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The Brave Babes Battle Bus - Sweeping Into Autumn With A One Way Ticket To Sobriety.

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Mouseface · 01/09/2011 12:53

Phew, just in time!

I'm mouse and I love a few to drink. I love all things cheese and I love MrMouse Grin

Welcome to the Bus. We are a collection of drinkers, non-drinkers, and those who are somewhere in between but we all have the same thing in common, we can't just have 1 drink and then stop.

Come say hi, we don't bite Smile.

Here are the other threads to date, if you have a spare hour or seven to kill. Wink

OUR HISTORY

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dementedma · 10/09/2011 21:33

jesus HELP!!
have a big conference in two weeks and in a moment of madness bought a pair of really really high heels. Well , they are for me - I only ever wear flats or chunky heeled boots. These things have pointy heels which taper down to a wee point. I just know I'll end up taking them back because I don't know how to walk in them. I look like a butch giraffe on ice.
Any tips, before I abandon this mad attempt to girlify myself.....

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venusandmars · 10/09/2011 21:47

Grin Grin ma I tried on my niece's shoes with 8 inch heels - it took me several minutes to walk fromher bedroom into the hall. The she tried to teach me how to "strut". I had to hold on to things to sat upright!

venusandmars · 10/09/2011 21:50

isindie I am an an introverted extrovert, or sometimes an extroverted introvert, Interstingly I am more E now than I was when I was drinking.

jesuswhatnext · 10/09/2011 22:51

ma! Grin a butch giraffe! what a vision that conjours! Grin i like to break new shoes in a bit at home! hold yourself tall and dont look down! the shoes should a be seemless extension of your legs iyswim? when you have mastered inside, i like to rub the soles on a concrete path or brick, not too hard, just enough to get a bit of purchase to stop the soles sliding on polished surfaces - always walk like you know where you are going, eith a long straight back and you will ROCK those boots! Grin

isindi - i called you nitwit, not a twat! (big ole diiference!) Grin never would i give up on you!!! Smile

venus - 8 INCHES!!!!! Shock is she a pole dancer? Grin btw, my dm tried some of mine on the other day, she had to hold on to furniture!! Grin

venusandmars · 10/09/2011 23:11

And of course I was trying to stand upright .

legalalien · 11/09/2011 09:18

I love Giraffes Can't Dance.

I never thought I'd say this, but I think I might knock the Friday and Saturday night drinking on the head. Drank half a bottle on each of Friday and Saturday evening (and just tipped half a bottle out- and in case you're wondering the first half bottle was the half bottle from the freezer so the maths does work). Not terribly hung over or anything, but the alcohol seems to have lost its magic, just makes me slightly not myself, dinner doesn't taste as good and feel a bit more tired than usual the next morning. Not planning to change my rules but think I'll just not bother buying wine or anything. And save the drinking for the odd occasion.

Hope everyone has a great Sunday - sun seems to have come out briefly in this part of the world...

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dementedma · 11/09/2011 11:34

morning all. will try yor walking tips jesus - jesus walks on water Grin but I'm worried at looking a complete prat. have visions of myself going arse over tits in the conference hall...
At the mo am taking a break from painting the bedroom woodowrk so don't know if the heels would look good with the paint stained tracky bottoms.

Fairenuff · 11/09/2011 11:52

Saf it took me a couple of weeks to get back into the not drinking routine after coming back from holiday. Like you, I didn't drink a lot but it messed up my thinking. Just use the experience to reinforce your resolve.

legal I'm 'allowing' myself to drink on Saturdays but am also finding that it's not that great and would like to stop. So far I have cracked not drinking (under normal circumstances) on Sun, Mon, Tues, Weds & Thursday which I feel brilliant about 'cos I used to drink almost every day. Now I am really trying to cut out Fridays too. It's proving to be quite a challenge but I will beat the bugger Grin.

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jesuswhatnext · 11/09/2011 12:37

morning!

SAF - i know exactly where you are coming from re your dm - mine is a very difficult woman, becoming more so as she gets older, her attitude towards me in public stinks and it has caused problems between us and my dh (who stands up for me! Grin) for years - when i was drinking i honestly couldnt find a way to handle her and her public behaviour beyond becoming really angry and often incoherent with rage - i find it SOOO much easier to handle her now im sober, my stratetgies have changed completly, i now treat her as a 'cantankerious old bag'! Grin because she is usually pretty pissed in company and im sober, i now look like the reasonable rational daughter doing her best to cope with an aged awkward parent! Grin works a fucking charm! after years of her rude, obnoxious behaviour people, particuarly family, are full of sympathy for me! Grin
dont get me wrong, she can be a lovely woman and i love her dearly, what i am seeing now though is that maybe we have a family 'problem' when it comes to alcohol Sad one that i can see and my dm either can't or won't see! she can't handle booze, it makes her horrible and despite me telling her how her behaviour upsets me she carries on regardless, something i am not doing with my own dd!

MsGee · 11/09/2011 13:35

Quick check in to send Isinde contract winning vibes.

Day 1 here. Struggling a bit with everything.

Nhs called back and guess what ... Told to ring cruse! She was adamant that they do bereavement support before 6 months. Is this true? I also need another assessment or cbt. Paperwork for tests at hospital came through but decided I can't deal with that at moment.

Mouseface · 11/09/2011 15:25

MsGee - you know where I am if you want to talk this over, the tests. Or anything else. I have been thinking about you all week, wondering how you are, where you are in the cycle of grief, drinking.

Please take a step back from the edge. You are so very fragile at the moment, one step too far and you'll fall. Hang on, stay on the Bus and let us all help you, we can hold onto you and let you go bit by bit, as and when you are ready.

You need to know the test results, but only when you are at ease, feel safer, it feels right.

Please stop beating yourself up for drinking. That will come in time. You know my usual waffle, 'if you're not ready, you won't stop' which is true. Maybe just try cutting down for now. Or change from full fat white wine to sprittzers, Becks Blue! Stack em up in the fridge.

Re the Cruse issue, IFAIK, the standard is 6 months after the loss. Maybe call them and tell them what you've been told. Go to your GP and ask for help sweetheart. You can't do this alone. There is help out there and you're not getting it.

Do you want me to talk to a friend of mine and see if she can suggest anything? I'm seeing her tomorrow.

Massive hugs to you xxxxx

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dementedma · 11/09/2011 19:24

msgee listen to mouse. she's been there and talks a lot of sense.
She leaves a shocking mess in this bus though
It's high time Gerald had his pre-winter service and a good clear out!

ClamberingUp · 11/09/2011 20:36

Hi babes,
learning all sorts here, wish someone had taught me heels-wearing earlier in my life, too late now, though my top tip entails buying Clarks Maryjane type heels, I can kind of walk in them and only rarely fall off. Also those gel cushions for soles of course. But cannot wear them much.

I went out with DH on Friday, had a nice chatty evening, and I drank but not out of control. I enjoyed it instead of feeling guilt and shame and that it was a crutch. However, on Sat, went out and had a whiskey cocktail with a girlfriend, came in, drank two cans of beer and then sneaked two whiskeys when DH out of the room. Guess what, I felt knackered much of the day today, not headachey though which was bizarre.
Had decided clearly not to drink tonight and did not anticipate that being hard. But then this morning, was with a group of friends, and one of them called me aside and told me that she felt anxious and judged every time she saw me because of something I had said about her ds. I do find him quite hard, but I don't remember saying anything, and she was not specific at all. She said she is very hyper sensitive, and I know that I have in the past said stupid things and upset people without meaning to. That has not happened for ages though, and I was kind of hoping I had learned how not to do it. I apologised to her for hurting her, and said I had not meant to upset her, and we had a hug and hopefully things will be OK between us, I think they will be. But, I had no idea it was coming - that has happened to me before and I feel even worse as I am obviously pig ignorant about others feelings sometimes and I wish I was not ('I'm clearly a bad person' is the thought process...).
When I came home, I did think it through, and my surface thought processes not too self punishing, and I have had the insight today that my DM and others in my family are extremely judgemental of others who do things differently to them, and so it is perhaps not surprising that I have some elements of that, even though this does not fit how I aspire to be. However somewhere inside me is a demon that is telling me I am a shitty horrible person Sad Sad . I konw that drinking would make these awful feelings go away for a bit, and I really wanted to drink this afternoon.
But I didn't, and when DH got home (from sailing, I am sailing widow on Sundays) I told him a bit about incident, he was lovely, and I told him that this made me want to drink, and he said that would just be really counterproductive, bloody rational guy..... He's right though. Anyway, feeling dead bruised but glad I did not drink, and off for soup and cheese and maybe mindless telly now (if can persuade DH).
Just needed to vent.....

BBwannaB · 11/09/2011 21:08

Hi Clambering I am sorry you have had a hard day, well done for sharing with DH and for not drinking on it. I think your friend was brave to broach the subject with you and it sounds like you dealt with it really well. It sounds like you have cleared the air between you.
If you can't remember what you had said to her is ot possible you were drunk at the time? I know I have said some things while drunk that I never would have done while sober - provocative things and sometimes downright rude, unpleasant and upsetting things.

It is hard to deal with the fact that you could have upset someone, but I would suggest that this is another of the situations that is no way going to be improved by drinking on it.

Don't be too hard on yourself, you are already taking steps to improve things and being more self aware.
Sorry this reply is a bit rambly, but I wanted to respond and support.
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jesuswhatnext · 11/09/2011 23:37

evening!

been out with my lovely sil, communing with the 'passed over'! Grin ohhh i love all that stuff!

nice to see you BB btw! Smile

clambering - i reckon you are quite a nice person - the woman you upset cared enough about your friendship to want to sort it out, she must value you and want to keep that friendship or she would have simply written you out of her life (particuarly as it was her child you had upset her about!) - i have said some unforgivable shit when drunk, my friends, my true friends, still care about me and understand it was the booze and i expect yours feel the same about you!

MSGEE - i have no words of advice that would be of any meaning to you, just want to let you know you are in my thoughts, for what thats worth Sad just keep hanging on in there! ((((hug))))

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notevenamousie · 12/09/2011 08:44

Morning everyone, hope that this stormy Monday morning finds everyone doing ok.
More nightmarish financial type sortings out for me today. I could never, ever have imagined handling all this with anything other than panic in the past. It is uncomfortable but I am finding I have what I need to do it, just for today.
Had a great time with DD, with the exception of terrible sleep, we had a great weekend. Here's looking forward to more.
Love to all x

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strawberryblondebint · 12/09/2011 09:24

jwn i have spent last hour composing a card to my dads gf who i was vile too when pissed 3 weeks ago! cant even remember half of what i said but it would have been grim> dp thinks im taking the soft way out by not ringing her but im full of fear
venus pm'd you my lovely
isinde i worry into the night all the time. i need to get a grip on things. DT2 is excellent on keyboard> i will send baby down for lessons. good luck with the plan stan!!
everyone else have a lovely sober day!!

ClamberingUp · 12/09/2011 09:29

Ooh yes Mouse I need extra muffins and Brew today, feeling bruised, but NOT hungover - cool.
Thanks for kind words babes re my foot in mouth. Know I was not drunk at time of the incident(?s) with my friend - think that makes it worse Blush

Doing some boring stuff at work today, then: 4 kids (not all mine PHEW) to feed then take to aikido, plus one to tennis assessment, one to football, then ...... collapse. Hopefully will find a telly distraction - I watched the Most dangerous roads in the world programme which featured Rhod Gilbert and another comedian last night and it certainly took my mind of my own troubles Smile. DH watched Jane Austin prog instead then read some Mary Midgely while I occupied the lower cultural ground and read Guardian's weekend magazine [airhead emoticon].

See you later all.

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