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Update from OP ** Title edited by MNHQ** Why did I have his (unplanned) baby?? Knew I didn't love him

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circlehead · 27/01/2011 15:25

I feel like I've really messed up. I realise how irresponsible this will sound (please bear in mind I was only 21 when this started):

I met DP 2 years ago and it was always apparent to me that this guy wasn't ''the one''. Our early relationhip was very lustful and exciting, mainly because we were living in different places so weekends would be spent in bed etc. He is an artist and as such can be moody/stubborn/opinionated. Somehow we ended up living together, because we both wanted to move to London. I did express at the time that I wasn't sure we were ready to move in together but this led to (our first) row. I realise now this was a red flag of his controlling nature and should have ended it then...but of course it was easier to agree with him than suffer his moods. A couple of months later, I was accidently pregnant (we were using contraception). As much as it was evident to me that I didn't want to be in this realtionship for the long haul and had in fact been thinking of ending it, I just couldn't bring myself to have a termination. I felt so fiercly protective of my baby, I couldn't even read about the process of an abortion, let alone go through with it. He was quite happy to have the baby from the start (minus a few wobbles) so we went ahead and I resolved to try and make the relationship work. (I should point out that he was happy with us, we obvs have v. different opinions on what a loving relationship is!!)

He was pretty useless throughout pregnancy, didn't read any books, spent the first few months saying he didn't want to be there at the birth (for a reaction and just to have the upper hand while i was vulnerable, my friend says - true?), every time we had a scan he would come but just go on about how he didn't like hospitals, I researched/bought ALL the baby stuff etc (with financial help from grandparents i must point out), the list goes on. I was trying to maintain a clean/tidy flat for us, but he's a messy pig and no matter how many times I explained it was getting difficult for me to do housework and he was going to have to make an effort to pick up after himself, it never changed.

And now we have a fantastic little boy (5 months) who I love to bits, and you guessed it, I do almost exclusively EVERYTHING for him. My DP enjoys playing with him but that is where it ends basically. I have been EB from the start, so I basically do all feeding, nappies, getting up, getting dressed, putting down for naps, bathtimes, washing, packing his stuff for when we go out/away... EVERYTHING morning, noon and night! my DP wouldn't even know where his vests are kept for example! I realise this is true is most relationships to some degree but ?!?! AND before you say leave him with baby for a day and let him see what it's like, DS won't take a bottle of EBM off him! (will everyone else though..)

On top of this my DP seems to expect me to keep on top of his laundry, the food shopping etc. He does cook a lot but that's as much as he does. The one thing that really irriates me is that aside from a few bits of self employed work (maybe a few days at a time every couple of months) he doesn't work. He is a fantastic musician and trying to launch his band, and has got ''investment'' - from his dad. So he basically lives off his dad's money. It has come up in rows so many times but he just says that I don't mind it when it's paying for my rent/occasional meal out etc.

He's just a spoilt brat and I feel like his mother most of the time (where's this/that/the other, why isn't my insert clothing here washed?) He seems to think because he is busy with his band (which I admit does involve many meetings/emails/lots of phonecalls etc) he is exempt from chores/babycare.

I'm actually starting to think he may be depressed (maybe post natal?) He has incredibly erratic sleep patterns, which he attributes to being creative, and sleeps in til nearly noon everyday/ goes to bed at 4am.

Anyway, the point is I told him a couple of
days ago that I don't love him but want to give things a last try (this almost feels like just going through the motions for his benefit when I know I want out.) He is really shocked and thought everything was just dandy (?? sure it is for him!!). He also said that he blamed DS, although I think he just said that for a reaction.

I just feel so ashamed of myself for getting this far with DP, knowing I should have broken it off before we even moved in together. I feel like I should have had a termination as now feel awful for dragging DS into it =( although as i said, I adore my boy to death. I realise that being a single parent isn't the end of the world but would have wanted a much better father for any children of mine and obvs for it to be someone i loved/respected. Although I have talked to my friends who support me, I am embarrassed to admit this stuff to my family.

So. What the hell do I do??! Actually I think i know the answer to that one, so rather - how the hell do i do it?

Thanks for reading my massive post...

Thread title has been edited by MNHQ as OP has posted an update...6 years on! And it's worth a read.

OP posts:
BlueFergie · 03/02/2011 14:12

You don't love this guy...why are you wasting your time and his?

What is the point in being in a relationship just for his sake? It will never work.

Go, fgs go.

circlehead · 03/02/2011 14:23

an excellent point. I can't answer that. You are right, it would just be for his sake...

OP posts:
FoghornLeghorn · 03/02/2011 14:30

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BlueFergie · 03/02/2011 14:44

Yes it is. Look hopefully your DP has ,learnt enough of a lesson so that he can be a good and responsible parent to your DS when he has access to him. This is what all your energies should be on now (both of you) - organising and coming up with a good co-parenting relationship.

You are young, you have somewhere to go and support. There is no reason for you to remain in a relationship that is not adding to your life.

circlehead · 03/02/2011 15:26

I suppose I am trying to do the ''right'' thing... but your points are valid, and bluefergie I had already thought what you said about this making him grow up and be more responsible than he would ever be if we stayed together.

I can feel another talk coming on this eve.

OP posts:
kepler10b · 03/02/2011 15:39

well done for coming to the realisation.

if you need anymore affirmation of your own feeling he is not someone you should be in a relationship with then add my vote.

circlehead · 07/02/2011 15:40

oh god. what a traumatic weekend.

I tried to gently explaining to DP the points above, ie I can't just stay with him because I feel guilty about taking DS away, that I don't see a future with him and I don't want to waste his time stringing him along essentially.

He went mental. I mean literally insane. This conversation happened to come up in the car with DS, not at all where I would have wanted it to take place, but these things always seem to come up at the worst time. We were parked and he was punching the steering wheel as hard as he could, then crying uncontrollably, got to the point where he was begging me to take DS out the car so he could go and drive off and kill himself. The only thing I could do to calm him down was promise to give things another go. I know that sounds cowardly and I should have stood my ground but he was in such a state, I really wouldn't have put it past him to go and write the car off.

After things calmed down, he said just wants a chance to win me back basically and if it becomes clear that's not happening, then he'll accept that it's over, but he can't believe I want to give up on it so soon.. Confused .

Ended up talking to his mum alone (not the best person obviously) who just made me feel selfish for wanting to end things, just saying stuff like think very carefully before making any decisions, DS has to come first, he deserves the best childhood. Also told me some of her friends have been married to men they don't love for 40 years (great! and that's meant to make me feel better how??) She was just listing every negative about splitting up, ie new partners etc.

The way I feel at the moment is I would rather just stay in this relationship with a man I don't love, as it's obviously so horrifically selfish of me to want to do anything else. According to DP's mum it seems to be on a par with child abuse.

So where do I do from here?

Anyone got ANY idea?!?!

OP posts:
JustForThisOne · 07/02/2011 15:52

why am I not surprise he reacted this way?

OP you need to ask for help in RL, Women Aid and the rest, it looks like you cannot go through this on your own at present and his mother is the last person who can help you

JustForThisOne · 07/02/2011 15:54

hemm
where is the thread that some poster had written with all the things to put in place even before speaking to partner and planning to leave? Can anyone remember/find that?

AnyFucker · 07/02/2011 16:03

Dear God

You are the victim of a supreme act of selfishness and manipulation

You have decided to say with this man because he threatened suicide and because his moher told you to ?

It can never, never work

You must despise him by now, I certainly do and I don't even know him

How is that a basis for a healthy relationship?

Lokk, nobody has the right to make you stay with them this is your life not theirs

What on earth are you thinking ?? Confused

I truly think it would be kinder for him in the long run if you just tell him it is over, and he can do his worst

he isn't going to kill himself, people like this ever do, it's just another instrument of torture to make you feel guilty

lulabellarama · 07/02/2011 16:09

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HandDivedScallopsrgreat · 07/02/2011 16:44

circlehead - I've been where you are in terms of staying in a relationship to save the fallout from leaving. It isn't worth it and it wastes more time and energy. Be brave, make the decision to leave and stick to it. As AF says he won't do anything to himself - they never do. Even if he does that is his call.

I can't believe he didn't think you were unhappy. More likely he did't think that you would leave.

Your Dad sounds great btw. Let him help you.

NicknameTaken · 07/02/2011 17:01

You would feel guilty about taking your DS away from this man? Why, because you like the idea of him growing up to witness more scenes of his father punching the steering wheel and threatening suicide?

He's trying every manipulation in the book. "I'll be nice!" "I'll kill myself!" "You're so selfish!" Seriously, more reason than ever before to take your boy and go. Don't live like this, honestly. It's no way to spend a life.

AnyFucker · 07/02/2011 17:30

You have made a very large mistake to capitulate here

But it's not too late to put it right

NNT is so right...is this behaviour something you want to expose your son to ?

BlueFergie · 07/02/2011 18:11

Oh circlehead. I am sorry that he reacted this way but really not surprised.
Please don't sacrifice your own happiness for his. Why does he deserve to get what he wants and you don't? He doesn't.
Don't listen to your MIL...ask your Dad what does he think?
Do you think you will ever love this man again? If so, by all means give it another go..if not then stop wasting time and get out.
In your situation now I would just leave, when he is out if thats easier. Leave him a note saying it is over, you want to work together to raise your son but you no longer want a relationship, your mind is made up.
It is not selfish to want to have a relationship with a partner that you love and respect..it is common sense and self preservation. What sort of a wreck emotionally and mentally are you going to be if you live with this man for the next 40 years?

NicknameTaken · 08/02/2011 10:10

And the thing is, if you yield, you've shown him what behaviour works to get him his own way. You've handed him the weapon he will use against you for ever after.

AnyFucker · 08/02/2011 10:14

where have you gone, OP ?

circlehead · 09/02/2011 12:11

the plan is to go back to my dad's this weekend with DS as if I were visiting, and call him from there and just tell him it's over.

Do you think that's a reasonable course of action given the circumstances? He will go absolutely ballistic and I just can't deal with that face to face. Also I want DS to be out of that envioronment. I imagine he will probably get blind drunk and trash the flat.

Terrified he knows what I'm thinking...Sad I'm actually shaking a bit just typing this.

OP posts:
madonnawhore · 09/02/2011 12:18

He only throws a tantrum because he's used to having everything his own way.

Just go.

NicknameTaken · 09/02/2011 12:43

Yes, yes! Very sensible course of action. Your first responsibility is to ensure that you and your DS are out of harm's way. Do it!

BalloonSlayer · 09/02/2011 12:55

Yes I think that is what I would do too.

You could call his Mum straight away afterwards and let her know, so she can check on him, if you are worried he will go berserk. Or get your Dad to call her, if you fear further emotional blackmail.

You sound very sensible and a good person.

BurnAfterReading · 09/02/2011 13:04

Circlehead - please go to your dads, the sooner the better...

Take only what you absolutely need, material stuff doesn't matter atm.

Just take a deep breath and go.

CarolinaRua · 09/02/2011 13:10

I agree with the other posters. Go to your Dads and maybe meet somewhere to discuss the issues. I dont get any indication from what you said that he would be violent to you so I think calling him Mum is a good idea.

Until he acts mature, outline that you cannot allow him to see the baby on his own.

AnyFucker · 09/02/2011 13:31

just go, go, go

get you and ds out of this toxic situation

you cannot stay because you fear his reaction, that is no way to live

AnyFucker · 09/02/2011 13:33

Caroline, please be aware that if OP is scared of a violent reaction, she is most likely to be right

many women in dangerous and abusive situations downplay the risk to themselves, not exaggerate it

if she is scared of him, there will a very good reason

she doesn't have to see him face-to-face at all until she is good and ready (if at all)

any child visitation can be done through a 3rd party, if necessary