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Chin Up and Tits Out for the Recently Ditched No. 11

931 replies

Teaandchristmascakeplease · 29/12/2010 19:03

Dearly Be-Chucked, we are gathered here today because, for whatever reason, our man has dumped us!

Whether you are a new dumpling or a vet, feel free to join us in our quest for serenity

Smile Sad Angry [shocked]

OP posts:
littlecritter · 06/01/2011 21:24

Patience, I think my relationship was also largely based on sexual attraction so I too must be shallow (but we're not shallow, are we?). The thing I am most jealous of is that he's having sex with someone else. Even though he's only got a very small penis. And I say that from vast personal and professional experience (nurse). I do miss the intimacy though.

fairygirl3 · 06/01/2011 21:25

lc pmsl at small penis

BringOnTheGoat · 06/01/2011 21:27

Thanks everyone. My counsellor said what we had wasn't love - she said these types of dysfunctional relationships are not love, and the feelings i'm having are about attachment. Really thinking she has a point. If love is about respect - respecting each other - I don't think I've ever been loved by a man Sad Always seem to be attracted to men who push boundaries too far or who are morally dubious. Think there is some thrill there for me, maybe I'll be the one to change them. I dunno - am probably talking (typing?) shite. I miss him though Sad - am pissing myself off Angry

Babysit was just turn of phrase btw, would have said same if he went out and someone asked what I was doing (although it did feel like babysitter was here as he's no father!)

BringOnTheGoat · 06/01/2011 21:28

LC - I read these posts and am convinced XH was bigamist Grin

littlecritter · 06/01/2011 21:38

Haha, Goat. Is it the small penis? When I found out about the affair I asked xp if I could ask him a really personal question, "did OW ever mention that your dick is unusually small? You're good in bed and you know that but your dick is actually very small." Thing is I'm not jesting. His penis is actually very small.

littlecritter · 06/01/2011 21:44

Goat, just re-reading about love = respect versus attachment. Mmm, do I respect xp? Nope, not at all. Not as a father, a partner, a son or a fiend. Not at all.

romneymarsh · 06/01/2011 21:46

LC - you are really making me laugh, bet that really hurt him! I probably wouldnt have known any different as I havent seen many mens appendages!!

littlecritter · 06/01/2011 21:46

Friend obviously. Freudian slip.

KateonMN · 06/01/2011 21:49

Hello!
My ex doesn't say sorry or offer explanations - at the moment I'm so detached that we don't have those sort of conversations.

Before I found out about the OW - I had it all "didn't love me enough" "wasn't the same love he used to have for me" "He just wanted it to be like it was before we had kids"

Once it emerged about the other woman - he wouldn't dare to start up with that bullshit to me. I know the reason and it's simple.

He wanted some new P*ssy. That's all, and his kids, family, commitment and our 13 year relationship didn't come into his head. There was one thing on his mind (and still is!)

I am being so nice when we swap the children over - & it's freaking him out. After actually being quite civil to me at Xmas time - now he's back at work...in the office that ALL know about the loved up twosome thanks to my email...he's gone very cold with me again.

Yes, he's cross at me. Apparently, I caused his dick to make contact with the new woman in the office didn't I? Oh no - that's not the crime in all this - it was letting people know that he's not the family man he portrays and perky tits isn't quite the the professional she likes to make out.

Don't care, just facing the articness with serenity and cheeriness.

I am not going to allow them to think that I am wallowing in grief for one second.

I am not going to allow him to think that he's pissed on my chips and I'll never be happy.

He wasn't that fucking great. And he's all hers now.

Chin up ladies! We will find someone who loves our dc simply because they are part of us and someone who will worship the ground we float above.

littlecritter · 06/01/2011 21:51

Romney, I was a bit of a wild child and have been a nurse for nearly 30 years. I would say that xp is within the 25th centile as far as penis size goes Grin.

googoomama · 06/01/2011 21:51

Hello everyone. Bloody hell, back at work already swamped by paperwork and 4 year old who hates school and is just not sleeping. Patience, I think you are starting to regain your warrior qualities...hope you are feeling a bit more upbeat. All of our exes are just the same tbh. Completely self obssessed and completely lacking in any sort of empathy for anyone but themselves.
LC - oh how brilliant about small dicks. First man I was with after exh had a VERY small dick (but also a huge ego). First time he stayed over he was having a cuppa in the kitchen when my youngest came in and a propos of nothing said "Dave, do you have a big willy? My daddy's got a HUGE willy" then smiled sweetly and went off. It was excruciating!
And exbf of a year wasn't very well hung either and he didn't half fart on...lots of airy fairy stuff which was quite nice but tbh I ended up just wanting a normal run of the mill shag, instead of some sort of tantric experience! Blimey - told you all rather a lot there!!!!
BOTG - nice to have you back. Your post really rang true with me - I've never been properly loved either. Agree about the thrill, it's a challenge and when you don't have a lot of self worth (even if you do in other areas of your life) you somehow think that an emotionally unavailable man is a catch, rather than realising he's a wanker. That's what I did with exbf.

BringOnTheGoat · 06/01/2011 21:53

Am intrigued now LC - really intrigued!! I never really cared about the size but can't help and 'joke' to him about it

Did you respect him before all this though? Am thinking that although he showed me no respect, i don't hink I respected him either. He did so much I 'disapproved' of - debt, drugs, drinking - think I couldn't respect those choices deep down. Kinda lost respect for myself on the way.

fairygirl3 · 06/01/2011 21:55

bring like what your counsellor has to say,has gave me something to think about.
Not sure how i am doing,i realised tonight that the reason i think i seem to be coping is i feel i may have shut down a lot of my emotions as some kind of self protection,realised this as i have not got the kind of feelings/emotions i normally have. Cant remember who it was that wrote their to do list for this year but i am going to do one of them.
Still have not contacted a solicitor i feel by doing that its admiting its over and although i am facing up to the fact it is thats not a step i am ready to face.
Really need to sort out my hatred and make sure it does not impact on the kids after all it is me who he stopped loving not them but it does not stop me when he texts (rarely) to ask "how are the kids " i want to text back "like you care" rise above it i tell myself

littlecritter · 06/01/2011 21:55

Good on you Kate. I, too, exposed the miserable feckers at work via text. I truly believe xp lost all thoughts of reconcilliation after that. Ho hum. What goes around, comes around.

Teaandcakeplease · 06/01/2011 21:59

I think I?ve just been to heaven Wink Watched an Audience with Michael Bublé, with chocolate and a glass of wine. Wine and chocs all gifts. Mmmm lush!

Right now to finish my catch up. I?ll be behind again by tomorrow morning though I suspect, as I need an early night. I?m shattered

Crikey Googoo I can?t believe how your Ex treated your 7 yr old little boy on Tues night, that?s so harsh. I used to help on children?s Summer Camps with 8 ? 11 yr olds and the 8 yr olds bless them, (I loved them) they?re still so young, as is 7. Goodness me. I loved nurturing them and helping them enjoy the week away without their parents and building their confidence. Your Ex is a rotter (to put it mildly). I?d like to say Googoo that despite the touch of Envy about your friend divorcing and finding love quickly, you?re in good company here as most of us here are still single my lovely. I?d probably feel a little envious too if it was a pal of mine in the same situation as me and met someone lovely.

Fairy my love, glad you?re going to the GP. Sometimes it?s easier to use a solicitor to agree all finances and not discuss privately at all. Maybe that?s the better route for you if he is being unreasonable? With legal aid I had a final fee of about £239 only and I had the option of there being a charge on my property or paying it. In the end the judge ordered my ex H to pay it I believe. I think the sooner you see the solicitor, the sooner you?ll feel more at peace to be honest. My ex H doesn?t live in suitable accommodation to have my DCs over night right now either, when he moves somewhere bigger with a room for them, then he?ll probably have them every other weekend and one night in the week when he doesn?t have them that weekend. At the moment he comes here to see them. In your situation as he smokes dope and you?ve had a lot of problems with him, seek advice from Womens Aid/ Solicitor asap. Get CSA involved for your child support lovely, and book apt at the job centre in the lone parent dept asap too lovely. You will also be eligible for healthy start vouchers and tax credits. All a big help to me. You do not have to start the actual divorce Fair yet but meeting with the solcitor will help you a lot and ease the worries you have.

Patience at certain times of the month my hormones have a lot to answer for in how I feel. Maybe some of your longing is linked to that? Where?s that Rabbit Wink Love the new year resolutions.

Cloudedview my survival tip as my boy teethed almost constantly and my H was never there, was to slather his gums in bonjela wait a minute or so and then feed him until dopey after and lie him down. He?d sleep for 3 hrs until it wore off then I repeated it all again. My two began teething at 3 months, hard times. Sending you ((hugs))

LC ? even my Ex H hasn?t truly shown remorse, he has said recently he regrets his actions. Whoopee doo Mr! I?m glad to see the anger coming out now. WWIFN speaks sense as usual. So sorry to hear about your dream LC sounds horrid Sad I used to call my ex H a selfish weazley coward and your H would get on well with him, they lie as it?s easier as they?re wimps. I enjoyed shouted and raving at H for a while in the early days as I processed everything, very cathartic Wink It?s the injustice of it all that also makes the feelings rage I find. After everything you have done for them, they deceive us and betray us in the most painful way. My Ex H was also awful with money, just wasted it and is up to his eye balls in debt now too. Very glad I no longer share a bank account with him now, my money goes a heck of a lot further now. I used to feel sick as I logged into the bank account online on what I?d find.

Googoo loving the advice you?re giving. My Ex H is now just their Daddy, it happened somewhere along the way, not sure when though Confused

Romney ? I also had OW parents address and wanted to write to them, after much thought (and prayer) I decided not to. She finally told her parents about my Ex H this Christmas I believe after their secret sordid affair for nearly 2 years?

Makedoandmend ? I upload all my photos to Snapfish and they?re saved there, it doesn?t take long. Hope you manage to do it quick tonight my lovely. Ahhh I?m so glad my ex H doesn?t live here now too, the place is so much cleaner and tidier. Yuck at the nose blowing into sinks

Goat ? can?t put it better than the other fine ladies, but do not be harsh on yourself for kissing him. Man your counselors words struck a cord with me too. I also say babysitting when my Ex H looks after them.

I always felt loved if my ex H and I had a good sexual relationship but he often never felt like it, which seriously affected my self esteem, he also had an erectile dysfunction although he denies it but he seriously did, it was very frustrating. I do not miss the physical side at all with him now, funny really. So happy alone. I think his secret porn addiction and other lies about the premium rate phone lines etc just creeps me out when I think back now.

Today went great, mum came without dad and was really good with the kids, it was a relief, thanks for asking LC, I like to think my prayers paid off Wink We all have our things that keep us strong at difficult times and my faith is defo mine.

Kate your post made me smile, you go girl!

littlecritter · 06/01/2011 22:05

Goaty, did I respect him before this? Honestly? No, I didn't. Licking his knife was just the tip of the iceberg. The main thing is his financial irresponsibility. That has been a feature of our relationship form the 3rd date when he couldn't take me 10 pin bowling because he couldn't get any cash out. And he wasn't embarrassed in the slightest. I used to feed him, sub him, bail him out with £ even though I was a single parent myself. Never forget when he came to my work to borrow cash on his way to the airport. Like a fool I gave it to him. He borrowed £2k from his elderly parents in 1998 and still hasn't given them a penny back. And he lives with them now, rent free of course. He is one of those people that says "I still have £2k on my credit card" like it is his money, an asset rather than a debt.

googoomama · 06/01/2011 22:07

Oh so glad the situation was good with your parents today Tea - what a relief. Sometimes Christmas can just be a really stressful time for all!
I think that we have all wanted to contact exes' parents, friends etc but when I really wanted to do that with exbf a couple of weeks ago I just thought "What's the point?" It's over and that's that. I really forced myself to detach. Now I know that's easier with a bf of a year than an exh but I did the same with exh's friends and their wives, all of whom I'd been really friendly with. And it hurt a lot but I realised that just because they weren't contacting me didn't mean that they didn't feel for me - it was just such an awkward situation for them. And it made me go out and reach out to new people and new friends - two of whom are now very close and loveyl friends of mine.

fairygirl3 · 06/01/2011 22:10

ahh tea,great advice as always,off to bed now,but thanks for always making the time for this thread,you have been a great support

Teaandcakeplease · 06/01/2011 22:15

Sweet dreams fairy.

romneymarsh · 06/01/2011 22:17

Kate - well done, love your philosophy, great way to think about things. Do you think one day they will realise how stupid they have been? Although it will obviously be too late.

LC - Karma, I live in hope!

makedoandmend · 06/01/2011 22:18

tea - so glad it went well today for you - you deserve it as does your dcs

goo - you always give such good advice and have such kind words. I'm making a little list of the most moral-boosting and pithy comments from these threads and you appear on so many

kate - what can I say? You really are an inspiration - well done you

Chickened out of photos- couldn't do it - have asked xh to do it tomorrow when I'm having a drink with my fellow Worthing dumpling

makedoandmend · 06/01/2011 22:19

as do your dc's - sorry brain gone

Teaandcakeplease · 06/01/2011 22:21

That's how I read it but then again I've had a large glass of wine lightweight I make typos often on here, so do not worry lovely lady.

Right must drag this butt of mine into bed. Night night

googoomama · 06/01/2011 22:23

Romney - I don't care if one day my exbf realises how stupid he's been. All I care about now is realising that I was stupid to spend so much time and energy on him, when I coudl have been learning to love myself more and holding out for someone who realises how clever he is to be with me :)

googoomama · 06/01/2011 22:24

And thanks Makedo - I'm working on following my own good advice, instead of ignoring the inner voice and heading straight for disaster! Hopefully I'll manage it this year.