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The Brave Babes Battle Bus - Joins The Foreign Legion In Their Quest For Sobriety.

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Mouseface · 03/10/2011 10:24

Hello, I'm Mouse Smile and I have a very abusive relationship with alcohol.

I can't just have one glass of anything, I have to drink until I pass out or run out. Whichever comes first.

This Bus is a place of solace and safety, where drinkers, non-drinkers and those who aren't quite sure can come and post or just sit and 'be'.

No-one will judge you, no-one will think any the less of you because we all have the same thing in common.

Alcohol.

And for those who want to read the journey's so far and the original thread by JWN, the lady who very bravely started these journeys for us, HERE they are. Smile

(PS - the title is just for you notevenamousie)

OP posts:
MsGee · 09/10/2011 07:20

Boing!

Quick hello to everyone! DD demanded a bath at 7am this morning ... So she can play with her new brightly coloured rubber duckies. So we are bathing / dealing with another bout of poo-gate. Sigh.

Hope everyone ok and is going to have a lovely sunday. I might tackle a roast dinner today ... Big news given we normally live off ready meals ... Apart from DD who has hand crafted wonderful meals! Anyway am
in the mood for pottering in the kitchen.

Poo arrived. Praise the lord!

MsGee · 09/10/2011 07:23

Oooh for anyone new, DD has trouble going to the loo, which is a source of major stress in the family so I always occasionally post about it. I'm
not updating you all on my own toilet habits Grin

beakinthebeeswax · 09/10/2011 07:47

mouse and scarey thankyou for your feedback, I try to be there for her children, I go to see them and we have a nice time. She is in such a mess, I am very worried, I am not being awful but I am not sure how involved I want to get as I have my own children and life. Her DP is also a heroin user and I just know if she takes that (as far as I know she has not) it will be the end for her.
I have thankfully conquered my issues with drink but she is worse than ever now. She used to have it all, looks, lovely new car, good job, own home. Its such a waste. Those poor kids.

MsGee good morning I am up early too. I would say its the best part of the day but that would be a lie. Its still dark and rainy here.

beakinthebeeswax · 09/10/2011 07:50

I have just seen a little robin red breast in the garden! How cute!

Just thought you would all like to know!

swallowedAfly · 09/10/2011 07:50

just seen the tail end - presume that's all been reported as spam?

MsGee · 09/10/2011 07:59

saf yes I thin MN are looking at it. Morning - day 16

beak sorry I didn't respond to you yesterday but as others said it seems to be a matter of helping but keeping boundaries ... If that makes sense. I think saf posted the other day that about half of people have a rock bottom moment and others just get tired of it all. Sometimes it's the mundane that makes people change rather than a dramatic moment. I hope she gets there. X

MsGee · 09/10/2011 07:59

And aaah to the robin!

notevenamousie · 09/10/2011 08:05

Where did my crack of dawn post go Hmm am I imagining having posted it??
Had a peaceful hour ironing and watching the race until DD got up, now been exiled to the kitchen with my laptop to watch "that horrible noise" - who's in charge in this house I wonder??

cidre well done - I bet you thought you'd not get to this point? - am really pleased for you

Am boingy this morning - church and housework for today - living the dream, right :)

spaqueen · 09/10/2011 08:14

Morning. Glad to see I'm not the only early riser. No robins here, though.

I've been a bit quiet since getting on board, watchin the scenery and enjoying the conversation. So much of what you all say rings true here, and you are such a lovely, supportive bunch.

Yesterday I finished day 8 without a drink and I have been thinking a lot about it, but like cidre in a 'what's it all about' sort of way, rather than really wanting a drink. And I have been thinking that for me it's not just how much I was drinking (half a bottle of wine 4 or 5 times a week) but the way I was drinking. Many of my friends seem to drink far more than me, but don't appear to have a problem. I think I have a problem because I know I drink in response to feelings I don't like the look of. And I can't stop at one.

The other thing I've been wondering about, not having done a reading about this, or knowing much about it, is the effects of stopping. I am very glad to have stopped, but have found myself feeling quite emotional, on a hair-trigger about very tiny things (almost hormonal). Days 5 and 6 I felt very weepy, and vulnerable, and right now, I feel quite anxious.

Sorry, a long one from me. But I would love to hear your thoughts. Thank you.

swallowedAfly · 09/10/2011 08:15

sounds familiar noteven - i gave up on the remote control years ago - fortunately i don't tend to watch tv anyway but things on the laptop in my own time.

those posts are against talk rules actually - when reporting make sure you call them spam because that's what they are - it's phishing scam for this intuitive recovery crap - sign up and sign away your money site. the rest is just the preamble propaganda.

day 16. doing fine at not drinking but feeling a bit low and odd. not sure what's going on. i tend to be a bit vulnerable to depression setting in around the season changes (well this time of year in particular as it gets darker - clock change is a scary line in the sand for me). so i'm trying to mind myself but a bit scared to be honest. nothing has changed, i'm still looking after myself, exercising, doing all the good stuff, not drinking but my energy is seeping away and i feel this cloud descending. please send good vibes for it to pass.

spaqueen · 09/10/2011 08:23

Sorry. Cross posting. Good vibes to saf. Well done to cidre.

beakinthebeeswax · 09/10/2011 08:29

MsGee she has told me she does not enjoy drinking anymore and she is sick of being dependant on it etc. Her children just dont understand why mummy disappears and why she always gets drunk instead of going to see them or play with them.

I have told her I will be there for her to talk to, she has lost all her other friends. I dont judge her or tell her off because if I did, she might hold back on the details and I need to know what she is doing

The sights I have seen her in. When I was heavily PG with DS2 DP and I (She is DP cousin) went round to check on her at her DP squalid flat. There was a local well known heroin addict drugged up laid on the floor, Her DP was stoned out of his mind smoking cannabis and, there were two men I did not know drinking cheap white cider. She was naked from waist down save for a t-shirt. God knows what had been going on. I was totally disgusted at the whole scene.

We have found out recently that she been mixing DP extremely strong painkillers (tramadol/hydrocodone) with her alcohol. I googled this, and the result can be death.

This is taking over my life and threatening to disrupt my sobriety.

Notevenamouse enjot church, I am a believer too. House work is great, it keeps you out of all sorts of trouble!!

ModreB · 09/10/2011 08:52

Morning everyone. Baking from last night is ready to be cut into portions, I made Mars Bar Cake, and we are having a nice bit of brisket that I am cooking in the slow cooker for tea.

Bit of a niggle with DH this morning. I think that he finds the non-hungover me a bit odd as rather than wanting to stay in my pit I am up and doing things. But we will get there.

ModreB · 09/10/2011 09:05

BTW - would anyone like a piece of Mars Bar Cake ,which is what the kids call it, and a cup of tea or coffee?

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Onemorning · 09/10/2011 09:08

Morning all. Had a drink last night - not as much as usual, but enough to be annoyed about.

beakinthebeeswax · 09/10/2011 09:11

Mod can I have a piece of your Mars Bar Cake? It sounds delicious. DS1 did some baking last night. He made pitta breads. Kitchen covered in flour this morning. I forgive him.

ModreB · 09/10/2011 09:15

beak Of course you can.

Careful, the chocolate gets sticky. It is a butter shortbread base, home made caramel middle and a mix of dark and plain chocolate on the top.

I am famous for my Mars Bar Cake - I once had a room decorated for a tray of this in payment Grin

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dementedma · 09/10/2011 09:50

morning all. Take that bloody mars bar cake away and give me some muesli!
We had friends down last night for "drinks" and I had..................ONE glass of wine. Ta da. Actually, I know perfectly well that I am fine with company/going out etc. That is not my problem area. It is drinking every evening at home that I can't get past.
Need to find a strategy for that.
More rain and wind here today so back to the bedroom of death for sandpapering and painting.
Thurso how are things? things in THAT department are grim here...

ModreB · 09/10/2011 09:52

MARS BAR CAKE

For the Shortbread

150g/5oz butter
100g/4oz caster sugar
275g/10oz plain flour

For the Caramel

100g/4oz butter
100g/4oz caster sugar
2 x 15ml spoons (tablespoons) golden syrup
1 large can condensed milk

Topping

2 large bars chocolate, (I use 1 x milk and 1 x plain.)

1 x 30 x 22cm (12? x 9?) Swiss roll tin, greased.

Method - Shortbread

Cream the butter and sugar together in a mixing bowl. Work in the flour until the mixture looks like fine breadcrumbs. Press the mixture into the greased Swiss roll tin. (tip ? use the back of a metal spoon to press it down, and make sure that it is pressed down as firmly as you can get it.) Bake at 180C/350F for 15 ? 20 min, until the base is golden brown. Remove from the oven and allow to cool until COLD.

Method ? Caramel

Put all the caramel ingredients into a saucepan and heat GENTLY until the sugar has dissolved. DO NOT STOP STIRRING as the bottom will burn. Increase the heat gradually until it boils, and boil the mixture for 5 minutes. DO NOT STOP STIRRING. If you see little brown bits in the caramel it is too hot too soon, so adjust the heat accordingly. (tip ? use a wooden spoon, and if you rush this bit you will burn the caramel. Little brown bits are ok, but bigger brown or black bits are burnt and taste horrible. Take your time) Remove from the heat and allow to cool for about 1 minute. Pour the caramel onto the cold shortbread base, making sure it is spread all over. IMPORTANT - allow to cool until cold and set.

Melt the chocolate either in a bowl over a pan of hot water or in the microwave. When set, the cocolate can crack so I add about 1/4 teaspoon of vegetable oil to the chocolate while it is melting, it makes the set chocolate easier to cut without breaking.

Spread this over the set caramel and shortbread. Allow to cool until the chocolate is set, then cut into portions and enjoy!

The trick to this recipe is to make sure that you take your time with the caramel and that you let each layer get cold, not just cooler, before adding the next layer.

And the great thing about it is that it takes a long time to let everything cool in between, so if you start at about 7pm you can keep yourself occupied until at least 11pm.

ModreB · 09/10/2011 09:54

chocolate not cocolate Grin

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Onemorning · 09/10/2011 10:16

That's just reminded me that DH accidentally opened a tin of condensed milk a couple of days ago, and the rest is in the fridge.

:)

shaketheshame · 09/10/2011 10:21

Hi everybody, I didn't drink last night but it feels so good not being hangover. I'm taking the children shopping and a bit of lunch !

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