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I hate my husband

132 replies

Rahsofedup · 17/07/2011 22:13

  • he has no energy
  • he has no drive
  • he tuts at everything
  • he very rarely helps out at home
  • he promises to do things which he never does and gets upset when I remind him
  • he never initiates or wants sex and is happy for me to sort him out
  • when we try to talk he turns away from me or walks out of the room
  • he does not offer support when it is desperately needed, instead turns it round to how it makes him feel ( when sometimes a third party desperately needs support)
  • he says all the issues in our relationship are my fault ( I had an affair 3 yrs ago because I was fed up if being treated like a propstitute, I know that's not an excuse)
  • he has been depressed for many years and yet refuses to get counselling
  • he has no friends and yet constantly criticises mine
  • he rarely sees his family
  • he's keen to say we don't have anything to talk about because we don't care about each other and yet I try many, many times and fail
  • he won't have sex with me so we won't have children ( that's been an issue for 11 yrs)
  • just venting because he says that our relationship souring is all my fault. I never realised when I met him (I was a child) our lives would turn out like this. So, so fed up.

Not really sure what I'm asking but comments would be welcomed- our relationship has not changed post affair - it has unfortunately remained exactly the same

OP posts:
ledkr · 17/07/2011 23:18

rah-you can not change someone elses behaviour,only your response to it,if you dont like it respond accordingly.either get rid or tell him what you do and dont expect from the relationship,and certainly do not do anything you dont want to.

ledkr · 17/07/2011 23:19
Laquitar · 17/07/2011 23:20

I forgot to say that i was also worry that he will kill himself etc. Well he is still alive.

Stop playing Mother Terezza.

RandomMess · 17/07/2011 23:20

You cannot do anything to make someone else happy.

He will never be happy.

He is getting off on keeping you trapped and miserable so actually perhaps he is very happy with status quo.

Rahsofedup · 17/07/2011 23:24

I haven't posted before about this- I posted previously that I thought he had depression? ( perhaps someone else is lucky enough to have a similar husband!) I just wanted to rant tonight as feeling really fed up. I'm hoping i will have the confidence for it to be over but I do feel guilty about the depression and his isolation etc

OP posts:
turquoisetumble · 17/07/2011 23:24

I just want him to be happy

Well you'll get fuck all out of counselling if that's your aim.

I think you need counselling to get out of this hideous life you've got yourself into and to understand why you got there and make sure you don't do it again. You need to really understand that every morning you make a choice to accept this - that this is what you deserve and that everyone else is more important than you. Not a good recipe for happiness.

BoysAreLikeDogs · 17/07/2011 23:24

don't bother yourself with whether he is happy, that's not your responsibility

have you family that you could stay with?

Laquitar · 17/07/2011 23:26

Try to google co-depedency op

AnyFucker · 17/07/2011 23:27

if you are not a namechanger, then my apologies

you perhaps need a good nose around the Relationships thread about how to detach yourself from someone else's issues

AnyFucker · 17/07/2011 23:28

Relationships topic

FreudianSlipper · 17/07/2011 23:33

i was always attracted to men i needed to fix, they were all controlling in different ways, depressed, alcholoics, needy they all took from me but it fed my deep seeded need to feel wanted and loved

i am not taking away their abuse at all they decided to do that (and not all were abusive) but i have also recognised that needing is not the same as loving and i felt loved when needed.

loving someone makes people happy, needing someone makes people miserable its not the same thing

tallwivglasses · 17/07/2011 23:52

Agree with Freudian. OP, I do get that love him/hate him/pity him thing that's going on. Been there.

He'll survive without you. It might not be very nice for him but he'll learn a bit of independence hopefully, maybe seek some support.
When you leave (and you will) you have to cut contact completely
You know that already because you've obviously started sussing out his little tricks and games.

There's now't more depressing than seeing lovely, nice women getting sucked dry by needy, cock-lodgy, ought-to-be EX's. Get out. Please.

tallwivglasses · 17/07/2011 23:56

Wanted to add - there's an adventurous life waiting for you out there!

SpringchickenGoldBrass · 18/07/2011 00:52

As you don't have children with him, you can cut him off completely. he's an adult and either sorts himself out or ends up in a mess, but it's entirely up to him.

FellatioNelson · 18/07/2011 06:34

I don't know how old you are, but I think it's the wanting children thing that is keeping you there. I wonder if you are fearful that there is no time to find another man to have a family with (or not so much a time/age thing, but just that it won't happen) whereas, if you stay with your H then even though you are not happy there is still a chance that you might get PG. You feel that by leaving him you are throwing away the chance to have a baby.

But actually, the opposite is probably true.

NorksAreMessy · 18/07/2011 06:51

Listen to fellatio she talks sense.
If you cannot be a person in your own right, you are not in a good place to be a parent.

You are not being treated like an important part of this man's life, so start to be an important part of your own.

Get strong, get angry, get out.

FellatioNelson · 18/07/2011 07:06

Right. Let's get down to the practical issues. You say he has moved away with his job and wants you to follow him. Do you own a house? Will you need to sell it? This is the perfect opportunity to get out. Do nott ell him you intend to leave him until after the house is sold. Let him think you are moving to him. And do not buy another house - say you must rent in the new area until you are more familiar with it, etc. Then, once you have the house exchanged, tell him you are taking your half and leaving.

That way, he cannot emotionally blackmail you by walking out on his job or going off long-term sick with depression, or whatever. If he wants to do that let him, but he'll only be messing up his own financial security - not yours.

larrygrylls · 18/07/2011 07:11

Rah,

I have little time for those who jump on the bandwagon insulting the partners of people they don't know based on internet posts. And, judging by your post about your holiday, you do seem to have taken rather too enthusiastically to a childlike incompetent role concerning all things practical. Adults SHOULD be able to get themselves to an airport in the UK and a supermarket in a foreign country, unless there are major psychological issues.

It sounds to me as if you both married way too young and assigned yourselves relationship roles with which neither of you are no longer happy but which you cannot escape from.

Having said that, neither of you are happy and it does not sound as if, stuck in your present circumstances, either of you will ever be happy. Forgetting your husband, as this discussion is about you, it does seem the best thing for you to leave. I suspect that it is much easier to leave a relationship with debts rather than assets, as there is nothing financially to fight over. Just do it one easy step at a time. Firstly, go to the CAB and discuss the practical issues with regards to your debt, utilities etc. When you have sorted them out (you have a regular income so it is definitely sortable), then find a nice small flat for rent and start to enjoy a new life by yourself. I think it is important that an intelligent woman (and you are clearly that) learns how to deal confidently and competently with day to day situations. Maybe you can sort this out yourself or maybe this is an area where counselling would be useful.

If a year or tow down the road, you want to get back with your husband, it will still be possible. However, I suspect that once out, you will never want to be back again.

SayItLoud · 18/07/2011 07:26

If you earn a decent salary, he spends it, and you are in debt, why not start by taking back control of this area of your life? It will help you to separate, and be good for you in the long run.

Transfer any debt into one place, lowest rate credit card or loan possible, then cut up the card for this account so no spending on it. Cancel all of the other credit cards that are in your name. Work out a sensible, fair system of shared bills and payments. Aim to pay off your debt. If he accuses you of being controlling, as you say he will, just smile and agree, you do not need to change your behaviour because of what he says.

It does seem that him taking a job elsewhere gives you the perfect opportunity to facilitate a split. Have courage!

Helenfellows32 · 18/07/2011 07:34

As the others have said I think you do need to leave for yourself more than anything.

You keep making his issues your own, debt, no family etc.

A break will teach you to be a strong independant woman and give him the wake up call he needs. He is a big boy and you can't stay because he threatens to hurt himself, finances etc. Its really not your problem its his.

Be strong, you'll cope

Isetan · 18/07/2011 12:32

This situation has gone on long enough for you to know it isn't going to change, so stop making excuses for yourself, for whatever reason your not ready to leave this man.

Counselling for you and you alone is imperative, he's not making you stay, you're choosing to stay; debts, his depression are the excuses you give to maintain the status quo.

This isn't about him, its about you. If your self-worth was any where where it needs to be, there is no way you would let this continue. 11 years of "you being the problem" and "your inadequacies"; 11 long years of being trained in how to think, act and behave will do it. You can't see the extent of the erosion of your self-worth, to you, that sassy, independently minded chick is still very much there, she may well be, but she needs a good slap.

I ended it with my fuckwit of an ex because I wanted change and realised that being a mother meant I had run out of time. I had spent the previous ten years trying to change things, DD meant I had to stop making excuses and take action. At the time of the break-up I still loved him Confused despite the (with hindsight) shockingly disrespectful and hurtful things he did and said.

Your not ready to leave him but if you want to be ready then you need counselling, make that appointment.

As for hating your husband, you aren't even close because if you did, then one of you would be gone already.

Laquitar · 18/07/2011 13:37

I agree, you don't hate him now or not enough, you will hate him after you leave. The happier you will be and the better treated by others the more angry you will be at have stayed so long.

If you think you have invested so much and for so long to let it go, you just make this 'investment' (=wasted years) longer and longer every day, every week, every month.

Pigglesworth · 18/07/2011 13:43

You say you haven't posted here before about this - I think this is the thread people were reminded of:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/1043583-Is-this-a-normal-sex-life

At the very least this woman was going through extremely similar-sounding issues to you and you will probably find some great and relevant advice on there by reading through that (very large) thread.

ScarlettIsWalking · 18/07/2011 21:03

Yes that is the thread I though you were the OP. Apologies.

There are/were so many similarities.

swallowedAfly · 18/07/2011 21:21

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