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Husband obsessed with watching porn (on his own) - am I being unreasonable?

196 replies

Tiredoutmum · 12/11/2011 17:00

Hi mums (and dads)

This is an awkward thing to talk to my close friends about, since they all know my husband really well, so I'm hoping some of you out there can help me get my head straight on this.

My husband enjoys watching porn - some hard core I understand - but nothing too deviant (no animals, young girls etc). He does this on the internet, upstairs in our loft room (which he uses as a study), and usually when I've gone to bed or I'm out for the evening.

We have discussed this before because I've been a bit uncomfortable about it, and he says it's just because my libido can't keep up with his, and since he's not the type to go and have an affair or find a prostitute, this is his way of 'scratching the itch'. He's tried to explain that for men, the sexual need is a very physical one and you have to kind of let it out otherwise you get really pent up and frustrated. And because he's not particularly imaginative, he needs some visual stimulation to assist him with this.

I find this uncomfortable, it seems really odd that he's upstairs watching women whilst his family are asleep downstairs. He says I'm being a prude and that some wives would want to go and join in.

Last time we had this discussion, we agreed that it was because I wasn't putting out enough that he required this outlet, and it turned out he felt that if we had sex regularly once a week as a minimum, he wouldn't need to find other ways of relieving his frustration. So the agreement a few weeks ago was that he'd stop watching the porn sites and I would increase my efforts in the bedroom. I feel I've kept my side of the bargain (other than the last couple of weeks when either the children or I have been ill).

Today I went to find something on the computer and discovered he's been back on all the sites again and watching it on several evenings (I ended up going through his browsing history) without saying anything to me.

I have confronted him this morning and am upset and angry - largely because he lied to me, and we had a deal - and partly because I am now worried that he has a proper addiction and I don't know where to go from here.

Am I being a prude? Is this normal (he says what he's doing is entirely normal)? Should I be grateful he is doing this within the family house rather than going out and shagging other women? I'm concerned that if I give him an ultimatum, I'll either push it underground and he'll just lie, or I'll make him so sexually frustrated he'll go and snog (or worse) someone else. Ironically, all this is doing is turning me off and making me not want to have sex with him at all.

Please send ANY opinions you have - male or female - good or bad.

Thank you x

OP posts:
MotherPanda · 12/11/2011 17:48

NO NO NO you're all wrong!

This is not monogamy!

Kayano · 12/11/2011 17:50

I actually think memoo has a least objective pov than squeaky here....

Fo0ffyShmooffer · 12/11/2011 17:50

Oakmaiden that's fair enough it is like blackmail from both sides. The very fact that there is a bargain wont resolve this. Thing is though regardless of that he is upstairs getting his jollies to what the OP has herself described as Hardcore porn. It would mark a massive turning point in my relationship.

Kayano · 12/11/2011 17:50

Least? Less! Damn phone

Memoo · 12/11/2011 17:52

I don't find tbe human body offensive, I think it is beautiful, and I don't object to nudity either.

But taking shots for people to wank over makes it porn in my mind.

I sat on a bus once with my young children and tbe man in front was looking at the 'glamour shot' on page 3 of the sun. Do you think he was admiring tbe angles or the lighting or do you thinking he was getting a hard on?!? Would you want your kids to see that? We had to move.

Memoo · 12/11/2011 17:54

How do I have a less objective pov?

I detest porn, squeaky repeatedly defends it.

Oakmaiden · 12/11/2011 17:54

Where is the line, MotherPanda? Should sexual activity only take place in a bedroom with your wedded spouse? Or is it OK to "go solo" - but only if you are thinking about your spouse when you are doing it. Is it cheating to fantasise about someone else whilst masterbating/having sex?

I appreciate there must be a line drawn somewhere, and I don't know where the right place for it is. But I think, for me, it is to do with real life. So if my husband were masterbating and thinking about a film star/someone from a porn film then that is completely different to thinking about the secretary from his office whilst he is doing it... iyswim. I do feel uncomfortable about the porn type thing, but I don't really think it is cheating... I think in a lot of cases it is not even really a fantasy - more voyerism...

iggi999 · 12/11/2011 17:57

He should be working on making your sex life more pleasurable for you both rather than sitting upstairs like a teenager.

Kayano · 12/11/2011 17:58

Because you detest it so much you can't look at each case individually and objectively. You had already seemingly judged squeaky on 'what she does for a living' despite being wrong and therefore seemed to disregard her views straight away.

I think in this case OPs husband has said to her honestly the reasons why he uses it, he has a higher sex drive, poor imagination and would never want to cheat on her. I am torn on this one as a don't think either side is wrong here but I like the fact he has tried to discuss it openly with OP

MotherPanda · 12/11/2011 17:59

For me, when I enter a relationship I expect everything sexual to be between us, so actually I do think that fantasising about someone else or looking at porn is betrayal. We agreed those 'terms' however so I accept that other couples have looser boundaries, but i don't understand how that can work. I want h to love me, and only me and that includes my body.

pink4ever · 12/11/2011 18:00

memoo-My dh doesnt read tabloids but if he picked up a sun while passing-yes he would probably glance at page 3 but I seriously doubt he would get an erection. I doubt many men wank over the sun now when they have access to free porn online!

Kayano · 12/11/2011 18:01

Memoo... Maybe the man was not looking at the page 3 girl and 'getting a hard on' on the bus.

I read than Gary Neville was 'outed' as a secret Liverpudlian today... On page 3 of the sun...

pink4ever · 12/11/2011 18:01

motherpanda-please tell me how you can control what goes on in another persons head as I am sure you could make money out of that abilityHmm

squeakytoy · 12/11/2011 18:03

I have every right to voice my opinion on a thread that is specifically asking about porn though MeMoo.

OP didnt ask for only posters who detest porn to post, she asked for opinion from any angle. Just because I differ in my opinion to you, it does not make either of us right, or wrong, and we are both able to give our view equally.

I have not tried to insult anyone who disagrees with porn. It is an individual choice that every adult is entitled to make, not because someone else says they should or should not enjoy it.

For some people porn use is not an issue in a relationship, for others it is, and when the two people in the relationship are at opposite viewpoints, it does create a problem in the relationship unless an agreement can be reached.

It is a personal thing, and different people get sexual stimulation in different ways. It doesnt make them a bad person in my opinion if they find soft porn a turn on when they want to masturbate.

Fo0ffyShmooffer · 12/11/2011 18:04

It could just be me but the reason he gave OP for his use feels like a very stock answer. The whole Men are visual creatures thing. Men are no more or less visual than women. I agree with Iggli if he gave enough of a crap he'd be working on a fulfilling sex life with his DP than writing it off and scuttling upstairs.

pink4ever · 12/11/2011 18:04

I enjoy porn-so shoot me

MotherPanda · 12/11/2011 18:05

I 't claim to control my dh- just I gave him a choice and I'm glad he chose me. He might fantasise, but at least I know he'd feel guilty about it, because he knows I would be upset by it.

MotherPanda · 12/11/2011 18:05

I don't claim to control my husband, that is.

pink4ever · 12/11/2011 18:08

mother-but how do you know he would feel guilty-would he tell you this? A man watching porn does not make him love his wife anyless-its a fantasy ffs.

I personally could not be married to someone who appointed themselves the thought police.

squeakytoy · 12/11/2011 18:10

I am a woman, and I would say if I were on my own, I prefer visual stimulation to mental.

Not everyone has the same sex drive. I think if one half of a relationship wants sex more regularly and one doesnt, then a compromise which keeps both happy needs to be reached, if that is the only problem in what is otherwise a brilliant relationship.

Why should only one person get to be the winner.

For example Wife wants sex once a week, and feels that any more than that is an endurance rather than a enjoyment, and is just doing it to keep the man happy. Husband wants sex twice a week, but knowing his wife only wants it once a week, is happy to masturbate once a week too rather than put pressure on his wife. To me that IS a compromise, and one that will not harm a relationship, because both parties are satisfied. The fact that the person who is masturbating wants to use porn when he does masturbate is his personal preference. It could easily be the other way around with the woman having the higher sex drive, and the above scenario could be gender reversed.

Oakmaiden · 12/11/2011 18:11

Is it just me who thinks that the reason men seem to spend more time viewing porn/masturbating has less to do with them being visual creatures with higher sex drives and more to do with them having more spare time and being less exhausted?

Tongue in cheek.... but....

MotherPanda · 12/11/2011 18:11

Good thing we are not married pink Smile

Because he said sorry about it, because I trust him? I doubt that he would do anything to upset me.

Malificence · 12/11/2011 18:12

"I remember a poster on here boasting that her dh didnt watch porn or even masturbate. I laughed so much I got a stitch"

I imagine that poster who amused you so much was me Wink I wasn't boasting, merely stating a fact. Why did you find it funny?

RumourOfAHurricane · 12/11/2011 18:13

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topknob · 12/11/2011 18:14

memmo bloody hell ! You not had any for a while or something....glamour is not porn lol :) maybe you should watch some porn and you will see the very big difference...