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Eeek...I'm 39 & pregnant by 30 yr old man I met a month ago : /

140 replies

moonowl · 06/01/2012 00:37

I know, I know. It seemed like a good idea at the time. I have 2 older kids but have been single 10 years. I fancied him like mad & it was flattering & fun to let myself give into temptation. I convinced myself we had enough in common to make a go of it, but we don't really know each other. He's still keen & very much wants the baby, but I'm now realising I haven't really thought this through. He's had a difficult past, and though he's honest & listens to me & respects what I want, it's obvious he still has major problems in life which he's not really facing up to. He's got petty convictions, drinks & gambles and had a very poor education. However he also keeps an allotment, cooks, plays chess, does really difficult card tricks & is good at maths. It's like there are two sides to him, the rough, hard image he wants people to see (for protection?), and the sensitive, nervous, thoughtful & emotionally needy side. (He has said I make him feel calm & he wants me to help take him away from his old life.) I suppose I sympathise & feel sorry for him, as I went through a very hard time at his age, but I'm also feeling like this might be way too much for me to take on. I got myself into this & I did want another baby before it's too late, so I feel I owe him respect in some form. He also has 3 kids from two previous relationships, which he told me straight away (he always tells me everything I ask, even when he's worried it might make me hate him). This obviously complicates things too. We were still sleeping together til about a week ago, but I must have got pregnant around the first time. I've called a break while I get my head together, and now away from the excitement & warm fuzzy feelings it's really starting to dawn on me what I'm taking on. My ex & my kids know, as I don't believe in lying or hiding things & the kids are overjoyed about the baby. The ex is a little disgruntled but being ok. Should I stay away from him (saw him yesterday & he got really clingy & wanted me back), or try & make things work. He keeps saying he'll support me & give me money even if we're not together, but in reality I may well end up supporting him emotionally (I never give him money, we each pay for our own stuff which we both prefer) & running the risk of him constantly wanting to get back together. Thoughts?

OP posts:
weevilswobble · 06/01/2012 09:31

We have a tendency to want to plan and control more as we get older, i think, so i reckon just chill, dont look too far ahead, get stuck in, be POSITIVE, keep smiling! You'll be fine! But stop over analysising. (sp?)

Xmasbaby11 · 06/01/2012 09:47

It's a bit early on to be telling people and making any major decisions. Let the dust settle for a couple of weeks to contemplate such a major life change.

loosyloo · 06/01/2012 10:06

OP it looks like you will have a lovely baby in 9 months and so congratulations. Confused Poor child

cestlavielife · 06/01/2012 10:11

you are 39 and only just pregnant - wait til first scans to see what you actually dealing with, given the risks associated with older mothers.

you could miscarry anyway.

you could be having a baby with high risk of chromosome disorder given your age and may need to think about tough decisions.

cut contact with this man for now and wait til you gone 12 weeks and had first scans, nuchal test etc to see what kind of reality this really is.

if you want a baby go for it - be preapred to take wahtever challenges come your way
but make sure you have strength and support from family/friends to be able to go it alone and deal with the father who from his record doesnt look good on paper...

YuleingFanjo · 06/01/2012 10:16

WTF!?

"you are 39 and only just pregnant - wait til first scans to see what you actually dealing with, given the risks associated with older mothers.

you could miscarry anyway."

Seriously OP, don't leave it to 'fate'. The 'increased risk' of miscarriage or chromosonal disorder is actually not huge. You would be better off dealing with this as early as possible than waiting to see if you miscarry because you are old.

and once again, WTF!?

dubaipieeye · 06/01/2012 10:24

Double arf at Bluddy - you are my new MN crush.

BecauseImperfect · 06/01/2012 10:25

All that she wants is another baby. She's gone tomorrow boy.

Sound familiar op? Sounds like youve been fucking with people's lives for your own ends.

Helltotheno · 06/01/2012 10:55

OP you wanted another baby so congratulations on going after what you want and getting it. Isn't that what we're all advised to do, follow our dreams!?

Now that the horse has bolted, I would be advising you to keep the chap in your life but only in a friends capacity. It's best if he's in his child's life no matter what, and if you play your cards right, you'll have an amicable relationship from the start, but you should be the one in control and not have him living with you etc as I couldn't see that one working out longterm.

Agree with the others, you shared the news far too early.

TheTruthNothingButTheTruth · 06/01/2012 11:07

Met an uneducated criminal who gambles and drinks and etc etc a month ago, decided to have unprotected sex with him ? Are you for real ?

Get yourself tested first.

You sound like you were desperate for a baby and were ready to shag anything that moves to have one.

Have the baby, its unfair on the child inside to terminate it, it cant be held responsible for your behaviour. But, dont expect that convict to stay around and help out, he will be gone tomorrow charming someone else with his tricks and maths and some chess.

BecauseImperfect · 06/01/2012 11:24

Follow your dreams go out and get it?

Jesus fucking Christ it's a child not a car.

Op has behaved disgracefully. If you read the part of the op izzy quoted, I'm on my phone. This was very much deliberate.

If the op is serious she should have thought more of the child and acted her age. She wanted another baby before it was too late. Fuck the child and their interests, screw how anyone else in the family felt. As long as op got her dream.

Jesus some women.

loosyloo · 06/01/2012 11:32

Have the baby, its unfair on the child inside to terminate it,

once i would have agreed with you, but having seen what people are capable of doing to their children, I have changed my mind

susiedaisy · 06/01/2012 11:41

What on earth have you told your kids for at most your only a few weeks pregnant sorry op but I think you've been irresponsible tbh and I would seriously consider not continuing with this pregnancy and get rid of the new man-child and sort out your contraception!!

susiedaisy · 06/01/2012 11:43

When I say 'man-child' I am referring to the immature new boyfriend, just wanted to clarify this!

JenaiMarrHePlaysGuitar · 06/01/2012 12:47

Good grief.

OP, you are the same age as me and I too would love to have a baby (ain't gonna happen unless I ditch DP and get upduffed by some randomer; for my son's sake I'm not prepared to do that). I do have some sympathy for you though, and it's not as if you're breaking up the family home to go "after what you want" (really Hellto ? This is a potential person we're talking about here, not a bloody trip of a lifetime to South America
or a PhD. I digress)

But lets look at the evidence. This man, by 30, already has two children by two different women. This in itself isn?t a Bad Thing necessarily, but it does suggest that he clearly knows about the birds and the bees. Given this and the fact he already has children for whom he is responsible, he goes on to have unprotected sex with a woman he barely knows. I assume he knew you weren?t using contraception ? or did you lie to him?

You describe him as ?needy? ? that?s not a plus point. He has drink and gambling issues ? not great.

Out of interest, why is he no longer with either of the women he had children with before?

It sounds like you?re having a midlife crisis tbh. I really do understand wanting another baby before it?s too late and I honestly do hope that it all turns out well for you. But please, please be more careful than you have been already.

cuteboots · 06/01/2012 14:02

hmmm! Not sure why youve announced it to your kids so early but then thats just me. I had my 8 year old little boy with a man who had similar habits i.e drinking and other stuff and hes turned out to be a total nightmare. He deffo didnt have a allotment!! so I would suggest really just being friends with this dude until you sort things out . Not a good idea having unprotected sex either but these things happen and I hope you sort it out. Good luck

Helltotheno · 06/01/2012 14:02

Follow your dreams go out and get it? Jesus fucking Christ it's a child not a car.

Relax, I was being ironic Wink

Flanelle · 06/01/2012 14:21

A moment or two of weakness. Understandable. You're now trying very hard to put and keep everything in the best light in your own mind - and others'. Also understandable. I feel a lot more sympathetic than a lot of posters do, but I still share their reservations about long term prospects for this relationship.

Please don't try and rescue him. You can't do it. Rescue yourself. Think things through now, properly and honestly.

I always think abortion is two wrongs not making a right, but understand that I'm in the minority in this, so will just say to you that you have several options at this point. I'd keep the baby but not the bloke, though of course I would give him every opportunity to be a proper dad and co-parent, because that's the right thing to do, in my mind.

Don't compound things by taking on this chess and gardening prodigy right now. If things are going to work out for you with him then they have a better chance of working out slowly.

HereIGo · 06/01/2012 14:58

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Madreamer · 06/01/2012 14:59

I did something similar and have a 20 month old DS. I've had to deal with his dad very firmly (harshly even) and impose strong boundaries and behaviours as I want him to be a good role model for DS. I have to do this as I'm wracked with guilt over the father I have given him and have a responsibility to try to fix the situation. Ex does not have any other kids and has strong motivation to be a family unit, so may eventually work although I am not pinning ANY hopes on this. in the interim he does not have PR and has access for short periods only (often) to protect from the possibility of him asking for 50:50 access and then setting a poor example for DS.

We all do stupid things from time to time and the worst bit is when someone else pays the price for it. :(

SillyOldBear01 · 06/01/2012 15:09

I'm in tears at this thread, difficult card tricks!!??

SillyOldBear01 · 06/01/2012 15:11

The yearning for another is horrible in consumes everything and makes every passing pg woman or newborn a cry worthy sight.

Tbh you would be better of without this bloke.

Catslikehats · 06/01/2012 15:15

Yep crunch Best. Comment. Ever. Grin

moonowl · 06/01/2012 15:20

Thanks everyone : )

Happy to see such a balanced response, some positive some negative, but all pretty fair. Plus a few laughs which I needed!

One thing, he's not on drugs so doesn't use needles. Its 'just' alcohol & the occasional spliff. Also he's not in any debt as he does actually do quite well with the gambling (I absolutely don't approve of any of this & he knows that, but its a little harder to convince someone of this when they are doing ok cash-wise) He keeps his winnings put by for rainy days & does pay regularly towards his other kids, and sees them several times a week.

As for me telling my kids, they knew I was seeing him, they've met him & they are 11 & 15 so they understand about things like the possibility of a miscarriage. I have an open & honest relationship with them, obviously I don't tell them everything, but I don't believe in hiding important stuff from them.

Anyway, now I've given up drinking I've realised I don't like him so much when he drinks, cos that's when the bravado comes out & it gets on my nerves. I don't and would never feel at any risk from him, I know lots of his friends & acquaintances & I know there's never been the remotest rumour that he's ever treated a woman badly or hit her. He obviously does have self control, but usually ends up getting into bother either intervening or protecting friends (quite often women) who get themselves in trouble. I think he likes to think it earns him some kind of respect as a 'protector', or maybe that's just an excuse.

Its funny, there's that classic perception that some women fall pregnant deliberately to trap a man. In this case I think its the opposite. I think he desperately wanted it to last forever with the other two, & thought giving them babies would seal the deal. But it didn't work out: one got pregnant by someone else & left, the other left him because her parents didn't approve, going off with them after her dad beat up my bloke & threw him down the stairs. (Her family are slightly scary). I think he just really wants to be loved & thinks having a kid with someone will make them love him.

Trouble is, he's getting more & more clingy & I can't see him to talk to without him being all over me & trying to get me into bed. I now understand the sentiment that desperate is not attractive. I did & still do fancy him but if I give in it will be like opening the floodgates & he will want me there all the time. I have a life & kids, I can't really do that teenage thing of staying in bed shagging all day, fun as that might be!

I know I can make boundaries & stick to them, but I'm not sure he can. I think this is reflected in his constant seeking of some kind of buzz & his nervous manner, he finds it really hard to just calm down & relax.

I wish I could give him some sense of security (which he refuses even to admit he needs) without having to become his saviour & possibly do an 'Eliza Dolittle' in him as well, so he has more chance of fitting in with my 'posher' friends. (They're not that posh, but he is very working class & dare I say it, chavvy. Not that I have a problem with that, I can just foresee potential problems & crossed wires).

Yeah, the answer is probably to take it slow, keep boundaries & make sure he doesn't get any more hurt. I really hope he learns from this & finds the love of his life to form a healthy relationship with, I'm just not certain it can be me.

I've got a few more weeks to decide about the baby, but its on my mind that I got heavily pressured into an abortion when I was 20 & always regretted it. I kind of think whatever problems arise we can find a way round them, but an abortion is so final, and I know that kind of regret is really hard to live with.

OP posts:
Earlybird · 06/01/2012 15:22

How will you manage financially if you have the baby?

lovelydogs · 06/01/2012 15:24

He'll be good at parties with his Really Difficult card tricks! Good with Maths homework too!

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