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Leaving an emotionally abusive relationship - my story

508 replies

preciouslittlegems · 18/09/2011 23:34

Sorry, this is long! I'm just not sure what to think about a conversation I had earlier with DH. He was not joking and this is set in the context of a relationship that has broken down and we no longer share a bedroom. He is bitter as he wants things to return to the way they were, for us both to compromise. I don't want to because he has been quite severely empotionally abusive and I don't want to get emotionally involved with him again, as I feel it is not a good place for me to be. I am being supported the local DV service because of the abuse. I am finding it really hard to leave the relationship because I don't know how he will react and today's conversation has made me even more uncertain (he has also threatened to kill himself many times).

I was preparing dinner with a sharp knife. He came up to me and told me not to stab him with it (he said the same thing last week). I took it as a joke and replied I'm not in the habit of killing people. He, speaking quite seriously, told me that he often thinks about killing people and asked if I do. I said no, of course not. He said he was surprised given the state of our relationship. He said he thinks less about stabbing people and more about suffocating and poisoning people. He said he lays awake at night thinking about it a lot. I was stunned at this point but decided to find out more. I asked if there was any one in particular he thought about killing (I could see where this was heading) and he said it was me he thought about, in particular poisoning. I calmly told him that he would go to prison and he said only if found out. I told him that he would be a prime suspect and he then went on a bit about things I do that upset him, including sharing with family and friends things he would rather I didn't (the abuse). I asked how he planned to poison me he said he wouldn't tell me because I would run off and phone someone and tell them. I asked if that was the only reason he wouldn't tell me, as I would not have a clue how to poison someone. He said that I have no idea what he knows and that he knows a lot more than I realise.

I sound very calm above but I don't feel it. This has freaked me out and is the reason I don't leave as I am unsure what he is capable of. He has mentioned poison to me a few times, e.g. told me there is poison in my cup of tea he has made me as he hands it to me (for no reason).

Am I being paranoid? Should I laugh it off? Am I unable to take a joke? He was definitely not joking but if I asked him about it again or involved other people, he would say I couldn't take a joke. He regularly makes really nasty comments to me. Since the incident he has been in a bad mood and barely talked to me apart from to shout a bit and criticise various things I have done and the state of the house.

I would just value any views. Do you think he has said this to frighten me to behave and be a proper wife again and not leave, or is there something more sinister to worry about? I feel this is the last straw but I am scared. I feel trapped.

OP posts:
GypsyMoth · 18/09/2011 23:37

Leave him. He means it

mammya · 18/09/2011 23:38

I think you should leave this poisonous "relationship" as soon as possible. And let someone know about his threats.

eekamouse2 · 18/09/2011 23:39

God he's an absolute fucking nutter.

Get yourself a solicitor tomorrow and get an injunctiion against him.

somewherewest · 18/09/2011 23:39

I'm not sure what to say except that that sounds absolutely terrifying. He is at the very least trying to initimidate you. I would discuss finding a safe way to leave with the DV people.

Collision · 18/09/2011 23:40

I never say this but you HAVE to leave him.

Do you have children together?

Just get a bag and pack some things and leave asap.

He sounds mentally ill and unstable.

NatashaBee · 18/09/2011 23:41

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craftyknickers · 18/09/2011 23:42

He means it and one day he will 'snap' if he is already abusive he will just get worse until there is nothing left but the worst.

Trust your instincts, tell your family about these comments, the more people that know the less he is likely is his to try anything.

He wants to scare you but at the same time he has this in him, I think from what you are saying he is capable of carrying this out.

Leave, call womens aid for legal advice on keeping him away from you. Please do not think you are safe if you stay with him because you aren't.

Im so sorry you are going through this.

FabbyChic · 18/09/2011 23:42

Why are you still living under the same roof as a psycho? Get yourself out of that house and move, move far away or to somewhere where he cannot find you.

It is not healthy, far from it. He sounds deranged.

eekamouse2 · 18/09/2011 23:44

www.resolution.org.uk

Phone a solicitor tomorrow for an emergency appointment and you may have an injunction against him by Tuesday.

solidgoldbrass · 18/09/2011 23:44

Get in touch with the DV support team and tell them he has threatened to kill you. They will either come and escort you to a safe place or remove him from the house and help you get an injunction to keep him out of it. You owe this man nothing, you have no obligations to someone who poses such a threat to you and who has behaved so badly towards you, use all the legal means available to get him out of the house and away from you and your DC.

Flowerista · 18/09/2011 23:44

OP your post has frightened me. Really that's just too messed up. Maybe as you're living in the eye of the storm you can't see it, but you need to reconsider your arrangements as a priority. Do you have DC? Where could you go? Please, please think about getting out now.

NormaStanleyFletcher · 18/09/2011 23:44

Please just go. Now

Partyspanner · 18/09/2011 23:44

This is beyond.

BEYOND.

He is TELLING you with his MOUTH that he is planning on poisoning you. He is literally saying that he has considered either suffocating you or poisoning you.

Ring the police NOW and report this threat.

GET OUT NOW

MaMattoo · 18/09/2011 23:45

Please don't put yourself at risk. Even if his threats are only to intimidate you. It's not worth taking the chance. Move out, we live to be happy and peaceful. Life is too short to spend getting mind fucked!

learningtofly · 18/09/2011 23:45

Jeepers creepers op your post has sent shivers down my spine.

I think you need to tell someone who is supporting you about this, from what you have written this sounds cold and calculating behaviour and I could never interept this as a joke.

ZhenXiang · 18/09/2011 23:45

Speak to the domestic violence people asap about a safe place to stay whilst you get an injunction and also legal help to get him out of your home if you are jointly on the mortgage/tenancy.

He sounds unhinged, to even think of intimidating someone with such threats even if you have no intention of carrying it out is seriously disturbed.

If that was me I would pack my bags and go to a friends tonight, there is no way I could sleep under the same roof as a man who made such threats to me.

NormaStanleyFletcher · 18/09/2011 23:46

What SGB said

epeems · 18/09/2011 23:46

On balance I would take this very seriously, report it, get it logged and leave.
Even if he is just attention seeking it is not worth hanging around.

GypsyMoth · 18/09/2011 23:47

Now he's told you all this be must realise you will be thinking it over? He must realise it is most likely to result in you seeking help and getting out

Are you Safe tonight? He has laid his cards on the table.....he knows it will be on your mind

I'd get out NOW...... How can you sleep safe tonight?

seriouschanger · 18/09/2011 23:49

Are you alone with him or do you have children in the house?

This is telling me you need to get out asap.

You were right to remain calm and your gut survival told you too....as he could have turned the knife on you.

He has had these thoughts for some time...can you lock your bedroom door so he cant get in tonight? Or stay awake all night?

He sounds very unwell tbh, paranoid and delusional at the least (delusional I think is the worst symptom of being at risk) unless a psychopath!

Ok start gathering things documents etc you need an emergency escape plan...ring Womans aid and explain the situation (when he is not around) you need to leave for your safety.

I have been threatened many a time with my life and believe me that is when usually a person is the calmest! This is screaming at me....serious risk of harm/murder...not the poison so much but the sudden wanting to do something in the middle of the night!

Once out you need to inform the police about what he said and hopefully they will take him for assessment...as he is at risk to others and himself....men who have serious urges to kill themselves often takes the 'victim' with them.

preciouslittlegems · 18/09/2011 23:55

Thank you for your responses. I am crying now. As I wrote the original post it was starting to hit me how odd the whole thing is but your reponses have confirmed it. This is why I haven't left. He likes to control and have things exactly his way and I have no idea what he will do if I ask for a split. He has never been physically violent to me but the fact he is talked about poisoning and not stabbing confirms his more insideous tactics to get what he wants.

We have 2 DC. DC1 sees his ways and doesn't really like him.

He was on AD's but came off about 1 month ago. He keeps telling me that he has really made an effort to change and that it is my fault the relationship doesn't work. I know it can't work. I need to call the DV support tomorrow.

If approached by anyone I know he will say he was joking and I overreacted but he wasn't joking. I am staying very calm in front of him but I don't feel like eating anything in the house now.

OP posts:
FabbyChic · 18/09/2011 23:58

He sounds like he is having psychotic episodes, it isn't safe for you or your children, you could get an emergency injunction to get him out the house if its mortgaged, or if social housing you could do the same. If its rented privately you are better off walking.

The DV unit will help you and put you on the right tracks.

This relationship is over.

Don't tell him anything at all.

Does he work?

Start packing stuff you will need, paperwork, stuff for your children, store it at a friends if you can in case you have to leave with nothing.

Please take this seriously, this man is not safe.

nightowlmostly · 18/09/2011 23:58

Never mind calling DV support tomorrow, leave now , you have to get away from this psychopath. Don't ask for a split, just go somewhere that he can't find you, I wouldn't trust him at all not to stop you from leaving.

Can you get some stuff together quietly, wait till he's asleep then get away? I'm really worried for you!

learningtofly · 19/09/2011 00:01

Tbh it does not matter a rats arse what he decides to tell anyone else you know, just so long as you and your dc's are safe.

seriouschanger · 19/09/2011 00:01

you must NOT ask for a split or upset him anyway he has said you upset him by telling others of the abuse...you need to leave then report it as police will laugh when he says 'you are mad' and then you are left their with this mentally unwell person!

Most men have never been violent to their partners before murdering them.

You need to get you and the dc out tomorrow...and when safe get police to take you back to get rest of your things. You need to tell police he has stopped his ADs too hopefully they will persuade him to see Dr but if he hasnt done anything yet....they have no power!

Don't let the kids eat anything either.

You are lucky he has slipped and told you his paranoid thoughts....this is a blessing in disguise!

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