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Dumpling no more - only the strong survive and we did No.3

1001 replies

Teaandcakeplease · 06/03/2011 16:20

At first I was afraid, I was petrified
Kept thinkin' I could never live without him by my side;
But then I spent so many nights
Thinkin' how you did me wrong
And I grew strong Smile

This thread is for ex dumplings. Any dumpling that feels like she has "mostly" moved past crisis into an "almost" sorted state can post and chat here as we continue our quest for serenity with a lot of laughs along the way and support.

OP posts:
partytime · 20/03/2011 22:54

Thanks for the replies. I just wanted to say that I have a huge amount of self respect and wouldn't let anyone treat me badly again. It really is a case of his actions not matching his words, you know when you get that feeling that he is well and truly involved, can anyone be such a good actor/conman!!!!

He has txt me to ask if he can see me tomorrow night. So where is he getting time and space from me. I said that it would be lovely to see him but I thought he wanted to do some thinking. So he's coming over on Tuesday now. We'll see how that goes.

And yes Starting it does hurt like hell, I can't believe I'm going through this again.

startingovernow · 20/03/2011 23:04

Party, well that sounds good at least he's not pulling away completely. Just sounds like he's probably struggling to keep everything afloat atm. It doesn't sound like he's an actor/conman from what you've said.

On an entirely different matter I forgot to mention earlier that I treated myself to one of these today Big Hair. Met a friend last week & her hair was looking fab she swore by this so I duely HAD to have one Hmm. I will report back on my success tomorrow Smile.

Patienceobtainsallthings · 20/03/2011 23:10

Ur self respect will get u thru this pt,
Starting I know I still have a connection with X .I don't want him back but its certainly not indifference yet.It's like a heroin addict knowing they can't ever touch the stuff again or it will kill them.just another phase of healing I guess ,the calmer our relationship gets ,the more I realise there is still a lot of pain regarding our break up.I have acceptance but I would love indifference and not crying .

Patienceobtainsallthings · 20/03/2011 23:16

Just have to keep telling myself I'm on the right track x

Patienceobtainsallthings · 20/03/2011 23:18

Loving the big hair

partytime · 20/03/2011 23:26

Patience indifference is the hardest level to reach and although I know how I feel about new DP, my ex still stirs such huge emotions in me. When I saw him this week to discuss money, I was tearful, but for the loss of my previous life rather than the man himself. I strive for the indifference, it will be hard to achieve especially as he and OW are having a ball.

partytime · 20/03/2011 23:27

Forgot to add ex and OW having a great time together makes me so angry, she's living my life.

Patienceobtainsallthings · 20/03/2011 23:39

But she's not pt,but I agree its easier for them to move on when they are with a new partner.my friend telling me she saw her in my seat in our family car broke my heart back in Nov. but I know I'm much better out of it and my kids have a better life now.For me its all about letting him go and moving on and I will get there.

Patienceobtainsallthings · 20/03/2011 23:47

Also remember a lot of stuff re gf s we only imagine in our heads.Best not to give time to negative thoughts like that x

gettingeasier · 21/03/2011 07:04

I was thinking yesterday about how it would have been so much less painful if xh had just left and been single and he and I had been on a road to recovery on an equal footing. That the jealousy that he has someone else to get him through it all is so unfair. Then I realised that if that had have been the case I would have taken far longer to accept it was really over between us because I would have kept thinking he would realise he had made a mistake and would want to come back. As it was although it was much more painful it was also much quicker to get to where I am now.

For me party ow is living my life but she is welcome to it and I mean that. On friday when I came through the door and xh was finishing moving his stuff out the first thing he said to me was "I know you dont want to talk about what happened yesterday" (the blow up with the dc and what ow had said) to which I calmly replied "How do you know I dont want to talk about it ?" So he says "Well I dont want to talk about it I was so upset last night" Now to me that small sentence encapsulates his attitude telling me what I think, projecting that he doesnt want to talk onto me and also just trying to control in that we arent going to talk about it.

OW is , for now, living my life in that she has him doting on her , speaking respectfully to her and him doing everything for her etc. The thing is though he had long since stopped doing those things for me and would never have returned to doing them. To me therefore she may as well being getting all that from him because it doesnt change anything for me if that makes sense.

Also however much doting she is enjoying she will still be living with his views on the world, his sense of entitlement which may not be showing yet but it assuredly will , his self importance and all the rest of it. For now he has his drinking under control but going into the future I am sceptical that will last forever. What has always convinced me ow is a gold digger is that she served him his drinks for years and must have seen him totally paralytic dozens of times yet she she still jumped on him when the chance arose. Who would want a guy that goes out every single night and weekend leaving his family at home while he gets drunk ? Of course maybe she thinks she could change him and on the face of it he has changed I suppose but I am unconvinced it will last.

I do feel I have finally reached a place of indifference. When I approached the house on friday and saw the van outside and knew I would have to talk to him I felt nothing even after the blow up of the previous day. Listening to his tired old self congratulation about his financial generousity yet again I just thought "Sigh"

I know when we have left this house this will be even stronger and looking ahead when I have a job and hopefully my teeth into something that challenges/occupies me these thoughts around our marriage will vanish completely.

I was chatting to my sister about this and saying I would never have thought so many emotions and thoughts could exist about the breakdown of a relationship. Also that I would never have thought it possible that being in a relationship could take over your whole life and personality at every level.

Anyway today I am going to chase up xh on sorting out which solicitor we are using for the divorce as its been 2 weeks now. My house moving solicitor is on holiday this week so there wont be any news on that but hopefully next week we will get an exchange of contracts date.

Patienceobtainsallthings · 21/03/2011 10:59

X just as angry as ever today really abusive ,he said he was paying maintenance this week and now he says he's not just need to get things sorted can't live like this anymore ,messing kids around re money and visits is awful.I think thats why I'm a bit down tbh,I'm still looking at him to support us and he still is letting us down

Patienceobtainsallthings · 21/03/2011 12:33

CAN'T BELIEVE WHAT A PRICK THIS GUY TURNED OUT TO BE !!!

sorry folks but to be a selfish bastard to ur kids is the lowest of the low.

I had to say out loud today ,this is not about me ,please stop shouting at me ,this is for the kids.

Patienceobtainsallthings · 21/03/2011 12:39

He said maybe you should try working for a change and pay ur own way.I had to say again this is nothing to do with what i earn,this is legally what u have to pay for ur kids.
Its just so draining ,i want to be able to have peace but all the time im left fighting for what is legally theirs .Just a selfish bastard.Trying my best to see everything in a better light but he is the bitter one ,he has the anger ,he has the blame ,well you have 2 kids mate ,so maybe its about time YOU PAID FOR THEM !

Patienceobtainsallthings · 21/03/2011 14:11

OK ,without losing my serenity or going backwards ,I am instead going with an angry slant today because leopards dont change their spots and I cant really be arsed with this and i am dealing with a right spotty bastard.
Re money and visits he has never stepped up to the plate so done all my paperwork and away to hand deliver all my forms to my sollicitor .
Just cant be arsed with it anymore ,if it means i have to be tough so be it ,

Visualising maintenance payments regularly being paid by standing order.........

thereturnofElsieTanner · 21/03/2011 17:08

Hi. Been a bit side tracked by WorlfOfUncertainty's thread as it has similarities to my own situation although her H seems much more manipulative than my X who is just plain stupid. It has made me feel a bit low though, especially when I look at ds. Ok cheat on me, but why involve your own child? There is no answer to that. It is beyond my comprehension. It has made me realise that I might never forgive XP for what he did.

Patience, I'm sorry that H is still messing about with your money. Leave it to the solicitor now. Do you get legal aid?

Getting, I hope you get some definite dates soon.

Feeling so drained today. So much to do but it's one of those staring into space days today. Perhaps my batteries are re-charging. I think someone has hypnotised me. Hope everyone else feels a bit more lively.

Patienceobtainsallthings · 21/03/2011 17:35

Have applied elsie but dont know yet, if not i will be footing the whole bill of the divorce ...woo hoo ,it just gets better and better.
Thing that gets me is the money or visits are not for me .Im just really sad about this now.I seriously dont need this in my life anymore.
Told him how i feel and tried to keep it civil but this is no use to me or the kids .Hope solicitor can get things moving ,just want it in court signed and OVER.
Just a bastard .

Sorry ur a bit blue ET ,i feel the same about loads to do but 2morrow is another day.

gettingeasier · 21/03/2011 17:36

Elsie I have had so many days like that , wasnt it you who made the analogy of bones healing or something ? Yes I read that thread and thought of you it must have made diificult reading. Just sit quietly and make sandwichs for tea x

So I have been bustling about sorting drawers etc and then back in the loft. Somehow a box evaded me when I was doing this last week and it was full of cards from xh and cards he did on behalf of the dc for me. I had honestly forgotten how well loved I had been and for so long. I absolutely wept for about 2 minutes and then calmy went through the lot. I then went through piles of young dc artwork etc and found all the cards and pictures which they had done for him over the years carefully packed it up and drove it to his house. All emotional stuff is done now Smile

Patience I think its time to revert to solicitors maybe that in itself will buck him up

Waves to everyone especially Happy who has all but vanished...?

Patienceobtainsallthings · 21/03/2011 19:42

Forms all delivered ,getting.
Handing it over to my higher power now.

Patienceobtainsallthings · 21/03/2011 19:52

Getting I bought artwork portfolio folders from art shop for a tenner,great for storing and travelling kids pictures x

thereturnofElsieTanner · 21/03/2011 19:54

Getting, there are many similarities with my situation including the bereavement and especially the way OW was introduced to the family and XP planning to keep us both on the go. Heartbreaking. But I got angry from day one, really angry. I knew it was unacceptable and I knew I would cope alone however hard. Sounds like WOU had the stuffing knocked out of her a long time ago. Her H is a manipulative bastard whereas mine is a thick bastard. Glad you got the box of emotional stuff out of the way. And a two minute weep is very good on so many levels.

Patience, it looks like we got stuck with 2 of life's wasters.

Teaandcakeplease · 21/03/2011 19:58

Oh Patience the crap you have to deal with. Really hope the solicitor can sort it. That's a big job done completing and handing over the forms. Sending you strength x

Getting that's truly rubbish to find yet more stuff and painful memories, well done for going through it and dropping it off.

Elsie I have days like that a lot. Agree with Getting sandwichs for tea. I found with threads I advised on that sometimes it stirred up painful memories for me as well. I've felt more stable lately as I've been too busy focussing on just a few regular threads only.

Really enjoyed your big post on Monday Getting it spoke such sense and loved the vibe from you as I read it. Well done on the Maths.

ExH and OW "on a break" Hmm still, she's still bombarding him with texts and e-mails saying she's wasted 2 years of her life with him etc. He won't budge on seeing kids regularly, so unless she accepts it it's over. I'm so glad he's sticking to his guns as the kids love seeing him. Feels dead odd though tbh!

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thereturnofElsieTanner · 21/03/2011 20:11

Goodness, Tea. How on earth will you feel if it really is the end now? What a silly, silly man. I mean silly for exchanging his family for a doomed relationship, not silly for putting his dc first.

I may have to step away from the other thread. It is very distressing and the poor op just cannot see what is happening. She's not ready to hear the truth whereas I wanted to know the very worst right from the word go.

Teaandcakeplease · 21/03/2011 20:15

I would Elsie, hide the thread some people cannot and will not see it.

Yes Elsie he's already said he cannot believe what he put me and the kids through and now things have gone like this. He sometimes says how much he cares for her, which also feels odd but in a weird detached way nowadays. I feel sorry for him, as I do not want him back. I do not feel attracted to him anymore at all. I don't think he wants me back either tbh. Sad.

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Patienceobtainsallthings · 21/03/2011 20:21

Can u believe it Elsie?
Thats the bit that gets me ,i understand the bit about getting dumped ,hey shit happens ,but dumping ur own flesh and blood for the sake of drink,fags and a 21yo gf,that is why im still in shock/denial ,its like deja vu,2010 he jerks ME about ,2011 he repeats excactly the same pattern with his dcs.

Patienceobtainsallthings · 21/03/2011 20:34

Tea it is just sad.I just think its so sad that all over the country you have families like ours,growing up without knowing a father in the home.Its great ur X wants to be in their lives though.

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