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Found a file saved on Partner's PC

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TwoPeasOnePod · 12/01/2012 11:15

OK. This happened on 31st dec, been thinking about posting since then to get opinions, seeing as I can't seem to break out of the numb feeling to form one of my own. I am 25, have 2 DD's under 5 with my partner,been together about 7 years now. I am 29 weeks pregnant with our third child. We live together.

Looking through the files hes recently downloaded, whilst he was walking around in the background feeding kids etc,so I wasnt being sneaky, I noticed some general porn saved (an orgy one and a nurse-themed one) He knows it pisses me off, so I deleted them and had a bit of a whinge (not a HUGE deal to me, as our sex life is pretty non-existent due to my anaemia/seem to bleed easily after sex/hip pain)
so a 'normal' wank to a bit of vanilla porn is the best of a shitty deal to me, I feel I cant stop him using it.
Carried on randomly looking, and saw two quite different films saved that hes downloaded- one was titled something like hot german Teenager fisting, and the other was called Real Drugged Rape.
I clicked on it to see what the actual fuck it was, and as the title suggests, it appeared to me to be a young (18 to 20 at a guess) Asian woman in the back of a car, VERY drowsy/almost unconscious, being fondled/exposed/touched by some older man, filming on what appeared to be shaky handheld camera.

I skipped through it, saw a few seconds of the woman face down being raped etcetera. All of which is BURNED into my fucking memory. It pops into my head constantly, it is making me ill with stress.I felt like i was genuinley going to faint, due to shock i think, and utter, utter disgust. And I asked my partner to come and explain it. He said he "downloaded it out of curiosity" and when asked if he finds it in ANY WAY WHATSOEVER a turn-on, he vehemently denied that it is, likening it to watching executions etc that are real and available online (I didn't know he would watch that either!!) I didnt really look at the fisting one, but its the same category, relatively young woman being used and violated.

I said to him that even if the rape one isn't a film of a 'real' rape, the fantasy of raping a very young woman WHO IS FUCKING DRUGGED (or acting?! how the fuck can you know for sure) is completely wrong to me, as a mother if two DDs I cannot tolerate a person who would even look at it just out of curiosity, much less select it, download it, and then keep it. He apologised and said he is stupid, didnt 'think'.

Despite the fact he says he gets nothing sexual out of it, I am obviously not believing that. Why the fuck else would he download it? (thats a genuine question, I cant think of any other reason why, and the resulting congnitive dissonance is making me ill. I dont want to believe it is true, because it will make the imminent birth of my child etc very hard if Im alone.)

So, from a feminist point of view (am trying to use that as an approach to my life, have very low self esteem too) I am thinking I should remove him from mine and my DDs presence, I feel THAT strongly about it. He is otherwise a lovely-seeming person, a bit cold and robotic sometimes but funny, warm, and has what I would previously have described as vanilla tastes re porn, sex etc. He says fisting is normal? I didnt think so, but dont really know in terms of general acceptability.
He certainly hasnt tried to hide it as such,knowing I have free access to his PC, just dont use it. He didnt expect me to fidn it though.Also found that in the fortnight before Xmas he has joined a dating site and a 'sex in the UK' site. When I confronted him, he says it was curiosity again Hmm and he would never actually cheat, just clicked links and had a nosy.........

I feel like a total twat, due to give birth soon, and obviously at some point he is probably going to fuck me over. Current emotional situation is totally numb. I havent done anything or said anything conclusive to him about the whole thing because in the past I slept with someone else once, and so am battling with remaining objective. Because till now he hasnt put a foot wrong that I know of. I cannot believe how vulnerable he has made me feel.

Sorry for length of post but trying not to drip feed.

OP posts:
Fregley · 24/01/2012 17:00

With a solicitor? No. I have of dealing with illegal images though

Fregley · 24/01/2012 17:01

Experience. Bloody iPad

ThatVikRinA22 · 24/01/2012 17:01

spendit - i will double check that as im in work tonight - id love it to be illegal - but at the moment i dont think rape porn is and there is a clause that means that anything from outside the uk is not covered by the law....
interesting article here from rape crisis....

read here

but i will double check on this - just to be sure im not giving out duff info.

AnyFucker · 24/01/2012 17:07

OP, your shock and horror at finding out that your partner uses simulated or otherwise rape porn to get off to is understood by many of us on this thread, and we don't feel you should have to actually keep having to explain why that has set off a most almighty fucking bomb in your marriage

Anybody who still tries to discount that is doing some pretty obvious rationalising of their own and/or their empathy pool is running very fucking low for a variety of reasons I would be very reluctant to speculate further on

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izzyskungheifatchoy · 24/01/2012 17:16

You have not given out any duff info relating to the law Vicar, and neither have I.

Bossybritches22 · 24/01/2012 18:12

I think possibly the discussion about the legalities/acceptability of porn of whatever variety is irrelevant here TBH and just upsetting to the OP.

If it's a dealbreaker in her book then so be it, many of us agree with her, some don't.

The matter now is how Twopeas decides to deal with it and that is up to her we can only offer support, and I suggest heckling her or arguing the toss ('scuse the pun) is unhelpful.

ArtyV · 24/01/2012 18:23

Just pop down the police station with the computer and let them make the decision. If it is illegal then he deserves everything he gets. If not then they will do nothing and he won't know you reported it.

I think the OP deserves a more well rounded set of advice that she is being given on here. it is all good and well to support a fellow feminist but I think some posters have some serious bitterness and hatred towards men that will give twopeas a warped view of this issue.

Hormonegranger was a bit off the cuff but that still doesn't mean her message doesn't have a place here. The deletion of her post just suggests that anything other than the "all men are bastards" mantra is officially banned here. Pathetic

My suggestion is that maybe the DH has some latent anger towards women, given that his wife had an affair and now won't have sex with him. At least he takes it out on his keyboard with a quick hand shandy than being abusive and aggressive...?

I too am highly suspicious of his motives now he is being nice to his wife and trying to build bridges. he is definitely up to something.....

Bossybritches22 · 24/01/2012 18:39

ArtyV Hormonegranger was a bit off the cuff but that still doesn't mean her message doesn't have a place here. The deletion of her post just suggests that anything other than the "all men are bastards" mantra is officially banned here. Pathetic

The deleted post was offensive to the OP and inflammatory. No-one is saying ALL men are bastards, but twopeas STBE is in the front running.

Like I said If it's a dealbreaker in her book then so be it, many of us agree with her, some don't

I don't think she has a warped view of the situation at all, I think she is being very measured considering her stage in pregnancy when she could be forgiven for being a hormonal harpie if she is feeling unwell.

I agree with you on one thing though something is brewing. Confused

KristineRackabusi · 24/01/2012 19:24

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AnyFucker · 24/01/2012 19:27

kristine...wtf are you talking about ?

if a man was offered sex on a plate with a drugged victim he would take it ?

really ?

KristineRackabusi · 24/01/2012 19:30

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singingprincess · 24/01/2012 19:35

Kristine...you need to socialise in different pubs.

elvisaintdead · 24/01/2012 19:36

Kristine, I don't know about the men you know but I know plenty of decent ones - all men, like all women are different and they don't all behave the same way.

OP, I have not read the whole thread but have you been able to speak with anyone else? Relate or something similar? Somwhere you can talk through how you are feeling in real life and get some advice and support?

singingprincess · 24/01/2012 19:38

And were these "men even old enough to be in a pub? That sounds like teenage bravado.

Molasses · 24/01/2012 19:53

Studies put it at about 35% of men would rape if they could get away with it. Or was that just the one study (on college aged males in America in the 80s)? - will try to locate.

mathanxiety · 24/01/2012 19:56

Sorry, I got to the point of two days ago and then had to post -- please fish the computer out of the cupboard, have the hard drive removed or remove it yourself, and put it away for safe keeping, maybe in a bank safe deposit box. Take Olympia's advice and cover your ass so that when (not If) it all goes tits up and you want full custody and to limit access you will have evidence to back up your request. He put the computer away in order to one day quietly destroy the evidence.

My exH did the pube shaving, chest shaving, looking at and then joining dating sites. I found out about the dating sites after I found all sorts of porn, including gay porn. The shaving was a red flag. My exH vehemently disagreed with the idea that if a woman changed her mind after sex had started then continuing was rape. Hard to pin him down as to what the start of sex was... Acceptance of the 'male right to sex' is an indication that a man is not relationship material imo.

Molasses · 24/01/2012 19:57

*In a survey of college men, 35% anonymously admitted they would commit rape if they knew they could get away with it. (Journal of Social Issues, 1981)

From here www.ciucares.com/sexual_assault_info.htm and various other places.

That was way before internet porn as well. Oh dear.

mathanxiety · 24/01/2012 19:59

'Those who profit from pornography may be many things but they are rarely stupid enough to transgress the laws of any country in which they make and or market their wares.'

I disagree. There are untold millions pocketed by organised crime in the peddling of porn from the most 'vanilla' to the most debased and horrific. The scale of the business is akin to the drug trade.

'German' could be any white individuals anywhere, from Vladivostok to Vancouver.

AnyFucker · 24/01/2012 20:00

college men

I don't know any "college" men...I certainly wouldn't be asking their opinion about sexual matters

I presume a rather large percentage of those "college" men will grow up to be decent family men who would never rape a drugged woman, even if it was "on a plate" (whatever that means)

KristineRackabusi · 24/01/2012 20:18

I'm not sure why you've put college in inverted commas, if you were implying they were boys still then it would be; college "men".

You presume right - decent family men of which a proven 35% would commit a rape if they could get away with it. Imagine how that would increase if it was legal.

Truly horrifying

AnyFucker · 24/01/2012 20:28

"College men" implies a US study, so up to 18yo

not "men" , boys

there is not one man in my inner circle who would rape a drugged woman

I am sure within certain cohorts there is a high percentage of men that would, given the chance which yes is very horrifying

the point is though, to get back to it again the bloke we are talking about here is a so-called decent family man

using skewed stats to say "well, a third of all men would do it given the chance anyway" serves to excuse IMO

so out of me and my 3 friends, one of our DH's would rape a drugged woman...no

SolpadeineMaxed · 24/01/2012 20:28

'I think the OP deserves a more well rounded set of advice that she is being given on here. it is all good and well to support a fellow feminist but I think some posters have some serious bitterness and hatred towards men that will give twopeas a warped view of this issue.

Hormonegranger was a bit off the cuff but that still doesn't mean her message doesn't have a place here. The deletion of her post just suggests that anything other than the "all men are bastards" mantra is officially banned here. Pathetic'

ArtyV - I applaud you for saying what a lot of other people are thinking, myself included. It's about time someone said this.

AnyFucker · 24/01/2012 20:29

and really, if you were to search some of my other MN conversations today (and other days) I get called names like "man basher" and "man hating" so I am not naively sticking up for all men, believe me

HopeEternal · 24/01/2012 20:35

AF, actually as it's an American study college means university. The age range would be 18 - 22.

When I moved to the UK it took me quite a while for the penny to drop that over here college is 16 - 18.

KristineRackabusi · 24/01/2012 20:35

" "College men" implies a US study, so up to 18yo "

Are you serious? College in the USA is the equivalent to University in the UK, so 18+.

You're right - the DH in this case is a decent family man. Or was, until he became infatuated with perverse acts such as fisting and rape. Now he's little better than an animal

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