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Big fight with DP, still a little shaken

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SoggyGingerBiscuit · 16/01/2012 11:30

I'll try and shorten a long story but basically saturday night DP and I ended up arguining as I'd arranged to go out with friends and he was looking forward to spending the child-free evening with me. I didn't realise he was looking forward to it or I wouldn't have booked it but by then it was too late to cancel my plans so we argued over it before finally he stormed out and went to the gym.

He came back around 6pm and the children had gone by this time (to their dad) and he asked if I'd reconsidered the evening. I said I hadn't and was still going and it erupted into another argument where he said I was selfish and never think about him and he's always bottom of my list of priorities (untrue) so anyway he walked over to me and shouted in my face "Do you the fuck you want, you always do anyway". So I told him I wasn't discussing it further with him until he'd calmed down. He then grabbed me by the arm and dragged me from the kitchen into the living room saying "go on then, fuck off, go and get ready, less I see of you right now the better anyway" etc. and he was really hurting my arm and in panic I lashed out and hit him in the face.

We both stopped, I was mortified and gobsmacked and he just looked at me. I said I was sorry and hadn't mean to actually hit him and he stormed up to me forcing me to back into the wall (although he didn't actually touch me) and snarled at me "don't ever hit me again". I've never seen him so angry and close to losing control and was actually quite frightened, he's a big bloke (6ft 4) and it was intimidating. he said then "do you understand?" I nodded and he said "get out of my fucking sight" so I went upstairs. Had a good cry, came down about 20 minutes later to apologise again and explained that I hadn't meant to hit him, it was a reflect and he said "well lets hope I don't start getting mad reflexes then". I got a bit cross because the fact that he'd dragged me around by arm before this seemed to have been forgotten so I said "you're not 100% innocent in this either" and he absolutely lost it and started saying stuff like "so I take it it's ok for us to hit each other when we're pissed off then?" he then grabbed me, knocked me onto the sofa and pinned me down and raised his fist as if he was going to punch me in the face. I screamed and begged him to stop. He got off me and I ran upstairs. He came up a few minutes later and I screamed at him to leave me alone and he said he was so sorry and had gone too far and that he'd never hurt me.

Anyway long story short I was just so glad it had all stopped I let him hug me and we 'kissed and made up' but I cant let it go. I was so frightened when he did that and its made me wonder how far hed go. I admit I should never have hit him, I know that so I kind of feel that I can't play little miss innocent on it all either. Is it just a 50/50 thing that I should accept and move on from?

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PattiMayor · 16/01/2012 20:24

I can see her Crabby, you're not looking hard enough.

StewieGriffinsMom · 16/01/2012 20:25

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flippinada · 16/01/2012 20:29

Bloody hell @ some of the comments on this thread.

Soggy, if you're still reading, please get rid of this awful, awful man.

singingprincess · 16/01/2012 20:30

How many times!!!!!!

It is NOT ABOUT LOSING TEMPER, IT'S ABOUT CONTROL!

Why won't this go in?

Youllbewaiting · 16/01/2012 20:33

Does the Ops children's father know this is going on?
I wouldn't want my children to be around if it happened again

ArtexMonkey · 16/01/2012 20:35

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fuzzynavel · 16/01/2012 20:36

What are you shouting for Singing?

Losing a bit of control?

I'm all for non abuse etc. but everyone just jumps on some sort of band wagon on here and ends up egging each other on till everyone thinks the man is satan.

CrabbyBigbottom · 16/01/2012 20:37

Nice Patti - really nice. Hmm

flippinada · 16/01/2012 20:37

What Artex, Princess, Basil and SGM have said, basically (because there isn't an MN 'like' or 'I agree' button or similar).

PattiMayor · 16/01/2012 20:45

You are a DV apologist Crabby. You might not like to think of yourself of one, but you are. If you think that's an insult, I suggest you review the OP and then your responses.

fuzzynavel · 16/01/2012 20:46

It escalated when she hit him. Read it again and stop tagging on to each other hoping to come up with the most alarming exaggerated comments.

Sometimes this site gets right on my tits Sad

Lovecat · 16/01/2012 20:47

I'm quite frankly appalled by the posters on this thread saying that this is the OP's fault and he just 'lost his temper' and had a right to behave the way he did because she struck out in self defence.

What the hell sort of relationships are you in that you think this behaviour is normal or in any way excusable?

Don't you value yourselves higher than that?

And what is it that makes you want to persuade/shame another woman into staying with someone who can behave like this and minimising their appalling behaviour? Does doing otherwise mean you might have to consider your own situation in the light of the 'A' word? If so, then I'm truly sorry for you, but don't seek to normalise abuse. Because, OP, if you're still here, this is not normal behaviour and you do NOT have to put up with it.

Hope you're ok.

PattiMayor · 16/01/2012 20:50

Are you saying it was okay for him to grab her and her her and drag her through the house, fuzzy? Because that's what your post reads like. Do you think she deserved that for going out when he wanted her to stay in?

It escalated because he grabbed her really hard by the arm, hurting her, and dragged her into another room. Not because she hit him because he was hurting her

CrabbyBigbottom · 16/01/2012 20:53

Yep, I've re-read my posts, Patti (did you actually read all my posts?), and I don't see where I am a DV apologist.

fuzzynavel · 16/01/2012 20:54

What the hell sort of relationships are you in that you think this behaviour is normal or in any way excusable?

Don't you value yourselves higher than that?

Ummm, I value myself very highly thank you very much. I'm just not as black and white as some on here. People do loose their temper, rarely, but it happens.

I'm also in a good relationship.

I'm just not one of the screaming leave him brigade.

ArtexMonkey · 16/01/2012 20:56

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fuzzynavel · 16/01/2012 20:56

He didn't "drag her through the house" though did he. In my book he was so bloody cross that she struck him that he pulled her into the next room and shoved her on the sofa.

Now, if she had said he pulled her by the hair from one end of the house to the other, then I would be screaming leave him.

ArtexMonkey · 16/01/2012 20:59

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Sparks1 · 16/01/2012 20:59

The OP's partner has acted in a disgraceful manner and personally i think she should leave him.

Not just for the abuse ( and that's what it is ) but also because it's quite clear there is no mutual respect between them.

On a side note. It never ceases to amaze me with the over the top assumptions and reactions on this board. Aggressively posting with capitals doesn't strengthen a posters argument it weakens it. (I'm not just on about this thread)

And worse than that a hysterical nature weakens the fight against DV. Stick to reasoned and controlled debate and the message that DV is unacceptable might just get through. Unless you stick to the salient points and fact all credibility is lost.

StewieGriffinsMom · 16/01/2012 20:59

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tallwivglasses · 16/01/2012 21:00

Can someone tell me what the OP was supposed to do while she was being sworn at and dragged from one room to another?

Just so she knows for next time, like.

fuzzynavel · 16/01/2012 21:01

what would you all have said if he told her he would probably see him but avoided it due to wanting to go with with mates, and leaving it till the last minute therefore hurting her emotions, You'd all call him a bastard wouldnt you and probably say that he couldn't care that much about her so she should leave him?

PattiMayor · 16/01/2012 21:02

Yep, I've read all your posts crabby. And I think you accept standards of behaviour that I, and no one in a relationship, should ever accept.

This isn't a 'one off', this is someone who sat stewing downstairs while the OP was sobbing upstairs and then when she came down and apologised, attacked her again. I'm not sure at what point you consider it to be DV but the DP's partner crossed a line right from the off.

And I will ask you the same question I asked fuzzy in my previous post: "Are you saying it was okay for him to grab her and her her and drag her through the house? Because that's what your post reads like. Do you think she deserved that for going out when he wanted her to stay in?"

PattiMayor · 16/01/2012 21:04

I would say he was a being a bit of a thoughtless git, fuzzy. But that doesn't legitimise getting physical. Not ever.

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