How do you feel about prostitution?

[BillieH]

Hello everyone, I have name changed for this(no sinister reason) but i do post on here from time to time.

Anyway, I would love to know what your thoughts are on prostitution. I don't mean political views and I dont really want to get into a discussion on whether girls are trafficked, pimped, druggies. Just what you think as a whole.

I am talking about girls who willing become escorts or work in massage parlours under the guise of 'masseuses' when really they provide extras.

What do you think of men who see them? Are that losers, sad and lonely, 'sex addicts'or what? Would you think your dp/dh was cheating if he saw a prostitute.

I ask just out of curiosity, I do not think my dp has ever visited a prostitute! Also, apparently 1 in 10 men see prostitutes. Do you agree with this. If this is true what hope do we all have eh?

My take is that i belive some girls use their looks to earn money an 'easy' way. By easy, I mean that they do not have to train for yrs to get a decent paid job, or they do not have to work 9 to 5 in an office when they can earn a wks wages in a day.

I have asked my own dp and he beleives that there is something missing from a relationship if a man sees a prostitute.Obviously its different with a single man. He also thinks that some men have issues sexually with their wives/partners and are inhibited. Therefore, that is why they pay for sex acts that they can't ask for at home. These are exactly my thoughts.Anyone agree or disagree?

I'd like your thoughts or experiences!

"I have to tell you my massage lasts for 45 minutes and the handjob is not just a tugg, I put so much effort into it, more like someone on a pottery wheel that is an art form which lasts for 15 minutes"

Methinks you have watched Ghost to many times.

Just sayin'

I am a prostitute, I make a very very nice living out of making men (sexually and emotionally) happy.
I am not going to justify how I chose to earn my living, or what a kind of person I am.
I would rather address the misconception of men that seek our services are scum or whatever it is that you like to describe them as.
The men that you are calling thus are most likely only a few feet from you at this time, they are no different to your other half, your brother, father or best male friend. They are normal decent men which punt for an array of different reasons.
They don't love you any less than they did before they come to see us and I doubt if they will after.
I would love to leave you with this personal experience........
A gentleman caller regular of mine one day burst into tears in my arms and said to me.
.....If his wife who he adored showed him a fraction of the affection and tenderness that I do, then he would consider himself the luckiest man in the world.........
Take care of your man :)

S x

UA, I wouldn't know. Do you?

As I clearly stated I am a prostitute, not a masseuse. I also stated your entitled to your opinion or thoughts. If you find comfort and security in your beliefs thats all well and good and it works for your persona.

Yes I do believe all the above is a cover up, beginning with who you are to your pretend whiskey sippin happy hubby.

But bock on topic

Aw that's sweet, SabrinaYork.

Still, I'd rather believe that my dad, partner and male children had more respect for themselves than to pay someone to suck them off.

The thing I find so very amusing is the whole "oh, you women on Mumsnet are so prudish and disempowered and uptight and ALL men like to stick their cocks into a strangers minge/mouth/arse.

Then you moan a bit about how hard done by (no pun intended) you are by all society stereotyping your profession as drug takers and dregs.

Uh, hypocrisy much? You stereotype all men as being desirous of anonymous mindless rutting; all wives and mothers as being anti sex, all of society as being a great seething mass of sexual inequality. Um.

I have enough respect for the MEN in my life to believe that they are perfectly capable of having loving sexual relationships with women - who in turn enjoy loving sexual relationships with them - without having to leave a bit of cash for the pleasure.

Oh an putting smily faces and kisses on your post just sends out the message that you are an arse BTW

I don't think anyone said that all men would pay for sex, just that it is not some weird, pervy sub-set of men who do.

Why, when we try to be polite are we met with insults?

As I clearly stated I am a prostitute, not a masseuse. I also stated your entitled to your opinion or thoughts. If you find comfort and security in your beliefs thats all well and good and it works for your persona.

Yes I do believe all the above is a cover up, beginning with who you are to your pretend whiskey sippin happy hubby.

But back on topic

I advertise as a prostitute I work as a prostitute.

Maybe your seeing a cover up but I can assure you it is what it is, prostitution.

Lou4fun

We've said that 8% of men (by official statistics) have visited a prostitute at least once. That's hardly the "all men" of your hyperbole, Shirley.

What we're saying is that you cannot tell who has or has not, nor can you tell who ultimately will. One of my clients didn't start seeing working girls until 12 years had passed since he was widowed. He's a father, grandfather, and about to become a great grandfather. I don't suppose his family look at him and think, "Hmm, bet you're paying for it."

I think it is sweet that you are so naive Ms SK

You do realise that there are prostitutes that are on mumsnet?

I also KNOW from experience that some of these men also have a very fulfilling sex life with their partners but simply want their cake and eat it too :)

Prostitution is a very small part of infidelity, I would tend to check to see if they have registered on sites such as AFF for NSA sex :) I believe the percentage is MUCH higher.........

S x

Oh SY - don't worry about me sweetheart

You have no idea about the life I lead, the deals I might have made or the men in my life.

I don't need to check my internet history x

I don't have a "problem" with prostitutes - people do what they need to do in order to keep food on the table.

My argument stems from the tone of "oh haha, you are a fool if you think your husband/dad/son/brother/uncle doesn't visit prostitutes" which is often a marker for such an invasion.

Oh and being told we need to "look after our men"

You think that's acceptable do you?

I'm sorry, but I find it actually laughable. Do you still believe in blue balls as well?

Now, now Shirely that is Knot nice at all.

If your real life persona if anything like your online persona I guess it is you who wears the trousers and not the men in your life.

Billie Stop with smily faces... you are coming across as a right arse, some could even mistake you as a prossie.

I wank men off, as you put it because it pays £40 more than if I didn't.

No I do not wear gloves, a cock is a cock, no matter who it belongs to. One day dh of yours will be an ugly old man... what will you do then? Wear gloves or send him to a lady who will give him a wank, no matter what he looks like.

There is no need to bring Ageism into this discussion.

Shirley how about smily faces and baked beans, maybe a skinless sausages to go with them, would suit you better.

Just read your Ghost-Post Shirley. I could always show you how it is done... Demi has nothing on me. Are you always this spiteful?

Just askin x

Blue balls, not sure but I know some take pride in how much they deliver us, must have been saving it up for a while...magnificent!

Deals?? I am intrigued tell me more! That would suggest to me that you expect 'returns' for your wifely duties, what is it a roof over your head? Food on the table? What do you barter with?

As for working to keep food on the table......how much food exactly do you think my hourly rate affords? No it pays for a lifestyle.

S x

Haha - brilliant. I'm not going to have a battle of wits with you TOG as I fear one of us may be unarmed.

Is the rest of your nasty little post directed at me?

I don't care if you wear gloves? Why would you? I presume you see your job much as a beautician who waxes minges for a living does?

"Wear gloves or send him to a lady who will give him a wank, no matter what he looks like."

This is the shit I'm driving at. Why is there an assumption that WOMEN hate having sex with men? I like having sex and will enjoy it when I'm old - to say otherwise really is unbelievably presumptuous, not only of women but also of men.

Ageism?

I assume that your HILARIOUS crack about skinless sausage was a way for you to make out that I am a ball breaking feminist who therefore hates sex and zzzzzz

Please.

Get a grip, re-read my post. I don't think I was being particularly derogatory about prostitutes - maybe what I was saying was that to imply that we should "look after our men" in order to prevent them from turning to a "working Girl" and the broad brushstrokes used by SY of "your husband/brother blah blah blah" is offensive.

Well these men are surely someone's brother?

Or someone's son, cousin, father...

grandfather...son...

Shirley, you don't have to take this so personally. If you believe your man would never etc, fine - there's a 92% chance you're right.

There is really no point in the arguing. Really. Some women choose to use their assets to their advantage, nowt wrong with that. Some people think that's wrong again nowt wrong with that. Everyone is different and really don't deserve to be judged so just live and let live. Thank you and goodnight

Get a new schtick this one has run out of mileage.

What do you expect people to say? "Oh, I hope my brother enjoyed his trip to the prostitute today! I expect that means that he is a fully rounded individual without any sexual hang-ups!"

or

"When my son grows up, I hope he finds a brilliant prostitute who can service his "sexual needs" if his wife is pregnant or ill or depressed!"

Never going to happen.

I'm asked "That would suggest to me that you expect 'returns' for your wifely duties, what is it a roof over your head? Food on the table? What do you barter with? "

There are so many things wrong with this tiny snippet that it is staggering.

I wouldn't mind if I'd said something like "all whores are dirty bitches and their john are mindless pigs"

I didn't. I challenged the presumption that we should all be watching our backs as women because our menfolk might be...IF WE DON'T LOOK AFTER THEM...out hunting for prostitutes.

I DO like the subtle jibes though - very...interesting

Anyone know who TOG is?

Actually the gloves part was directed at Billie, if you care to read over. She asked if I wear gloves in one of her posts.

Can't answer your question regarding beauticians, I've never waxed a minge in my life, though to be fair I would try anything at least once.

I think you need to read some of the other posts on here, instead of just Yours, Sabrina's and mine. I was simply answering someone elses post who mentioned old men.

Not once have I assumed that WOMEN hate having sex with men. I'm glad you enjoy having sex and hope you make it to old in the know that you are still enjoying sex at a ripe old age. Who knows I could be senile and think each time is like the first when I'm old.

It seems you got the wrong end of the crack regarding the skinless sausage.. I think you are taking this hates sex lark a wee bit to far if I am honest. You said to Sabrina that smily faces and kisses made her look like an arse. My son used to like Smiley faces, baked beans and skinless sausages when he was younger, I was just asking if you would prefer them to kisses.

I really have not lost my grip. You commented on my post, I merely responded and answered all of your questions. I have not once been offensive to any person on this thread. I think you should have a little re-read of your post and other peoples too.

I am pleased that you look after your man well. I too look after the man I see well. I once looked after a husband very well, only he looked after himself very well too and forgot that it is a two way street.

Sabrina that is very touching about the man breaking down. I can't help feeling that he would be better channeling his energy in making his marriage work.

If these men aren't scum, then what are they? Loving, loyal husbands?

Well, it's nice that so far we haven't been told that we're lying/deluded/responsible for pimped 14 year olds on the street/men/pimps etc.

Quite refreshing really. :)

< pops head back in >

shirls, sorry to leave you on your own in here, but this thread has been designed to wind people up

the smug undertone of "when your DH gets sick of you refusing to attend to his needs, we will be here to pick up the pieces" drove me away several hours ago

best to step away I think, I just don't get the point of the thread at all, except as an exercise in trading insults

save your estimable wit for those who will benefit from it

these exchanges are just a waste of airspace (and of my fingernails...gotta look after my maaan, after all...)

Billie, they're not scum. They're just ordinary people.

I've said before, walk down any High Street on a busy afternoon, and randomly pick out one man in ten (or 12, if you prefer the official stats.)

That man sees working girls.