The Brave Babes Carry On Past The Easter Booze Offers.

[NotTheMessiahJustMouseface]

Hello,

I'm Mouse, well, I am usually!

Welcome to the Brave Babes Bus.

This is a journey of sobriety, started almost a year ago by the wonderful jesuswhatnext. So why not come aboard and find a seat. There's heaps of support on here whether you are sober, drinking or somewhere in the middle.

And, for those of you who want a bit of history, here are the Previous Threads

Google it Chattex . . which is what I did when Miflaw mentioned it.

Or you could just use your keyboard to type, "what is Tradition 3?" and someone would tell you.

To save you the time, though, Tradition 3 (one of the Twelve Traditions, which are to AA as a whole what the Twelve Steps are to the individual; they are the nearest thing we have to "rules") states that "the only requirement for membership is a desire to stop drinking." There is no entry test; no pledge to swear or sign; no ultimate authority to acknowledge, on earth or elsewhere; and, as Tradition 7 states, "there are no dues or fees for AA membership"; we pay our own way via a weekly whip round, but no one is obliged to chip in, nor is there a minimum contribution.

Bit surprised you're asking, though; I'd have thought someone going out of their way to post a link to a site which gives the alternatives to AA would have seen AA from the inside and so have a pretty good grasp on what those alternatives were alternatives TO.

It is like talking about higher thetans to me.

See, I didn't know what that was and so I googled it. It was really easy actually.

I think I understand that you think it is complicated and nonsense. But then it's me that doesn't understand. What is complicated about saying, "the noly thing you need to belong to this group is a desire to stop drinking"? Is that very mystical or impractical, then? Seems very straightforward to me - perhaps I've just been brainwashed. Then again, it started young in me - I'd only been in the Scouts for a matter of weeks before my eyes glazed over and I started using strange jargon like "badge", "patrol" and "jamboree".

My original use of Tradition 3 as an expression was, of course, directed at someone else who had spent a little time in AA and so may have heard it used. Had I known that you, despite posting a link to an anti-AA website, actually had no experience of AA, I would of course have made an effort not to use "in-crowd" terminology.

My apologies.

I googled it too :)

ooohhh mif!, getting a vision of you with your woggle now!

yeah, i googled it too! , have i ever mentioned im blonde?

I'm not blonde JWN but eyes glazed over after first couple of lines:):)

well, you can imagine how i felt then!

JWN

Hello lovely Brave Babes.

Thank you all so very much for the wonderful Happy Birthday messages for Nemo

IsinDe - you are awesome! Great poem. I too have had a peek at your little poppets, they are uber cute and in need of some Mouse squidges.

Sorry to post without catching up. I've just got back from hospital, my ever troublesome wisdom tooth has finally been removed. They couldn't stop it bleeding so I had to go back down for more packing and stitches.

Nice.

Anyway, we've had a fantastic weekend, BBQ here yesterday with DH's folks, and a party on Sunday at my parent's house.

Right, off to catch up. xx

wow!, quiet evening here!, hope that means that everyone is ok?

im off to bed, its really cold and feet are like lumps of ice, lucky old dh eh!

see you all tomorrow!

L XXXXXXXXX

Well, I watched Secret Millionaire (blub) and was in bed by 10! Mind you, that's quite late for me!! Have my interview at 2.15this afternoon, so have the morning to prepare then an hour drive (gulp). It's mad cos I love driving around town but I get in a right state on 'big' roads. Wish me luck. I think they're interviewing about 5 people but it is something I think I;d be good at, so you never know. Have a great day all, and thanks for the support yesterday. Feeling a bit more positive today.

Morning all , lovely sunny one here today,

Jolly good luck for you interview today, changeling.

I was in bed by 10 last night, also. I slept really heavily, and I feel all headachey this morning, but at least I know that it wasn't because of anything other than tiredness! Still feeling a bit Yippee about getting back on track .

Have lovely days all.
xxxx

morning all!!

I was early to bed as well last night and slept like a log too!! I'm feeling better and better everyday, I feel like my whole mindset is changing - I feel like a proper mother and a proper human being for the first time in a long long time.

Good luck with the interview changeling let us know how you get on!!

Good luck changeling. I am also a nervous driver. I seemed to lose all my confidence in driving when I moved to London and had children.
Leave in plenty of time and some deep breaths.
You'll be fine.

Luci x

morning!

good luck changeling! just remember that the interviewers are just people!, ordinary people!

qo i cant tell you how pleased i am for you!, i remember that initial fog begininng to lift and how kind of 'light' i felt!, it is still lifting for me even after nearly a year, what frightens me is that now i look back, i cant imagine how i functioned for so long while feeling so utterly miserable and desperate , the saddest part of all of it was that for most of the time i didnt even realise how bloody i felt, what a fucking waste of time and life and love and experience!

anyway, enjoy the day, enjoy your garden and your children and your home and just for today

TODAY WE WILL NOT BE DRINKING!

love to you L XXXX

Morning everyone, cold and overcast here this morning, bit of a disappointment after the lovely weather we have had over the last couple of weeks.
Changeling the very best of luck with your interview.
Mouse at least you finally got rid of the flipping tooth!
Wow Qo you are sounding so much more positive.
Hi Luci, JWN, and Thurso :)

I am literally shaking at the thought of driving there How sad am I? The interview part is fine but i cannot get over this terror. What the hell am i going to do? I've even found a country-ish route that doesn't even involve motorways and isn't that mush different distance wise. i feel a failure already

come on changeling, you can do this!! You got the interview - bet loads of people didn't - which means you are a capable person who can tackle anything. Imagine you are following the Babes in Gerald as we head off in convoy. We are all cheering you on.

haha! You're right, I'm being daft. I will have a lovely bath before I go and breath lots of good thoughts (does that make sense....?) Even my 21 year old thinks i'm stupid refusing to go on the motorway! But she has just passed her test and has the confidence of 'yoof'.

Morning all.

Changeling - nice deep breathes. Something that I find helps is rescue remedy but it does contain a wee bit of alcohol. Maybe the balm, rubbed on your temples or some herbal Kalms if you can get to a chemist. It's more a psycholocial effect than a medical one IME, if you know you've taken something to help calm you, it will IYSWIM?

When you are driving there, something soothing on the stereo too, Classic FM or a relaxing CD. And if you feel yourself getting worked up, imagine a cool blue see, rolling in and then gently rolling out of the shore, in as you take a breath, out as you release it. Calm, deep blue sea, gently moving along the beach.

Or leave a half hour earlier so that is you have a slight wobble you can pull over and get yourself together without stressing about being late. Make sure you have the companie's number in your phone. And that you have some water in the car.

Nice firm handshake, smiles and lots of eye contact. And remember, THEY WANTED TO SEE YOU!!

GOOD LUCK !! xx

Whoops, same advice as luci

qo - fab post from you, so nice to see the changes in you.

thurso - great to see you smiling!

Luci - how are things with you know, the house and job situation? Sorry if you posted an update I missed. Are you still at your PIL?

Ma - how are you, really? xx

JWN - It's sad when you add up the time spent drinking and missing out on your families life. At least that is in the past, and we all have the chance to make up for it BIG TIME!!

Hey Mouse:)
Ma hope things have improved for you at home.

hey mouse
at "how are you REALLY?". I'm ok, kind of going through the motions a bit and not convinced there is going to be a long-lasting change but DH is trying very hard and some of the tension has lifted. Am going to spend a night at a friend's house on Saturday - no questions, no resentment, no text messages, DH has been warned!!! Give me more freedom or I will go.
Not drinking heavily right now, which is suprising, but not teetotal either....one battle at a time I think.
did Nemo have a lovely day?
Obrigada thanks for asking. How are things with you?