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To be amazed at how little you all seem to put up with in a relationship?!

177 replies

Jazzicatz · 22/07/2011 16:21

Everytime I come on here and read through this section, most of you very quickly jump in and say 'dump him'. Do you really dump someone for apparant trivialities or just saying it but would never do it yourself?

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ImperialBlether · 22/07/2011 17:14

I'm always amazed at what people have put up with in a relationship and 9 out of 10 times I think "Christ, how can you bear living with him? Run as fast as you can!"

I'm divorced (infidelity on his part) and my marriage wasn't nearly as bad as most I read about on here. It doesn't make me wonder why I didn't put up and shut up though.

Lady1nTheRadiator · 22/07/2011 17:19

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Dozer · 22/07/2011 17:26

Lots of posters on here are in pretty bad situations, not many are thinking of leaving (or advised to do so) for trivial reasons. And "run for the hills" is the obvious advice.

Malificence · 22/07/2011 17:34

Expecting high standards from your partner ( and yourself ) is a good thing.
It amazes and saddens me at the crap some women put up with.

mumblechum1 · 22/07/2011 17:38

Yes, expecting high standards is a good thing, but being understanding and supportive of each other is just as important imo.

It shouldn't be a constant battle about who works hardest/sleeps least/has the toughest time which is what seems to crop up an awful lot.

Gay40 · 22/07/2011 17:41

I'm sure we all have things go on behind the closed doors that other people would divorce their partner over.
But it never ceases to amaze me how many women are married to fuckwitted men. I mean seriously fuckwitted in every sense.

MigratingCoconuts · 22/07/2011 17:47

I've been in a crap marriage and I am now in a great one. And I thank fuck that I got out and raised my standards Grin

Only the ops ever know what their relationship realities are and I am loathed to make assumptions. However, if people come on for advice then I will try to do my best to support them.

lachesis · 22/07/2011 17:49

I do onto others as I would have them to do me. I don't dish out what I wouldn't take. So that's my rule in relationships.

What Gay said is definitely true of the relationships section. It seems a lot of people would rather stay with a fuckwit than be on their own.

FreudianSlipper · 22/07/2011 17:51

because nine times out of ten more comes out. and many many women can not see when they are in an abusive relationship, they feel they are doing something wrong. they ask is this normal because as they no longer have confidence in their own decisions down to the emotional abuse that they are often suffering. it is easier for those who have been through it to see what is going on (or have read up extensively). it is very hard to see when you are involved all the lines are blurred and it does not all happen overnight that is why everything is so confusing

as soon as someone is questioning is this wrong in their relationship i would most definitely think there is a much bigger problem

FabbyChic · 22/07/2011 17:56

There are some things that are not acceptable in any relationship they are violence and cheating.

perfumedlife · 22/07/2011 18:00

I rarely post or read relationships these days because I find it astonishing how much some people put up with in thier love lives. Having said that, my own dsis has just left a very decent dh because she was bored and that saddens me, especially for their dd, who is still struggling with it.

I have a beautiful, intelligent, hard working cousin who has lived with a lazy, frequently out of work freeloader for over twenty years. Many times I have wanted to advise her to leave, after listening to her moan and fret about him. I never did. I know she is only going to go when she has had enough. What worried me was how much bad stuff she was filtering out, when talking about their issues. Last month it came to light, drugs, debt, theft, sackings for misconduct, everything. And still, although she is leaving, she talks of how he is a good man, didn't set out to hurt her and is deeply troubled by his fathers death when he was a boy. Still, she is looking for why. Why is she wasting energy on trying to work that out? I think it's a famale thing too, this need to understand , and yet the energy and focus would be so much better spent on getting angry then getting the hell out of there, living a great life. I can bet my life he won't be spending his days seeking counselling or help to become a better man.

It's both the strength and the curse for women I think, this desire to understand and accept.

Pixieonabroomstick · 22/07/2011 18:05

I too am always horrified by the things some of the women on here put up with. Im single and when i read those threads i alwasy think id rather remain single til i die rather than end up with some of the partners decribed. :(

Pixieonabroomstick · 22/07/2011 18:06

always even

Laquitar · 22/07/2011 18:36

But dont forget when women in RL walk out because 'they are bored' they don't always say the truth. There might be more but they are embarassed to say it or they have both agreed to cover things up.

And if you are 'bored' because your h never speaks to you, sleeps in seperate bed, keeps all the money, never wants to do anything together etc then this is not boredom, it is hell and emotional abuse. I don't think that anyone says 'oh there is no good tv this week so i'm bored and i'll file for divorce'.

ChaoticAngelofGryffindor · 22/07/2011 18:58

Proudnscary "What about just a normal smattering of fuckwittage that is not - or should notbe - marriage shattering??!"

Problem is what is an acceptable level of fuckwittage to one person is unacceptable to another. You may decide that something isn't worth breaking your marriage up over someone else may disagree. That doesn't make you right and them wrong or visa versa, just different.

FreudianSlipper · 22/07/2011 18:59

i agree

the i am bored line could be a cover up. and at times people fall out of love, the relationship changes and beign with someone you no longer love can be very damaging to everyone. to others their partner may seem wonderful (ask nearly every woman who has been in an abusive relationship and they are likely to reply he was Mr Wonderful to everyone else). no one shoudl stay in a relationship if they are that unhappy and it is not working for them jsut because it seems like they have it all to others.

Dozer · 22/07/2011 19:15

mumblechum "It shouldn't be a constant battle about who works hardest/sleeps least/has the toughest time which is what seems to crop up an awful lot."

In lots of these threads the man seems to be doing bugger all at home and basically expecting the woman to be his servant 24/7.

So should the women just accept this and support their man?!

SarahStratton · 22/07/2011 19:30

Life's too short to waste it on wankers.

Boshankles · 22/07/2011 19:37

It seems to me a lot of the time the at fault partner is 100% at fault and the poster is not at fault at all.

I've never been in a relationship like that, and surely most aren't.

But if the man is abusive he should be dumped immediately.

FreudianSlipper · 22/07/2011 19:42

if it is an abusive relationship, and many are on here there is only one person to put 100% of the blame on to

and many woman are not in a position to just dump their partner, some are financially unable to some it is fear of what might and very well could follow. they need to build up not only their confidence but also need to make a plan that they can stick to in order to move on

it is very condescending to say i would not put up with that, i woudl move out/kick him out do you not think if it was that simple that is exactly what they would do

bail · 22/07/2011 19:42

Jazz, I totally agree.

Allhailtheaubergine... exactly the same thing happened to me. I posted a thread, looking for constructive advise. What did I get? An avalanche of one-liners, along the lines of "leave the f*cker" and "I would NEVER stand that from my DH". And then I responded that leaving my DH and tearing my DS from his beloved father had not crossed my mind and will never happen because I adore my DH and this was one specific incident. Nastiness then followed, along the lines that I am weak and pathetic.

You know what I think about all the name changes that happen in Relationships? I think it is when a poster has been one of the posters exclaiming that the best course of action would be to "walk out that door ASAP Girl!", and then of course something happens within her own relationship and she wants to post in order to receive the wisdom of the mumsnetters. Then she remembers her previous threads, feels a tad Blush and so name changes.

suburbophobe · 22/07/2011 19:52

I'm of the "amazed what people will put up with in a relationship".....

Would you accept your best friend/neighbour/co-worker/shop-assistant putting you down, criticising, making you doubt yourself at every turn?

And that's only the emotional abuse....

AnyFucker · 22/07/2011 19:54

bail, that's one heck of an accusation you are making there

can you back it up at all ?

motherinferior · 22/07/2011 19:58

God, I seem to see loads of posts saying 'sit down and talk to him and see his point of view and Work At The Relationship'.

Psammead · 22/07/2011 20:05

Wrt the OP, I think different people just have different 'dealbreakers' in relationships. So most any seriousish problem is going to get at least one person advising the OP to leave.