with him - and it sounds like you had a very 'enmeshed' quality to your relationship.

Sweetie, I'm so sorry your worst nightmare has happened. Despite all, to be with someone who 'deosn't like women being in charge' and 'falls in love with someone the moment they meet them' is not life-partner material, is not safe in any way. You may not see it but you have a proper chance at life now. At the moment, you may prefer to be with him and all the handicaps that that brought (you will see the handicaps more clearly as time goes on) but you really are better off without.

Freedom Programme! tout suite! It will help you to get your head together, give you a framework to hang your confusion/grief/horror on to.

springydaffs · 31/03/2012 16:16

The Freedom Programme

one near you!

redtulip68 · 31/03/2012 20:03

Another goal achieved put a new single bed on the top of a Renault Scenic! With the help of my Dad I must admit. Drove across a city with it on the top of my car, unloaded it and created a new bedroom for my DS. He loves it He deserves to have a little joy in his life and I'm pleased I could do this for him.

DC came back and complained about that Daddy just walked around the 'holiday shops collecting brochures'. Anyway they saw their Father and it might have been a bit rubblish for them its done now. Hopefully Monday's day out with thier Father will be better for them!

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FidgetPie · 31/03/2012 23:31

I am so impressed that even when you are feeling low you still find the energy to do your DS's bedroom - you are an amazingly strong and loving mum.
(who more than makes up for a disinterested dad). And you are setting a great example to your DCs about resiliance.

I hope your 4 week mark tomorrow is ok and if it isn't remember that there are a lot of us here wishing you the best and reminding you that 'this too will pass'.

redtulip68 · 31/03/2012 23:32

Just found out that the OW my STBX left me for is 57 years old!!!!!!! Thats 15 years older than me! I know that before meeting me he always went out with older women but this is stupid. One of her daughters is just eleven years younger than me. Talk about pulling a Granny, she has got two grandchildren.
Her husband is the same age ads my Mum!

Not sure how I feel about this but is very strange to say the least. I wondered why he laughted when I asked if the OW was pregnant now I know!

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GingerBlondecat · 01/04/2012 04:33

He wants a Sugar DaddyGranny.

WandaDoff · 01/04/2012 05:28

I have just read your whole thread from start to finish & I just wanted to say Bravo

Fuck him. he's a waste of space. You seem to be doing a fantastic job all by yourself.

Your children are very lucky to have you. Smile

redtulip68 · 01/04/2012 08:05

Before meeting my STBX only ever went ut with older women. Obviously I was some form of breeding mare - two children within two years! I'm wondering if this is some form of mother fixation. Very poor relationship with his own mother who ended up committing suicide about 4 years ago, prior to that she had akways suffered from MH problems having been sections several times.

She has been married for 37 years! I think I could understand the OW being younger than me or even the same age but older puts a really different view on it. Its making think that there is something wrong with me that he can message, email, call and finally met at 57 year old woman (only met her once apparently on the Friday before he left) and instantly fell in love. It makes no sense. Confused

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MadAboutHotChoc · 01/04/2012 08:12

There is nothing wrong with you.

I think you are spot on though that his choice of OW reflects his own issues - he is looking for a substitute mother. Pretty sad really.

This illustrates the fact that affairs are usually about the cheater's own issues.

fiventhree · 01/04/2012 09:15

Agree with Madabout, Redtulip.

Its helpful to you, though, to have confirmed that this is not about you, but about his and his issues.

He has a mother fixation because he has never dealt with his 'child' self. And he still isnt.

You could never have dealt with this, whilst having children to parent yourself, and rightly looking to him to as a co adult, parent and partner.

redtulip68 · 01/04/2012 13:46

What a horrible day. Just lost it with DD all because I didn't help her sort her books at the exact moment she wanted because I was doing laundry in the garden. She was screaming that noone loves her, how she hates me and wishes I was dead. She hit and kicked me screamed in my face. i ignored her outsie and tried my best to do the same inside until I could take no more. More her into her room made he sit down then as she kicked me a shouted back. Four weeks without me shouting and I had to fail. Broke down in tears. He is doing nothing has a OW with no responsibilities and I'm getting everything.

Unfortunately this is a daily occurrance with DD behaviour. If its not me she is kicking its her brother she is punching, pinching, scratching slapping etc. AAARRRGGG

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ThePinkPussycat · 01/04/2012 13:58

Tis ok redtulip honestly. You are all under a lot of strain. It won't do anyone any harm to discover that things can kick off a bit, and then things calm down again and life continues. Have some hugs from me, and I expect you have already hugged DD? Does DS do hugs?

tadjennyp · 01/04/2012 17:06

So sorry redtulip. Give yourself a break. You are finding out more stuff every day and it is tough going. Give your dd a hug and then yourself one.

redtulip68 · 01/04/2012 17:56

My folks have just left and I always put on a happy face whilst they are here but now they have gone I just feel so low again. I moved my bed about an hour ago and found our wedding memory box. It was full of photos, cards, copies of our vows, receipts for hotels, honeymoon, reception and letters. It was full of so many promises for the future and it would appear none were really ever to come true.

Today is four weeks since he left our home and it has been the hardest period of my life so far. I just feel like this is all too much. My DS hugs me and tells me he love me and I know that he does but he is not his Father and that is who I really want to come home. I feel so alone at the moment. Sad

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springydaffs · 01/04/2012 18:24

Keep going sweetheart. You've got to go through grief, there's no way around it Pace yourself, give it a day at a time...

what larks eh with those two? Hmm Two very fucked up individuals - I dread to think tbh. It's very very clear that this has nothing to do with you. He sounds quite horrid and also quite insane.

I'm the poster you are assiduously ignoring about the Freedom Programme (Wink). I'd also look at booking some counselling somewhere along the line - I think you're going to need it with this insane guy subjecting you to goodness knows what. Gosh, he really does sound horrid.

Anyway, you're not alone, we're here (not want you want but not bad...)

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