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Husband obsessed with watching porn (on his own) - am I being unreasonable?

196 replies

Tiredoutmum · 12/11/2011 17:00

Hi mums (and dads)

This is an awkward thing to talk to my close friends about, since they all know my husband really well, so I'm hoping some of you out there can help me get my head straight on this.

My husband enjoys watching porn - some hard core I understand - but nothing too deviant (no animals, young girls etc). He does this on the internet, upstairs in our loft room (which he uses as a study), and usually when I've gone to bed or I'm out for the evening.

We have discussed this before because I've been a bit uncomfortable about it, and he says it's just because my libido can't keep up with his, and since he's not the type to go and have an affair or find a prostitute, this is his way of 'scratching the itch'. He's tried to explain that for men, the sexual need is a very physical one and you have to kind of let it out otherwise you get really pent up and frustrated. And because he's not particularly imaginative, he needs some visual stimulation to assist him with this.

I find this uncomfortable, it seems really odd that he's upstairs watching women whilst his family are asleep downstairs. He says I'm being a prude and that some wives would want to go and join in.

Last time we had this discussion, we agreed that it was because I wasn't putting out enough that he required this outlet, and it turned out he felt that if we had sex regularly once a week as a minimum, he wouldn't need to find other ways of relieving his frustration. So the agreement a few weeks ago was that he'd stop watching the porn sites and I would increase my efforts in the bedroom. I feel I've kept my side of the bargain (other than the last couple of weeks when either the children or I have been ill).

Today I went to find something on the computer and discovered he's been back on all the sites again and watching it on several evenings (I ended up going through his browsing history) without saying anything to me.

I have confronted him this morning and am upset and angry - largely because he lied to me, and we had a deal - and partly because I am now worried that he has a proper addiction and I don't know where to go from here.

Am I being a prude? Is this normal (he says what he's doing is entirely normal)? Should I be grateful he is doing this within the family house rather than going out and shagging other women? I'm concerned that if I give him an ultimatum, I'll either push it underground and he'll just lie, or I'll make him so sexually frustrated he'll go and snog (or worse) someone else. Ironically, all this is doing is turning me off and making me not want to have sex with him at all.

Please send ANY opinions you have - male or female - good or bad.

Thank you x

OP posts:
topknob · 12/11/2011 18:14

OP are you interested at all in watching with him? x

squeakytoy · 12/11/2011 18:15

Malificence, how can you be 100% certain that your husband doesnt ever masturbate? Unless you are with him 24/7 and even follow him to the bathroom. It just isnt possible to be absolutely sure.

Out of interest, would you be angry with him if he did admit to it?

Malificence · 12/11/2011 18:16

Why controlling? Wanting your partner to get their sexual fulfilment from you and only you is as valid as someone not being bothered what their partner gets up to without them.

pink4ever · 12/11/2011 18:16

mother- You cannot know what goes on inside anothers persons head-unless you also have telepathic abilities? If so apologies...

So your dh could swear blind that he only ever thinks of you and you wouldnt know any different would you?

Horses for courses-if you are both happy then thats all that counts.

I love sex and have a higher sex drive so dont have a problem with using porn or dh using it-I understand this doesnt suit everyone.

topknob · 12/11/2011 18:18

Your dh doesn't masturbate..he told you that did he :o

pink4ever · 12/11/2011 18:19

mal-very personal question so feel free to ignore-but does your dh have problems in that region? I ask because I have never heard of a man who doesnt masturbate?

JambalayaCodfishPie · 12/11/2011 18:22

Maleficence

I can now understand entirely why you wrote such shit on the Arrows thread, you are clearly very gullible and believe every word your DH says.

Perhaps think twice before you spout it next time?

Malificence · 12/11/2011 18:23

Just to be clear - I have no wish to stop him masturbating , none at all, I just know that he doesn't and hasn't for several years, if he did , he would tell me or he would do it in bed beside me, which is what I do. He knows I do, I know he doesn't, my sex drive is higher than his and has been for a couple of years, if he's horny, he'd rather have sex with me and if I'm ill/on my period etc. he would rather wait, it's that simple.
I'd be absolutely fine with it if he did, he used to do it in the shower when he used to work away, again he would tell me - this was in the days before computers/webcams/smartphones etc. If those had been available back then we would have had great fun. Wink

quietlyafraid · 12/11/2011 18:23

Tiredoutmum

If your DH is being honest and open about what hes doing thats good. I think that for some guys they do need 'some relief'. We may / may not agree with the way they do it or the rights and wrongs of porn, but its not 'unnormal' and I don't believe its necessarily thinking any less of wives. Men are strange creatures.

The problem is that this is making you feel uncomfortable and that he seems to be doing it a lot. And that he's now gone behind your back to do it. He does need to be more honest about it. Trust is as important as the porn here. He needs to be aware of that.

I don't think you are being a prude, but I do feel its something you should discuss and work through together again. I think it will take time to find a balance that works for you both, and it possibly will involve a few arguments first.

Don't feel pressured in the bedroom either - it will cause problems there too if you do. It sounds like it already is. You can't always magically turn yourself on.

You can't ban a guy from porn. It never works imho. No matter how much they love you. Frustration and hormones make women crazy, and I think we need to remember it the other way round.

I think its a long term minefield that you need to find your way across slowly. There isn't a magic solution. Take it slowly.

Just try and remember your DH DOES love you throughout.

AKissIsNotAContract · 12/11/2011 18:23

I once met a man who told me he never masturbated. He considered it a waste of his seed and said it damages the male psyche!

I've never met a woman who doesn't masturbate.

As usual on these threads, I agree with squeakytoy.

pink4ever · 12/11/2011 18:24

Well if you say so malWink

Malificence · 12/11/2011 18:31

No, no ED issues whatsoever, never has, he is fit and healthy, although sex has been less frequent for about a year due to him waiting for surgery, which he had a couple of months ago and is now fighting fit again and running 5 miles a day, so we're getting back in the swing of things Wink.
People always assume I mean he has never masturbated, he was in the RAF for 12 years and often away so of course he wanked!

He's a perfectly normal, red blooded man with a perfectly normal libido, he has never used porn of any kind, not even when younger.

CookieRookie · 12/11/2011 18:31

Agree with Squeaky

Don't agree with Mal getting sarky comments about her DH helping himself or not. How would she know if he was doing it? Don't know but where is the survey proving that all men do and was he included?

pink4ever · 12/11/2011 18:33

cookie-eh same argument right back at you-how does she know he doesnt dot it? because he says soHmm

CookieRookie · 12/11/2011 18:36

I've already said that in my post. How does she know for sure without being telepathic? I can't see how she knows for sure but it's obvious trust is enough for her. My point was who is anyone else to make a sarky comment implying that he definitely does and that she's just ignorant?

Malificence · 12/11/2011 18:38

We talk FFS! Isn't that what people do with their partner, talk about their sex life?

He will do it, for me occasionally, If I ask nicely Smile.

Oakmaiden · 12/11/2011 18:39

From what Mal has said, I actually suspect she is right, and he doesn't. It doesn't sound like it is an issue for either of them, just something her husband doesn't really feel into (anymore?).

I am sure there are men who don't wank - I'm not completely convinced there are men who never have had a go though, or that demanding a man stop is healthy....

pink4ever · 12/11/2011 18:39

mal-well ok as you are so vehement about it-I will believe you. I just dont get why your dh wouldnt when he knows you dont mind-its great!Grin

Malificence · 12/11/2011 18:41

Pink - why are you so keen for me to be wrong/deluded and for him to be lying?

If I don't know him inside out/upside down after 30 years, I may as well throw in the towel right now.

MrGin · 12/11/2011 18:53

Most men I know who don't have daily sex, if they have the time and space, will bash the bish at least once a day.

It's supposed to be a good way of getting toxins out, and also reduces the chances of prostate cancer.... and it's free.

OP your post states that you made an agreement several weeks ago, but due to sick dc you haven't been up for it over the last two weeks... and your DH is still upstairs getting his jollies. Not sure I understand... both of you aren't adhearing to the agreement no ?

I think he's being pretty honest with you.

Kayano · 12/11/2011 18:53

Mal my DH doesn't either, but we do watch stuff together Smile so I get it. He just doesn't like doing it and rathers I did Wink lol!

OldLadyKnowsNothing · 12/11/2011 18:59

Urgh at getting toxins out, please remember where your "toxins" evolved to go!

Tiredoutmum · 12/11/2011 19:05

Wow - I just put the kids to bed and logged back on! Thanks so much for everyone's thoughts / advice / opinion - turns out it's quite an interesting topic and rather a heated one!

It's helped me to take some stuff on board that I'm not necessarily the innocent party here or the victim, although I am still angry about the lying. I don't think I would want to watch it with him - especially after all this - but I accept we need to try and find a compromise. I'm just not sure what that is - particularly because at the moment I don't fancy going anywhere near him.

OP posts:
quietlyafraid · 12/11/2011 19:14

I think the thing to look at is how you can equal out your libedo, rather than the porn.

You can't force the issue - it won't work, so if you go down that route work out ways to turn you on rather than making it a chore.

Maybe if he does want to do the porn ask if he minds telling you and discussing it first rather than simply going behind back. Its not about control its about trust. I do feel you need to be prepared to compromise to a degree though.

PlentyOfPubeGardens · 12/11/2011 19:20

Just from reading your name, I get that you're tired out. Of course your libido is low. Do you have very young DC? Does your DH do his share of the work?

He's pressuring you to 'put out' more or he'll carry on using porn. What a charmer! What a fucking wanker! No wonder you don't want to shag him Sad

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