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Is this a normal relationship ??

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yellowtang · 15/10/2011 09:18

I feel very confused atm so sorry in advance if this is all a bit muddled

I am very unhappy but not sure why,I have been with my oh for 14 years and we have 7 children,I feel so traped its crazy,I dont go out anywhere just food shopping,I run the home as you do,but somethings not right,I dont feel like I am me anymore,I dont really feel much anymore at all,I do everything to please my children and oh which I know is part of being a mum etc but I do and act like oh wants me to,I dont go out because Ill miss a job and hell moan,I dont see my friends because he will moan,he wont let me on fb,he doesnt like me to wear make up/perfume,I think the person I am today is who he wants me to be and not who I was/am.

We have always been close,from day 1 so I thought I didnt need friends because I had him,
Another thing I noticed is he says one thing and does another,last week I text my best friend from school,and said we would meet for coffee,it took me 3 days to tell him I was meeting her ,because I knew what his reaction would be,then he thought I was hiding it from him,I only met her because I told my hv I was unhappy and she said why not make contact with her again,when I told him he said I dont mind you going,but he moaned for a good 2 hrs about it?

He says he doesnt want anymore children but then he doesnt use anything,sorry tmi but withdraral,but he forgets? so hes doing the oposit of what hes telling me,I was pregnant withing 4 weeks of meeting him but he knew I wasnt on the pill but told my mum I told him I was on the pill?

If we have spare money,not bill money it always goes his way,he doesnt spend it on himself but he will spend the lot.

He is a good dad takes them to football and swimming etc,he will pick up the shopping,he will put them to bed,takes them out with him,but we dont go out as a family much,we have spent many years doing up our home and it lovely he spend all his wadges on the house,and will leave himself with nothing for the week.

I dont really know why I am putting all this here but I am so unhappy Im not sure what to do,I posted something else on here this week anout my childhood,and hes been great about it,talking to me each night but he doesnt want me to see a counsellor.

He went to bed early last night and I wasnt tired,he said oh its ok if you stay up,as he went up he said Ill wait for you,so I just go up to please him,what I really wanted to do was turn the tv over and stay on the sofa for another hour,He would of said,why dont you want to go to bed at the same time?

Another strange thing Im scared of him, hes not ever hit me but Im scared if I dont please him,he will moan,shout or I dont know,he makes me jump,sounds stupid but not sure why.

I also get anoying comments from him,I phoned him by mistake the other day,he said why who are you ment to be phoning,but its the way he says it,sorry for the rushed/rambled post but Im banging my head here again

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izzywhizzysgunpowderplot · 04/11/2011 19:01

Did she find the hobby, or did he find it for her?

busybusybust · 04/11/2011 19:06

First of all YT, let me tell you how much I admire you for coming so far. It must be soooooo hard with 7 children!

As regards your eldest DD - do you think he has - how shall I put it - dishonorable intentions towards her? Well, OK, do you think he is 'grooming' her? For sexual purposes? If your instinct is telling you this, you are probably right and you need to take that phone away RIGHT NOW, and talk to her about 'appropriate relationships'. Do you think he is saying to her 'it's only you who loves me', whilst stroking her? Mmmmm - think about it.

I know you have so much on your plate at the moment - but this is really important, yes?

You must talk to her about this stuff - it will be much worse when she's a year older.

Good luck to you - you really are doing fantastically! Remember - this stuff is only temporary - you will be rid of him!

xx

yellowtang · 04/11/2011 19:17

Busy I would of said no straight away
The fact I had to think about it ? I don't know is alarming me , although I still think not
But I do find their relationship different

I think its more he wants to control her , I can see how he controls her now in a way
No I don't think its that
Something doesn't sit right with their relationship if it his controlling ways ?

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izzywhizzysgunpowderplot · 04/11/2011 19:22

You''ve seen some of the messages that he's exchanged with dd1. Can you give a couple of examples?

yellowtang · 04/11/2011 19:28

It's all things like
I'll be there in 10 mins
Ok I'm putting my shoes on
Just leaving now

Just basic communication

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busybusybust · 04/11/2011 19:30

Ah, I see. He has lost control of you and is looking to get control somewhere else (probably to try to continue his control of you)

I do think you need to take the phone away from her - with the appropriate explanations - as in what Daddy is doing is ilegal right now -- he isn't allowed to contact us at all, because he was violent to me. (I think, at 12, she is old enough to hear this).

Good luck - this ain't going to be easy, in the short term - but it will be a lot harder if you take him back, in the long term! Plus what would 'taking him back' do in the long term to 7 little lives! They don't deserve to grow up thinking that women should be treated like this.

foolonthehill · 04/11/2011 21:48

YT you sound so different, RL support and real real progress and people helping to keep you safe. I am Smile for you. Grab the good moments, they will help you get through the awful ones.

1 week and 5 days gone, one week and five days closer to sanity and a good life. For both of us

Good for you

yellowtang · 04/11/2011 22:24

Hi fool how are you ?
I'm so up And down still was in bits this morning when hv came
Hope your doing ok ? X

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foolonthehill · 04/11/2011 23:04

Thursday am cried like my heart would break, all morning for ???reason. parents meetings in the pm...all great Grin so happy mum.....up down up down, I guess eventually some middle ground might be claimed.?

It's just a hard road isn't it?

Life was full before, now it's overflowing. Would love a moment to just be.....

keep it up girl. I know you can!

foolonthehill · 04/11/2011 23:07

Hope you can have a chat with DD. my eldest has an amzing grasp of what is happening and understands well why things are as they are (even at 10)...hope you can get alongside her. She willl love to feel connected to you, and if she is "on-side" with dad she will be missing that so much.

izzywhizzysgunpowderplot · 05/11/2011 06:46

In a post of this magnitude it would be remiss to allow bbb's conerns expressed in their post timed 19.06 above to go unremarked.

Suffice it to say that these concerns have been mine since some considerable number of pages ago.

To this end, I pm'd yt earlier this week and I do not intend to elucidate further unless she gives her express consent for me to do so.

This disclaimer in no way validates bbb's concerns nor does it imply that yt has been derelict in any way in respect of her parental duty of care to any or all of her dc.

FTR, I have the highest regard for YT and have no doubt that, notwithstanding the constraints placed upon her by the father of her dc, she has always striven to put their needs, their welfare, and their wellbeing, above those of her own.

WhoWhoWhoWho · 05/11/2011 08:35

I was the eldest daughter of a controlling dad, definitely the closest to him, spent the most time with him, etc. I continued to see him when my parents split (we all did, 3 girls). When I turned 18 I prosecuted him for sexual abuse.

I don't want to alarm you by posting this YT but sexual abuse is about control - he is a very controlling man and has sexually abused you so please don't dismiss the possibility like my mum did.

TBH I wish I had been pulled away from his as much as possible, spoken to about it all (relationships, why they had split, told that I could talk to my mum or a grown up I trusted, etc), instead my dad continued his abuse and control through me and I continued to learn terrible lessons about relationships which I brought into my adult life. I really don't want to upset you YT and I've debated for a day or two whether to post this but as other posters have also raised the issue I felt it may add to that. I would advise a heart to heart with her and push for the kids to get that support via women's aid. Talk to your support worker specifically about DD1 and let her know what's going on.

Proudnscary · 05/11/2011 09:19

YT - I have spent over an hour reading this thread and am so fucking sad and angry at what you've endured at the hands of this terrifying individual - but am in awe of you for what you have achieved for you and your children.

Whowhowhowho - that is truly brave of you to write that eloquent, heartfelt and shocking post. I'm so sorry for what you went through. I think you have done the right thing by posting x

ToniSoprano · 05/11/2011 09:56

YT - could you somehow get another SIM card or something for your DD's phone, so you don't have to take the actual phone away (punishment) but her dad can't reach her? He's breaking the law and using the fact that she is an impressionable child to take advantage of the situation.

foolonthehill · 05/11/2011 14:42

Hold on Yt, keep going. You are doing brilliantly. So many thank you's to the wise on here who have flagged up and given good solutions for her.

foolonthehill · 05/11/2011 23:01

How's firework night YT???

yellowtang · 06/11/2011 00:00

I have had a bad day today
How are you fool ?

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catherinea1971 · 06/11/2011 00:03

Sorry to hear you have had a bad day, you will have those, but you are doing so well. Did your ds have a nice birthday? How are you feeling?:)

catherinea1971 · 06/11/2011 00:04

Sorry, that was a bit of a bombardment of questions, just didn't want you to go unanswered at this time of night.:)

yellowtang · 06/11/2011 00:06

I'm not feeling good
ds enjoyed his birthday x

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yellowtang · 06/11/2011 00:08

Thanks I'm not feeling very good today it's been a bad day from start to finish x

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catherinea1971 · 06/11/2011 00:08

It's nice he had a good day.
Are you feeling unwell or down right now? Evenings can be the worst time of the day when it's all quiet.

catherinea1971 · 06/11/2011 00:10

Would you like to talk about it? I'm no Izzy but will try and help if I can?:)

yellowtang · 06/11/2011 00:11

He's trampling all over me
Just feel drained x

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catherinea1971 · 06/11/2011 00:13

What has he done hun? Have you been getting any better sleep? x

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