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to tell DH to stop acting like a petulant stroppy toddler

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BringOnTheSunshine · 13/08/2011 23:54

and to get a grip!

I have also posted this in behaviour.

Background bit: DS 4 1/2, DD 2 1/2. I work 12.5 hours at the weekend and DH works M-F 12 hour shifts.

I am currently at loggerheads with DH about his, in my opinion, unreasonable expectations about the behaviour of our children.

He has been on holiday this week (he did DIY all week) and I have been taking the kids out every day so he gets peace to work. Wed night he is tired and getting grumpy with us all...fair enough, he is tired! He stops talking except to give one word answers. Thursday evening at dinner DD falls off the dining chair after numerous tellings to sit still. DH blows up and starts shouting at me for not watching her.... he was standing behind her chair and I was sitting two chairs away still attempting to eat my own dinner. We have words in the other room about him shouting at me and he goes back to one word answers.

We decided to spend yesterday out of the house together so he gets at least one day of rest. It starts badly as I put the wrong bin out...first time in 12 years, and he starts ranting about me spending all my time sitting about reading books or on the computer rather than doing what I am "suppose to do". We spent the entire 1 1/2 hour journey there barely speaking. We went to a local attraction, got lunch in a restaurant and were suppose to take the kids on a boat ride at the lake but DH stormed to the car in a toddler huff and we ended up going home.... again he wasn't speaking to any of us.

I dropped him at home and took the kids out and didn't come home till 7pm. He had slept on the chair the whole time. He got up to eat his dinner then went back to the couch. He didn't speak or interract with any of us until the kids were in bed then he told me they were "doing his head in"

This evening after another similar day of ignoring the kids and giving me single word answers I decided I was beyond pissed off and asked him what his problem is.

The list of complaints include our children being too loud. too boisterous, too whiney and they behaved "like animals" at the restaurant.

They were not shouting or screaming, but DS has a habit of talking loudly when excited. He needs frequent reminders to lower his volume but he was not disturbing other diners. At one point both children put their heads down on the seat and were told to sit up, which they did. DD dropped her fork twice. The first time when we arrived and she started playing with them as I was taking off jackets etc and the second when she was eating and it fell. Both ate the food that was served. They were not throwing food, climbing over us to get out the booth. Running around the chairs, screeching, swearing or hitting people. I actually thought they behaved reasonable well.

The problem we both agree on is the moaning, huffing and generally irritating behaviour that drives us both bonkers. They whined about one wanted to see one thing, another something else. DS went huffy because DD sat beside me and he wanted to...But I have also pointed out that this is NORMAL.

This evening he told me that I am obviously not discipling them enough as they have to be told 100 + times not to jump on the couch, to sit still at the table, to speak quietly and not shout.

I say ... they are 2 and 4 get a bloody grip.

so AIBU or is DH right?

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Dozer · 26/08/2011 14:56

Sorry it's hard. Things will get better! Hope he has agreed to move out.

Don't be sorry for him - you have given him lots of chances, and this situation is of his own making. It's easy for him to cry and say he'll change, loves you all (etc), less easy to actually behave better, and he's unlikely to do it, either with or without you.

inatrance · 26/08/2011 15:11

Well done you, stay strong and know that you have definitely done the right thing.

BringOnTheSunshine · 27/08/2011 21:16

Thanks for still being here. Today....well the last couple have days have been terrible.

I have realised so many things were an illusion in our marriage, so many times he failed to be there for me and the kids, so much anger, resentment, fear, oppression. All of it was hidden...even from me in many ways. Now I am telling him and others that we are over and they are shocked and confused. They are asking him why I am being so pig headed in saying no to trying again or a short break.

So far his mother has suggested I am dellusional and have another man. They are all telling him to keep hope, give me space to come round...they are saying it to me too. Not my close friends and family, they know the reality. They were shocked by many of the things I have told them but they believe what I say.

He has agreed to move out but having him here is like torture. He isn't sleeping and keeps waking me up....I am sleeping in the kids rooms. He follows me sighing, crying begging always wanting to talk. I can't get anything done without him being there needy and sad asking for more time, more chances....for him, our lives, the kids.

He, and others, think I am giving up too soon and are attempting to persuade me to stay. Again it is for the kids...or even, as his brother said, to stop him killing himself. Seriously WTF!

They are accusing me of bottling up my feelings rather than talking to him. I did speak to him about his anger, his attitude his behaviour.

He is telling people I am ending it because he threw a remote or he shouted at me when I held the tape measure wrong. They think I am an idiot.

He told them I was organising money and prepared a folder for him to move out. They are very shock because they think I should be broken and crying on the floor. I am the one telling him to hold off on decisions about the mortgage and we can talk about money later. Once he agreed to go and his brother arrived to take him out looking for a place I transferred money from savings into his account so he wouldn't have to ask me for his rental deposit etc. I organised his paperwork...proof of identity/residency etc so he would have everything he needed to rent a property. I put what cash I had in his wallet so he could get himself lunch.

I told him he needs to go soon. The dc are beginning to get distressed. They are having nightmares, DS has peed his clothes and bed 4 times since yesterday afternoon. I am so tired, drained...and angry.

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BringOnTheSunshine · 27/08/2011 21:26

I forgot to add. Obviously his discription of the situation comes across badly for me. People are thinking I am hard, cold and this was my cunning plan.

His mother also told him to try to get custody of the dc. "men can do it these days" She is such a cunt! I want to slap the silly woman.

He is telling me they are saying I am wrong...no he isn't angry, he is happy go lucky, he is a great dad...they watched him play with the kids in their house for 10 mins once every few weeks.

Then they add that they have noticed a change in him lately...tired, grumpy etc. They have kindly put it down to me forcing him to work these long hours and making him work on the house at every chance. I have worn him to the ground!

I have tried to get him to stop doing DIY, change his job, encouraged him to let me go back to work more days so he can change/reduce his hours. It was all a no go. Apparently it is not only H who thinks I can do no right

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Dozer · 27/08/2011 22:38

Sorry you're getting a hard time. Don't listen to any of his family or friends. Minimise your contact with them all, you don't owe them an explanation!

They have no clue (or worse, are part of the problem). It doesn't matter what they think and you don't have to justify yourself, to your soon-to-be-ex or anyone else. You know he has not been good to you or the dcs and are doing this so you and the dcs can have a better life. You have explained your decision and he is now harassing you.

Take care of yourself and the dcs, keep safe. Maybe get someone to come and stay with you if you can?

Really, really hope he clears off soon.

Dozer · 28/08/2011 18:23

How're you doing? Hope things have settled down a bit.

BringOnTheSunshine · 29/08/2011 12:29

Hi, I am tired but more prepared. I am taking a break from mumsnet...again...so I can focus on getting things on RL organised.

Thanks again for all the support.

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Notchattingnow · 29/08/2011 15:38

Hi BOTS just to say Hi and wish you well.
They are pressurising you... let THEM marry him and spend every miserable last minute with him
Bloody cheek
x

Notchattingnow · 29/08/2011 15:38

am Blethermouse btw

giveitago · 29/08/2011 20:33

Blethermouse. I hear you.

May I ask - how do you cope with being 'single' but not.

I'm in a similar scenario - I stay only because ds loves his df but I get zero out of it. He's been a controlling and threatening arse. I was scared. Less so now but have no energy. It's dh who insists we stay together but it's him who insists on presenting as seperated to ds.

I can cope being in a loveless marriage as long as ds gets the benefit of seeing two people who look happy together (but the reality is that only dh I think gets something out of it - aka - I facilitate him being a father).OK - but how do you find your own space and life?

Genuine question.

cestlavielife · 29/08/2011 22:56

BOTS - keep going and try not to listen to them. let them have your ex live with them.

he can be a great dad to them when they go visit with him.

giveit a go - do you really think your ds doesnt pick up that you not happy? how long can you put this act on for? you only have one life. doing this "for your DS" is rubbish. he is suffering from this charade more than you know

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