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desperate for dating advice - should I ask a younger guy out if I'm a client?

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autumnflower · 20/09/2011 16:42

This would sound silly, but please help bear with me, if you can!
I'm divorced and have been single for a bit (unsuitable short relationship of 2mnth early this year, older man who turned out to be too controlling). I'm really ready for, and wanting a relationship, ideally would like to get married again and possibly have a child. I'm pressed for time as to children, but if this doesn't happen, still want to find a soulmate. The problem is I seem to be no good at all at developing a relationship in early stages. I tend to get excited quickly if there is mutual attraction and start imagining him as a lover and future husband, which means i have no patience developing things slowly. I asked a couple of men out myself over the last two years (apart from that relationship where older man intiated), both younger, thinking they were single - both turned to be married, so of course that stopped there, but it made me weary of asking someone again and being disappointed. I also read those books and kind of believe the idea that a man should be the one asking me out - I'd enjoy that more. I only asked those two out because they had no means of contacting me, fleeting encounters.
I'm now looking buy a new place, and lo and behold, I now fancy one of the estate agents! Partly i let myself fancy him as it looks like he's attracted. But I just don't trust my judgement after mistakes and a long gap in dating, as he could be just either nice, or wanting me as a client (I now view most properties with him and not other agents). He's younger, and that also scares me a bit - but he does seem to make an special effort, and they are busy anyway with sales, but also he blushed last time when we were shaling hands saying goodbuy. We seem to chat more amd more beyond the neccessary, and ther is eye contact but sometimes he looks away rather than look confident. The thing is, I feel that he won't ask me out because i'm a client and he might be scared of losing a job? does anyone have expreience of agents asking then out? very silly i know, but I think there is really something worthwhile between us! Just feels that he likes me. And he's apparently single (didn't ask directly but going by fact that he lives with friends). If he can't ask me out, should i do it? I'm pertified of making an idiot of myself again, if i misread it. Or he might be just interested in casual sex, but I'm not! I'm close to buying something so I might have to stop viewings next week and will stop seeing him, but can definetely see him at least once more. Oh, and I love his voice - always found it was a good sign. And it seems like i have a thing for younger guys - AND been encouraged by MN success stories. A woman in her 30s behaving like a teenager i know, but please help. Is it true that if a man really wants someone, he'll ask her out no matter what???

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autumnflower · 21/11/2011 21:08

Witch - thank you for understanding! I wouldn't have minded at all to be let down gently, even a word 'possibly'(we could meet) would ve been enough of a hint. A crush is a crush -people who aer all smug about how silly it is, obv didn't have one for a while. I wasn't In Love, which would ve been a bit too much, just strongly attracted and felt very harmonious/cosy with him.

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TDada · 21/11/2011 23:31

Yes, I am a bloke and I don't see any issue with age gap. Just depends on other factors like how much is the attraction, maturity eyc

WitchWitch · 21/11/2011 23:53

Hey autumn thanks for inviting me back :)
DP and I met randomly in a shop! We spoke briefly on a few occasions over the space of about a flrtnight. I thought he was very pretty (he is extremely pretty) but I had no idea he was interested in me (duh, apparently he was flirting with me but it must have been very subtle!) because I didn't take the hint until he looked me very deeply in the eyes (yes, in the shop) and asked me out! Took me completely by surprise but I gave him my number, he called me that night and we've been inseparable ever since.
This is what I mean about a connection. It's not about age it's about not messing around and playing games. If someone wants you then they want you imo and they don't dangle you.
As for income he earned a good deal more than me and as I'm now at home with our baby income really has little to do with it. I can't see any reason why you can't pursue a younger man autumn, I just think this one was more into playing games than you.

autumnflower · 21/11/2011 23:58

WW, well you see, he has a higher income - I think a guy's confidence depends on that to quite a big extent. If a guy is earning very little (due to his age) and the woman he fancies appears more well-off, I think he might just not see himself as a valid partner - don't you think so - or would nothing stop him at all? I'm not even talking about this guy (agent) but say if he DID like me just as an example(or any other young guy) I think it could unnerve him. It's great to know though that even random meeting worked for you! it's great! are you generally chatty/very approachable?

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autumnflower · 22/11/2011 00:03

of course i mean good genuine guys, not players who are after your money (I knew an amoral old guy who had no scruples pursuing and marrying a younger woman with money who then kept him! he then cheated on her as well and split up).

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WitchWitch · 22/11/2011 00:05

I think I didn't notice the flirting as such because I wasn't really looking for a relationship or even dating tbh I was just kind of bumbling along busy working, being a single mum etc and DP says he wasn't looking either but when we met it was just like oh, there you are..neither of us realised there was anything missing from our lives until that day. Sorry if that's a bit mills and boon but that's how it was.
I do get it autumn, I see exactly why you're still hung up on the guy because instead of that gentle thanks but no thanks that you could have lived with, he gave you hope for a meeting then never followed it up and that sucks.

autumnflower · 22/11/2011 00:16

your guy sounds so sweet - and so OPEN (I love that 'oh, there you are!')
I've already accepted about this guy, I can't get into his head and know for sure what he thought and felt, so i'll leave it there. The thread really helped me to calm down. But I want to learn for the future and whether younger guys are worth a go generally IF they are not earning (and not confident about being a supportive partner). I do tend to invest myself once involved, so trying to gather some wisdom here.

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WitchWitch · 22/11/2011 00:33

Aww thanks autumn he is sweet..here was this 25 year old bachelor who'd only dated when he felt like it, spent his money how he pleased (I wasn't aware of his higher income btw until he suggested we find a home together!) suddenly contemplating a serious relationship with a very independent single mum of two..if that wasn't enough to put him off I don't think anything could have. We both found it really easy to be open with each other from the very start, you know when people say they feel like they've known each other forever and you think hmmm...really??? well that's how it was..we both agree neither of us has ever felt so completely at ease with another person as we did and still do with each other.

I'm gathering we're both roughly the same age autumn and I can honestly say there's no reason why you shouldn't try dating a younger men..mine's awesome and luckily he thinks the same of me :)

autumnflower · 22/11/2011 00:49

but for you it started as purely easy/friendly feeeling - not actual attraction (until he asked you out)? I wonder if he didn't ask for a while , do you think you'd get attracted and keen? Honestly, you both sound just good, kind, positive people who found each other - it's great to hear! I'm now also looking for a KIND guy, first and foremost. Who doesn't mind being open and caring. Mind you, you sound a catch too.

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WitchWitch · 22/11/2011 01:08

Thanks autumn..I'm sure you are too and honestly there are some great guys out there..promise! Oh no there was definite attraction i was just slow to catch on to his flirting! I thought he was gorgeous and apparently he thought I was stunning and fancied the pants off me but didn't think I'd fancy him! As if!!! One day he just decided its now or never to ask her out and if he hadn't I would have before much longer because I was slowly getting more smitten each time I saw him..
His job takes him away from us quite a bit now..he hates going and me and dc's hate that he's away but when he comes back its honeymoon period all over again cos we've missed each other so much. He's away atm, two more weeks til he's back...

autumnflower · 22/11/2011 22:49

Aw that's hard on you WW (him working away)! life is never perfect, is it - when the relationship is great, then there are outside hardships, but still the main thing is to know that your loved one is out there and coming back. I hope he stays in touch! But how do manage with three children when on your own? though probably you have a support network, being as nice as you are.
I respect men who bite the bullet like that even when unsure! it's really best that way, than a woman putting herself on the line - everyone is happy.
I'm getting over my uneventful crush, though tbh a bit sad about not knowing whether he had his own reasons (but liked me) or just played games. Kind of makes you think twice next time about taking intiative (but if you aer a client sometimes the only way). still maybe I should just leave it up to the man next time.

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WitchWitch · 23/11/2011 00:17

well luckily for me I had been a single mum to my eldest two for a few years before meeting DP so when his job started taking him away for a couple of weeks or so at a time we both knew I'd cope just fine with three of them lol!

autumnflower · 23/11/2011 00:28

thanks WW - I will, you know!
Still two older children is not the same as two plus a baby, what with sleepless nights etc. (though probbly they are now helping you a bit actually!)

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WitchWitch · 23/11/2011 00:43

I'm no stranger to being alone during sleepless nights with babies lol... exF left me when my eldest was a toddler and i was pregnant with baby number 2 and he never looked back so i've had plenty of practise!! No the older two aren't much help as yet lol but they try bless 'em.
At least i know DP will be home next week..he's an excellent dad/step dad/partner and he can't wait to get back to family life for a while before he has to go again...I read about so many knobs on here (and exF was one) it makes me even more thankful I found a gem..or he found me..whichever way you look at it lol!

autumnflower · 23/11/2011 00:49

well. with that kind of bad luck in your first serious r-ship, you really deserve the best - especially because you managed to stay nice and didn't turn bitter/cynical - seriously, ewll done! good karma you know, it works (cheesy or not)! I hope this kind of H's work is only for a while, not long term though.

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