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Chin Up and Tits Out for the Recently Ditched No. 11

931 replies

Teaandchristmascakeplease · 29/12/2010 19:03

Dearly Be-Chucked, we are gathered here today because, for whatever reason, our man has dumped us!

Whether you are a new dumpling or a vet, feel free to join us in our quest for serenity

Smile Sad Angry [shocked]

OP posts:
soverign21 · 04/01/2011 00:20

Am reading ladies, but dongle not letting me post (fingers crossed this one does)

I cant offer any advice but just want you to know i am trying to send support and love through the mind, sounds strange but i'll try anything, just know that you are never alone and ther is always someone who cares

I'm not good with words most of the time although i try, i cant always articulate what i mean but i hope you understand what i'm trying to say ((((hugs))))

i seem to be in a lull atm and am trying to enjoy it before it passes as i feel a dip is on the way (always seems to be one) no sign of X since 29th, he hasnt even updated FB (dad told me) and i lay awake wondering if somethings happened to him as i dont think his family would tell me (i dont matter anymore)wouldnt normally bother me but after what happened the other week.......
Am resisting the urge to call or text, cause if he's ok i dont want him to think i'm chasing him iyswim, but am being to think i have gone into shock re his little episode and thats why i'm feeling so strong and feeling nothing for him, as my feelings shut down so suddenly but am just playing it day by day

Patience, you have been doing so well till this dip and it has everything to do with you seeing him again, it's so much easier when they dont visit DC but it is also hard for us as we dont want their relationship to suffer, were in a no win situation unfortunately, This shall pass, just feel it and let it out, maybe a diary of sorts would be good for you too? although tbh this thread is my diary as i let it all out here

LC,you have done nothing wrong and it is not about you at all, these men just dont think AT ALL, i dont think they have the capabilities (sp) to think about anyone else they are all surface and no depth, we feel and think deeply which is why we are affected so badly and it cuts us to our core, they dont feel the same about our DC as we do as they didnt carry them for 9 months and grow them inside their bodies, it's the way men seem to be built, hopefully not all of them but a lot of them
It sounds cliched(sp) but its primal, they "spread their seed" whereas women are more feircly protective and loving it is certainly not us it is THEM

god i hope i'm making sense here, am off to bed to toss and turn for a while back to school run tomorrow, night all and much much love x

littlecritter · 04/01/2011 00:24

Goodnight, sov. Feeling your hugs. Thanks, mate x

UrbanPatiencekeepinitreal · 04/01/2011 00:36

Thanks Sov much appreciated.when he did regular visits I coped better,but its the lack of involvement ,the lack of remorse,lack of childcare and then turns up like he just won DAD OF THE YEAR 2010

UrbanPatiencekeepinitreal · 04/01/2011 00:44

It's like a big game of snakes and ladders this healing business .

littlecritter · 04/01/2011 08:59

Patience, how are you feeling this morning? It's a bloody hard slog, isn't it? Do you feel at all sorry for your ex? That is my downfall. XP had it all and he's thrown it away then added excessive alcohol into the mix. I want to shake him and say, pull yourself together. But he stopped listening to me a long time ago. I'd be wasting my breath. Time now to detach.

UrbanPatiencekeepinitreal · 04/01/2011 09:51

I feel sorry that nobody in his life got a hold of him and gave him a rocket up his arse re sense of duty.his mother hates me and has always told him to leave me ,never got my name right in 16 yrs.I was reading about sacral chakras and it said u have to learn there are more stages to relationships that just acceptance and rejection ..I have to work on this if I am ever to co parent peacefully.
Going out today ,I think I struggle with RL no. support.it would be great if people kept in touch.
I don't feel sorry for him Lc but I do know deep inside is the sweetest kindest gentlest bloke u could ever meet that s who I chose to spend my life with.That is who everyone else still sees,the charming polite guy.I just have to keep reminding myself how bad it actually got.Just all grief , denial and shock.I am so glad I didn't start going out with anyone else now,so much more to work through .How Ru Lc?

fairygirl3 · 04/01/2011 10:13

lc,my dc are 13,11,4 and 1.
I did think about going off sick but to be honest i struggled to leave the house this morning for the school run ,not sure i could cope with a trip to town and then i willl probably break down on my Dr who is very stern and buisness like and will he think that i am not coping and then have the health visitor knocking on my door?also i dont know what to say,are they open to just signing people off sick,i thought you self signed for a week?also i think is it worth it,if he is definatly not coming back then i would have to give up work anyway because of 6am starts and is delaying it just giving myself false hope.I just wished i had not listened to him back in may when i went back to work after maternity leave,he asked me to only go back part time so he was able to have more flexibility for hours at his work,so i went back for just 8 hours which i am just cursing myself for now as 16 hours would of ment i could claim tax credits etc.
Well i managed the school run ,thought i was going to be sick with nerves leaving the house,thought had better tell ds2 teaching assistant that his dad had left as he has behaviour problems and wanted her to know why if he was playing up more.The first 5 words came out ok then i started sounding like a teenage boys breaking voice then the tears,she started talking about support the school offers if i need it ,i was just trying to get away,feeling cross with myself for not being able to hold it together,looking at my little boy walking into class thinking about all he is going through,am blubbing again.All this made worse by being up since 4am with dd2 and sending a desperate text to him ,have had enough of today already.

UrbanPatiencekeepinitreal · 04/01/2011 10:34

Fg u don't need to be invincible .only one of my friends picked up on the fact that mentally I was trying to cope with getting dumped but reality was I had to keep calm and carry on for my kids .Take all the help u can get ,I certainly found getting out the house early every morning helped .

Teaandcakeplease · 04/01/2011 10:38

I choose a different doctor at my surgery for my first appointment to discuss how low I felt. Never was it mentioned about social services or sending a health visitor round, despite crying for the whole appointment at the doctors. She simply asked me to complete a questionnaire on how I felt, suggested counseling if I wasn't having any already and wrote me a prescription for anti depressants and asked me to return in a fortnight to see how I felt at that stage and if the dosage needed changing etc. She asked me to return immediately if I felt suicidal and book an emergency appointment. They can and do sign people of work too if needed.

I really would just book an appointment, if you only have one doctor at your surgery I would go to him anyway. Don't worry they see people all the time struggling with depression due to life events.

I'd just popped on the thread to try and catch up but saw your post and wanted to reply. Try not to be too hard on yourself, it's early days, you haven't had enough sleep and are trying to hold your family together at this difficult time. I burst into tears regularly when telling people in the early days. Sending you massive ((hugs))

Teaandcakeplease · 04/01/2011 10:39

And typos for today include replacing: Choose with Chose and of with off. I really need to preview my messages before posting Blush

gettingeasier · 04/01/2011 10:51

Sorry Patience I really feel for you. I guess just persevere with him seeing them and hope it will improve in time. I am struggling a bit too with the way xh just goes off into the sunset, he tells me he is house hunting "everywhere" which of course I cant do as I have the dc needing to stay in the same school so am much more limited .

Well we spoke just now and surprise surprise he told me if I dont find somewhere quickly we will just have to rent somewhere so I told him we wont be doing that thankyou. A year ago it was all "I will live in a caravan as long as you and the kids are ok" and "I will get a loan so you can buy somewhere and sort it out how you want it before selling the family home". Now we can just do whatever makes his shiny new life convienient , the thing is I am not even surprised.

This morning I just feel lost really and why now but I too think "Why".

Oh yes and can I please let him know when he can have the dc in the summer holiday as he wants to book a holiday for "all of them somewhere exotic" . Tosser.

Hang in there fairy just concentrate on getting through today

Nice to hear from you Sov and I think we all need your positive vibes being sent to us

How are you today LC ? My xh was an alcoholic but has sorted himself out since leaving which I resent sooo much.

UrbanPatiencekeepinitreal · 04/01/2011 11:17

Somewhere exotic what an arsehole.
that's the thing getting, they are all stupid middle aged blokes that have put their kids emotional stability at risk and still fighting us ,still making our lifestyle miserable .my X left so why doesn't he pay for and see his kids ....because he doesn't have to .

UrbanPatiencekeepinitreal · 04/01/2011 11:18

Somewhere exotic what an arsehole.
that's the thing getting, they are all stupid middle aged blokes that have put their kids emotional stability at risk and still fighting us ,still making our lifestyle miserable .my X left so why doesn't he pay for and see his kids ....because he doesn't have to .

Teaandcakeplease · 04/01/2011 11:43

Right I?ve put the boy down for his nap so I can a) catch up with you lovely ladies and b) actually get dressed, as I?m still in my PJ?s Blush Clearly still in the holiday spirit here, as DD doesn?t start nursery until 13th Jan. Presumably they?re staggering the new intake for this term.

Crazee ? it must be so so hard with your elder DD living with your H Sad No wise words here but lots of sympathy and ((hugs)) I often took my rings off and put them back on again as I oscillated between not wanting to wear them but then not wanting questions asked in the early days. Much harder for you as you do not have closure, so it?s hard to decide what?s best. Hope the first day back goes ok and if you bump into your H things go ok. I?d try not to read too much into anything he does, as he has ishoos.

Makedo - I remember being in your stage, I wish there was a magic button to fast forward that stage. We could sell it and make millions. Sending you strength. Loving the description of giving birth too and comparing to this life and moving on.

LC ? ((hugs)) from me too, great advice from Googoo and Getting. I agree wholeheartedly with WWIFN. She who knows your full story and has walked with you from the beginning. She speaks so much sense, but sometimes I have felt like you in the past for a short while, luckily soon enough my H would do something hideous again and remind me why I was relieved it was over in a way, despite wanting things to be how they once were. You sound like you?re maybe suffering agoraphobia, which my brother has, please speak to your GP again lovely.

Wherecanihide ? Yes I went through a stage of hating holiday adverts. Now I cannot wait for my cheapy holiday with Butlins in April as my H was such a misery actually and a kill joy at times and couldn?t be arsed to do all the things I?d like to do when away. And he?d moan about being tired etc once we had kids and wouldn?t help me or get out of bed half the time. Now I can dictate the whole holiday and just enjoy it with my DCs. I?m also going away abroad in June thanks to a good friend whose booked it for me and paid, it is for one plus adult too, so I?ll find a good friend to come along and help. My two are too young to drive a long way without help still. But logistically I get nervous before big trips now but things always seem to work out ok.

Longdarktunnel ? yep my ex H?s OW was a family friend, came and stayed with us, held my kids, bathed them, came to their christening, all whilst shagging my H. I had some very interesting dreams about giving her a piece of my mind and assaulting her in the early days Shock and I am not like that at all. I was never that fond of her either but tried to get along as my H felt sorry for her in her younger years etc. I?ve never spoken to her since the affair came out as I felt it would achieve nothing as she?d not take on board my feelings or be remorseful and it would be a waste of time. My ex H did eventually give me a blow by blow account of the truth all whilst squirming like a worm on a hook, it did bring me closure but hurt at the time but it wasn?t until 5 months after separation.

Fairy I believe the mortgage help doesn?t begin straight away and you have to wait a few months, so ring your mortgage company and ask to go on a payment break until it kicks in. C&G were very kind to me and were fine with that. But there?s no shame in benefits. I am on income support, healthy start vouchers, tax credits and housing benefit and it is what feeds my family and keeps a roof over my head right now. As my feckless ex H barely supports me.

Patience ? ?why can?t you just be happy, I?ve moved on? get over it? That is so hurtful as well as his nasty abusive texts and phonecalls. Your MIL?s comments when she hardly ever saw you or DCs when she lived 30 mins away are probably based on what her son has told her as well. Very hard. I?d find it very hard not to get angry with the injustice on the lack of financial support, opting out of it all, hardly seeing the kids and then turning up and playing happy families. You?re a diamond my love and I?m sending you massive ((hugs)) hope the return to routine and school runs etc helps today a little. My MIL told my H years ago when we were first married that if he wasn?t satisfied with me, he could go out and get it elsewhere Hmm I do sometimes wonder if she helped to place the thoughts in his mind, his dysfunctional mum and her marriage to his dad didn?t help either.

Getting ? your ex H is charming isn?t he? Angry You stand your ground and stay put until you find the right place for you and the DCs close to the school. He?s a cheeky blighter. The Summer hols comments must hurt too. I?m going to find it very hard if H settles into life more with OW lives with her and they start doing that.

Good to hear from you Sov.

UrbanPatiencekeepinitreal · 04/01/2011 12:08

Thanks tea I just think when X wants someone to agree with his selfish life style he goes and sees his mummy to fill his need for a narc supply.I know whoever he meets next will fill that supply.i had to tell him to stop going drinking if he hasnt paid for his kids that week ,he agreed with me .so when he is drinking he thinks the child maintenance is his fun money.I just wish I could move away but that is only for me not my kids .just a bad patch.schools go back Thursday.

littlecritter · 04/01/2011 12:12

Fairy, you absolutely must go to the doctor. You are having perfectly reasonable and normal reactions to a horrendous shock. I can't imagine why your GP would ask a HV to knock on your door unless it was to offer help and you need any help you can get atm. You don't have to take ADs but at the very least you should be referred for counselling. If you managed to get the dc's to school today then give yourself a big pat on the back. As long as you can get back to pick them up you're winning the day. The only other thing you need to do is feed them. Anything. Do you have anyone for RL support? And don't worry about desperate texts. We've all done it. And you did it because you are, in actual fact, desperate. Perhaps it will help him to realise what a tosser he is. Sometimes they need to see the pain and misery they leave behind.

Patience, do you really believe your x is a sweet, kind, gentle person deep down? Because he certainly doesn't sound like one right now. One thing that WWIFN said that really struck a chord with me was that I had probably been bargaining away bad behaviours for years. Well, yes I have actually. My xp is basically an unpleasant person and I went out of my way to make his life very comfortable but it was never enough.

Getting, I feel more positive today. Three steps forward and two steps back atm. I would not say that xp is an alcoholic. I think that is for him to say, not me. Certainly, he has gone from drinking 2 or 3 cans per night to more like 5 or 6. But he has stopped drinking at lunchtime - no longer welcome in that social setting. However he does admit to craving drink during the day but manages to abstain until about 6pm. He would (and does) choose alcohol over food though Hmm. I hope you can stick to your guns regarding the house.

Tea, come back soon. We need you Smile.

littlecritter · 04/01/2011 12:13

Sorry, Tea. Didn't see your post as I am so slow at typing due to various interruptions Smile.

Teaandcakeplease · 04/01/2011 14:24

Ahh my lovely LC how are you today?

As tomorrow is my DS 2nd birthday I'm having a cleaning fenzy now, as I haven't seen the PIL for a while, MIL even longer and want the place to look nice. They're coming down especially from Scotland. Nothing major planned just bought some nice sliced deli ham, salad etc for lunch and the all important cake, a shop bought one this time Blush Maybe take the kids to a soft play. I'll save the big parties for when he's started pre school I think. Can't believe he'll be 2, been a hard time since he arrived on the scene with my marriage disintegrating, his colic, his jealous sister hurting him etc but he's become quite scrumptious lately and his talking is getting better and better and he's becoming extra cuddly and coming to give me kisses now. I really like the little man he is becoming. Shame my parents can't see that side of him. Still haven't spoken to them since the disastrous big Christmas meet up. I just need some space right now from their negativity.

Mumfun · 04/01/2011 17:46

Happy birthday to lovely little Tea boy. NOt surprised you are giving space to parents. Good move. Will they come over for his day?It is a lovely age as their little personalities come through more and more x

Teaandcakeplease · 04/01/2011 18:03

Mum only contacted me late today and asked if she could drop his present by tomorrow, all by text. I said that as my PIL were here and my Ex H maybe she'd like to come another day as my parents are still very angry with my ex H and were never that keen on my PIL. So maybe she'll come by Thurs to drop it off, tbh I'd be happy if she posted it, as I'm still feeling a little cross about everything.

googoomama · 04/01/2011 18:58

Hi everyone. First day back at work today - not used to haivng so much to catch up on!
Well, I'm so sorry some of you dumplings are feeling so low - I've thought about you Patience today, because I thought that you were really doen. I do think that you can get a sort of post traumatic shock thing. I was like that once I finally got the divorce, moved out of one house nad into another. Everything was much more peaceful, all the jobs that had had to be done regarding the divorce had been done and I was living in another house. However, I think adreneine had been keeping me going and once I was finally more settled and had no more divorce stuff to do I suddenly felt incredibly alone. I think you are shocked by your ex's behaviour and I'm not surprised. I think that what's got to you the most has been his lack of ability to get off his arse and see the kids. And this is hurtful to them but also to you too. Hope you can work through this part of the road sooner rather than later. I'm sending you lots of hugs and warrior strength.
Fairy - you need to go to the docs love, as the others have said and I'm so sorry you feel like this. You can be signed off for up to a month on a sick note (at least as a teacher and I'm sure it's the same with other jobs). I did that. I had terrible panics too and was really suffering but being off for a month helped enormously. And the HV might come round but only to check you are ok. I was extremely upset at the docs when I first went but noone is going to think it's unusual that you are upset and finding it hard to cope - your husband has left you very recently. And ADs are actually a good thing at first - they help you to be calmer. I really hope you go to the docs. I wish I could come round and help you to make tea for a couple of weeks! Keep posting.
Tea - hope your lovely little boy has a great day tomorrow. You've done the right thing with your parents. As usual, great advice.
Getting - your exh and exotic holidays. Bla bla bla eh? I asked my boys what daddy got his girlfriend for Christmas. The answer was "A brand new car". What a wanker! Grin
Hi everyone else. Hope you are well. Love to you LC - hope you feel better today. We will all get there in the end. One step backwards often results in two steps forwards.

Teaandcakeplease · 04/01/2011 20:08

Well the thread has gone quiet now as everyone is busy putting their little ones to bed I reckon Wink

Well the balloons and banners is up ready for tomorrow. Just need to clean the bathroom I think now.

crazeeladeeuk · 04/01/2011 21:10

Hi all, well first day back at work over. Colleagues did notice me not wearing my ring and i just said that I couldnt pretend any longer... But managed not to get tearful. The biggest test will be seeing my students tomorrow...

The FIL called tonight and I asked him whether MIL had told DH to pack my things for me to collect and he said she had a long talk with DH on saturday. FIL said DH is going to pack my things though also thinks DH is doing some thinking about what he wants and that is why he hasnt contacted me sooner to come and collect things. I just want this whole nightmare over !!

romneymarsh · 04/01/2011 21:19

Hi all, I have been musing Karma today and spoke to a friend at work, she was telling me about her exH and how he had been very cruel to her cheating and just generally horrible, well he got his Karma, and is now in prison for 5 years, so she said he gave her 5 years of misery and now he has got his 5 years!! Well I certainly hope Karma is going to bite these men on the arse one day good and proper.

LC - hope today hasnt been too bad, I was thinking how I feel today as I am back at the GP tomorrow and can only describe myself as totally numb and lethargic.

Googoo - how was your first day back at work?

LC, Tea, Patience, Pink and other dumplings, I am trying to compile a list of questions for DH to answer regarding why etc he had the affair, he has until now told me I dont know, but I think he realises that for me to move forward I need some answers and he is now telling me that he will now try and answer them. My counsellor friend says he still cant tell me as he doesnt know himself why etc, do you think I should ask and therefore need some questions or do you think he will just make something up and rewrite history. Thank you.

Teaandcakeplease · 04/01/2011 21:22

My Ex H is only now starting to work out why and that's over a year since we separated and almost 2 years since he began the affair and things aren't going well right now with OW actually.

I just wanted the step by step on the affair beginning and where he was and when. As he spent a lot of time lying to me. He definitely rewrote history.

Crazee - well done on day 1 back and being brave and true to yourself on not wearing your ring

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