Is a snog considered being unfaithful in a long term relationship?

[waitingfornaru]

Or not?

I don't see how your partner snogging someone can be compared to a child kissing granny. Unless granny slips them the tongue. Just how liberal do you want to be, Clarry?

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It depends on the couple and their rules.

With my XH I had been out for a night with some friends, came back and told him how one of them had been really jealous because I'd ended up snogging another, he was already in bed but sat up and asked for more. (It wasn't why we split up BTW!) I think he'd have been happier for me to go further than I would have done.

If in Clarry's real or imaginary relationship, both of them agree that snogging others and (somewhat redundantly) keeping secrets about those interactions are acceptable - and both feel that neither has the right to object or feel hurt when this happens, then that is fine, as long as the recipients of the various snogs are kept in the picture and told that Clarry and his/her partner are free spirits who do not attach any currency or importance to what has happened.

What puzzles me though Clarry is that your posts only mention women's sexual jealousy, as though men are not capable of feeling insecurity, hurt or much the same feelings as anyone else if their expectations of fidelity aren't met, or their trust is shattered.

How very odd.

It is definitely infidelity, and I would feel incredibly hurt if my partner snogged someone else.

I got a bit carried away while drunk a while ago and snogged someone while my partner was there. He was fuming, really narked off for a few days. I feel awful for hurting him, but thankfully he's forgiven me.

I've really cut down on my drinking now. I can't really blame the drink, but the only time I do stupid stuff is if I'm drunk.

So from my experience, you can continue a relationship after a snog, but it is still a big deal.

"The whole secrecy thing is a nonsense too. We may do things that we feel perfectly fine with but also know our partner, who is perhaps less open minded or prone to jealousy, may find upsetting and so decide not to say anything. It does not make the initial act wrong or indeed the choice to keep quiet."

Clarry, are you for real? You must be very young.

You are again, mixing up CONTROL with intimacy. How do you not get that this is hiding your essential self from another person, and therefore you are not in an intimate relationship? That you might FEAR showing your essential self to another person is another matter, but to outline the hidden, passive aggressive behaviour above and think it justified.... are you SURE?

Yes. It is the beginning of landing up in bed with someone, or the beginning of an EA.

I agree that the so-called 'drunken friendly snog' does need to signal the end of a marriage, but I would seriously question the motives of anyone who was habitually in the habit of getting drunk and having 'friendly snogs' with either random strangers or friends/colleagues. It's at best immature and at worst, the top of a very steep slippery slope.

'habitually in the habit'

Gawd, I'm on fire this morning.