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Got married a week ago - we are no longer speaking to each other

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RockinSockBunnies · 28/08/2011 09:21

I don't know if I'm being a bitch, or if DH is being unreasonable, or if things will improve. I'm so miserable right now and have no idea how to deal with everything. Apologies as this is going to be long.

So, got married to DP last weekend abroad, in his home country (don't want to say where as will out myself even more). He is from this country but has been in England for 12 years. I have a 10 year old DD, he has an 8 year old DS. We live in England but are currently staying at his sister's house, with her family, his mother and our children.

We got married here to save on costs - it would have been way more expensive getting married in England than here, and we wanted a low-key, family ceremony. My mother came over for the wedding, his family and a number of friends came from other areas of the country we're in. Most guests were all from his side.

So, I'd never met his sister before, nor stayed at her house. My mother, who is in her 70s and is beginning to suffer from memory problems caused by strokes came out here, not knowing anyone other than us. She paid for our flights as a wedding gift, contributed towards lots of other things and paid for her flights too (well over a thousand pounds).

DH's sister had done all the organisation - we had communicated before coming out by phone and email. I'd said we had very little money and had tried to reiterate that we wanted things to be simple. DH's father had said he's pay for the Reception.

Anyhow, first few days here were hectic - I'd been booked in for hair, nails, facial etc (none of which I'd asked for but person doing it was a friend of DH's sister so I didn't question it). Ceremony itself was lovely. Then things have gone rapidly downhill since.

My mother (who was only here for a week, for the wedding) hates sitting around doing nothing - she likes to be active, going to places, doing things (gardening, doing dishes - anything at all, rather than sitting around). Nonetheless , she fell in with plans, tried to be cheerful. DH's family organised endless socialising - lots of food, drink, BBQs etc. Anyway, on the Tuesday I'm presented with an invoice from DH's sister for a significant amount that was totally unexpected. I'd thought that DH's dad was paying for the Reception - turns out that this covered just a meal and no alcohol, snacks or anything like that. Then I'd been billed for facials, pedicures etc that I'd not wanted.

I asked DH to check about Reception costs - he refused. All week he's been doing whatever his sister or mother have suggested and has ignored anything I've wanted to do. I spoke to my mother about the invoice and I was very upset as the costs were totally over what I'd expected to pay - there had been no warning that we were suddenly going to be thousands of pounds out of pocket. DH's sister then called me into her room, since she saw I was upset, and then proceeded to lecture me, shout at me and say that my attitude was 'sickening' when I said that I thought her father was paying for Reception (which in my understanding would be food and drinks for the day following the ceremony). DH took his sister's side in all of this. My mother and I were in tears for the evening and my mother then flew back the next day as planned. My mother told DH's sister that she would cover the costs when she got back to England. In the meantime, DH wrote a cheque to his sister covering the amount, from money in his bank account that had been set aside to pay off the cost of my engagement ring. So, essentially, I'm now contributing towards the cost of my ring from our UK joint account.

The rest of the week has been fairly fraught. I'm in a house with all of DH's family and only my DD from my side. DH's son is autistic so being around him 24/7 is difficult - at home he's with his mother half the time or at school, so easier to deal with. DH has been telling me to get my mother to pay the money. I asked why it was my mother that should pay and not his father. He said that my mother had got off 'pretty lightly' in terms of costs and that she should pay. I disagree.

To make matters worse, all his family and I and DD are off together for our 'honeymoon' that his mother has organised. This is her gift to us. Frankly, and I may be being a totally ungrateful bitch here, I can think of nothing less 'honeymoon' like than being with his family and our children for four days in the same place, sharing a room with the children.

All I want to do is go back to England but of course have to stick it out. I hate that DH hasn't supported me in any of this and that he's being so horrible to my mother, who's given us so much, is suffering from the effects of mini-strokes, who flew all the way here to celebrate and is being kicked in the teeth for it. DH is out with his family now and I'm at home, avoiding everyone and feeling totally miserable. I can't see the woods for the trees, am utterly fed up, tearful and wondering how the hell things go from here. I have no idea if things can be salvaged. I just feel like a complete failure.

OP posts:
QuintessentialShadow · 28/08/2011 12:17

What a horrible family. So your mother is to carry the cost of a wedding where all the guests were your husbands family and friends? What a greedy pack of wolves.

If I were you I would look into getting the marriage annulled.
In any event, take legal advice back in the uk.

Does your husband need a marriage to a uk citizen for his visa, by any chance?

UrsulaBuffayHere2Help · 28/08/2011 12:17

I'm sorry he was such a knob about your Gran, that would have been a dealbreaker for me.

saffronwblue · 28/08/2011 12:17

Rockin how ghastly. I think you need to think about whether you can spend the rest of your life with someone who perhaps has different values from you.
We all know that money and inlaws can be really stresful areas in a marriage - for them to surface at this point is ringing a lot of alarm bells. You will get through this but you will never be able to change his family.

ShirleyKnot · 28/08/2011 12:17

And I would tell the SIL to go fuck herself, just before I left to get the plane home.

RockinSockBunnies · 28/08/2011 12:21

No visa needed. He has a British passport already, as well as one from his home country.

Sitting in silence on PC in our bedroom.

OP posts:
Animation · 28/08/2011 12:22

You're going to have to toughen up quickly on your feet here. You'll be saddled with the honeymoon bill next.

Tell this sister to fuck off.

Pack your bags and save yourself - and your dd !!

honeyandsalt · 28/08/2011 12:23

Oh rockin I'm so sorry.

Can you not take your DD and things, get a hotel for a few days then fly home? Would you need to have the marriage annulled in his country? Could the British Embassy help you find help perhaps? Sad

Spuddybean · 28/08/2011 12:30

haven't read all posts but i would absolutely refuse to pay (or my mother to pay). State clearly these were organised without your consent or even knowledge. I would then get on the next plane to the UK.

I would tell new husband he has a choice whether to come with me or not.

Jacinda · 28/08/2011 12:30

The sensible thing to do is to get everyone involved lovely gifts, thank them nicely for organising the wedding and being lovely hosts to you and your mum for so long, then apologise for being too emotional at times.

It sounds like it was your choice to have your mum involved in the dispute. And having the whole thing at your in-laws overseas was bound lo leave you to accept other people choices. Dynamics in every family is different and you simply have to accept that and learn your lesson. Don't blame your husband for not wanting to alienate his family, many nations rate their family bonds very high. You'll be surprised how smoothing things out with his family will improve your relationship with your husband.

Smum99 · 28/08/2011 12:31

Hi, I'm sorry you've had such a tough time and sadly this does seem to be about the cultural differences. When a couple have different expectations, due to background, it can work but they have to have excellent communication skills to get through those differences.

You and your new DH seem to be pulling in the opposite direction and taking your 'home' sides rather than trying to find a path through it.

I don' know if your DH is an idiot with no redeeming features, only you can figure that out, but someone has to take a grownup approach to this. Speak to him, explain how all this confusion and hurt has happened. Listen to what he has to say - he will, in his mind, have an equal right to be upset. I guess in his culture the brides's parents take responsibility for the wedding ??? If that's the case they feel they have been more than generous. I'm not saying either is right or wrong just different.

Going on honeymoon together I think would always have been an issue - Did you consider this ahead of time? It's not a honeymoon, it's a family holiday - think of it like that and you won't feel so 'robbed' of a honeymoon. Hopefully you and your DH can make it up and plan a proper honeymoon for much later.

Get talking to your DH - more resentment will build if nothing is discussed. Make a list of why you wanted to marry your DH - what are his good qualities?

gorionine · 28/08/2011 12:32

RockinSockBunnies, it looks like there is much more to your problems in terms of how your DH treats you judgeing by how he reacted after your grandma passed away. He seems to have very little empathy/sympathy for you and it worries me.Sad

Animation · 28/08/2011 12:39

"The sensible thing to do is to get everyone involved lovely gifts, thank them nicely for organising the wedding and being lovely hosts to you and your mum for so long, then apologise for being too emotional at times."

Jacinda.

You're joking -right! Hmm

Spuddybean · 28/08/2011 12:39

jacinda please say that was a sarcastic post!!

gorionine · 28/08/2011 12:39

Jacinda I have to desagree with you. As much as I am an advocate myself to keep things smooth -as said previously, there is great cultural difference between myself and DH family- There are times when we visit when his sisters can be very overbearing (although admittingly, in a lesser form than OP) but DH manages to stand by me whilst still having an excellent relationship with his family. I do not think OP should put oil over the fire (not sure the expression exists in English, sorry) but nor should she be put down by her DH's family without him at least attempt to see things from her point of view as well.
Also I do not understand why it is ok for him to have all his family involved in the wedding and not for op.

ChristinedePizan · 28/08/2011 12:41

Jacinda - how exactly is that going to solve the issue of the fact that they expect the OP's mum to pay for the wedding? And for the OP to pay for the family to go on holiday?

I would get out of there sharpish - even non-transferable tickets can usually be changed for a fee

GreatNorksOfFire · 28/08/2011 12:41

I think I can guess where you are.

You sound totally trapped there at the moment. It is only until Thursday, which is hardly any time away, but I guess must feel like eternity just at the moment.

Very sadly I think your problem lies much deeper than your ILs being grabby and greedy. It's your H's attitudes. You'd think, a week into being married to you he'd at least be making some effort. And his attitude to your Grandmother's death stinks Sad

I hope you can work out the best for you and your DD.

honeyandsalt · 28/08/2011 12:42

Sorry to re-post this link but rockin if this is your H get out as fast as you can

gorionine · 28/08/2011 12:43

Should have added her DH is in the know of the cultural difference having lived in both. He is the one who has to make sure people can get along in explaining clearly to his wife (before had obviously) what would be expectied from her and to his family that his new wife is used to a totally different family dynamic. Him not doing that alienates his wife totally.

garlicnutter · 28/08/2011 12:45

Jacinda - Don't blame your husband for not wanting to alienate his family, many nations rate their family bonds very high. - So his wife and children are not his family now??

I'm aware that, in some cultures, the new wife becomes the property of her MIL. Fortunately, that's not case here. Plus, the SIL was clearly intending to rip OP for her friend's benefit.

I repeat: this is your wedding: if he can't be arsed to ensure you're as happy as can be now, it doesn't look good for the rest of the marriage.

So sorry for you, Rockin :(

PhilipJFry · 28/08/2011 12:47

Conducting rows with you before your grandmother's funeral because he missed out on a bit of your holiday is despicable. "No need to make such a fuss"? What an awful and unempathetic thing to say. He obviously has no respect for your family or your pain. That goes far beyond cultural clashes.

ilovemydogandMrObama · 28/08/2011 12:47

You need to go and talk to him.

He may not agree with the cultural stuff either, as after all, he did leave the country and live in the UK.

Is there any part of this you and him could have a laugh about now? Maybe suggest is it too late to elope? Wink

GreatNorksOfFire · 28/08/2011 12:48

Actually, I was just going to suggest just what Honey did - instead of getting a flight home earlier, why not stick to the scheduled flight and get yourself and your DD into a hotel for the next few nights?

Actually, I realise that would be a massive thing for you to do. But it must be so bloody hard for you to be in the middle of this situation with these horrible people and feel so trapped.

gorionine · 28/08/2011 12:49

My last post was to Jacinda

warthog · 28/08/2011 12:51

i'm worried that your dh isn't supporting you.

i'd reimburse her for the treatments you asked for, but not the ones you didn't. i'd stick to exactly what you'd agreed previously, but no more.

sorry you're going through this.

Jacinda · 28/08/2011 12:52

I assume the husband is not serious about getting OP's mum to pay and it only came up in an argument. Although there are cultures where the brides family pay for everything. But that should be agreed beforehand.

I just don't think it makes sense to fall out over family OP will hardly ever see.