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How do you feel about prostitution?

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BillieH · 10/11/2010 13:01

Hello everyone, I have name changed for this(no sinister reason) but i do post on here from time to time.

Anyway, I would love to know what your thoughts are on prostitution. I don't mean political views and I dont really want to get into a discussion on whether girls are trafficked, pimped, druggies. Just what you think as a whole.

I am talking about girls who willing become escorts or work in massage parlours under the guise of 'masseuses' when really they provide extras.

What do you think of men who see them? Are that losers, sad and lonely, 'sex addicts'or what? Would you think your dp/dh was cheating if he saw a prostitute.

I ask just out of curiosity, I do not think my dp has ever visited a prostitute! Also, apparently 1 in 10 men see prostitutes. Do you agree with this. If this is true what hope do we all have eh?

My take is that i belive some girls use their looks to earn money an 'easy' way. By easy, I mean that they do not have to train for yrs to get a decent paid job, or they do not have to work 9 to 5 in an office when they can earn a wks wages in a day.

I have asked my own dp and he beleives that there is something missing from a relationship if a man sees a prostitute.Obviously its different with a single man. He also thinks that some men have issues sexually with their wives/partners and are inhibited. Therefore, that is why they pay for sex acts that they can't ask for at home. These are exactly my thoughts.Anyone agree or disagree?

I'd like your thoughts or experiences!

OP posts:
quizling · 12/11/2010 20:50

I think this is the ultimate question, then: why is sex so sacred?

PosieComeHereMyPreciousParker · 12/11/2010 20:50

OFFS Fri 12-Nov-10 20:49:17
How can it "dehumanise" us when the very reason our clients see us is for our humanity?

lmao, humanity...that's funny.

OFFS · 12/11/2010 20:51

Actually, many punters like to become regular clients to one, or a small number, of prostitutes. It's because they like us as people. You have a warped idea of what prostitution actually involves, Posie. Why not listen to us for a bit,instead of denying our truths?

Mumcentreplus · 12/11/2010 20:51

Why do people use history - oldest profession etc etc bollocks as some kind of reason for prostitution as a viable profession for some women???...

PosieComeHereMyPreciousParker · 12/11/2010 20:51

quiz. I'm not going to answer such a personal question.

OFFS · 12/11/2010 20:52

Are you saying (again) that I'm not human? Do you think I'm typing this out with one horn on the front of my head, like a unicorn?

Who are you to say why my clients see me, when you haven't even met them?

EscortKarin · 12/11/2010 20:52

"Actually prostitution reinforces the idea that women are property that can be bought and sold, it dehumanises women and reduces them to object."

So Posie - please feel free to give your views on the 'season'...WTF do you think that was all about?

IF I'm an object, I'll exercise the free will to do it on my own behalf - not that of my family!

PosieComeHereMyPreciousParker · 12/11/2010 20:52

OFFS....But they are paying for your time, so not really a 'friendship' is it? No equal status.

PosieComeHereMyPreciousParker · 12/11/2010 20:54

Errr what?

OFFS · 12/11/2010 20:55

Posie, I'm really not sure I can explain so that you understand. I don't even think you want to understand, do you? You're happy with your prejudices and your myths.

It's OK. I was just reading an article in the current New Scientist about why people choose to be irrational; I'll read it again and see if I can at least try to understand you. :)

quizling · 12/11/2010 20:57

It wasn't really a personal question, more of a sociological one. Please don't tell me about your sex life! I was just wondering why we are so determined that sex is a sacred thing that you should only share with one person (or one person at a time, serial-monogamy stylee). I suppose it can only come from the influence of Christianity, possibly as a way of controlling the social and sexual behaviour of the people?

I can see there is a blur between the person/service line. For example, I go to the hairdresser I do because he is a damn good hairdresser, but also because I like him. If he was a twat I would get a different hairdresser. So you can pay for the person as well as the service, I think.

PosieComeHereMyPreciousParker · 12/11/2010 20:57

Who wants to be a prostitute? The very clever and well paid? The beautiful? The witty? The medic? The moral?

No no no no no no no.

OFFS · 12/11/2010 20:59

Obviously, not you. :)

And that's fine. We keep saying, it doesn't suit all women, it probably doesn't suit most women.

But those of us it does suit are not "mythical". We're real.

Malificence · 12/11/2010 20:59

This self delusion is laughable - Are you seriously suggesting that hookers are part social worker, part humanitarian, helping poor helpless men who can't get their needs met any other way? Hmm

Quizling = Sex isn't necessarily sacred - it is for me and my DH but I realise that it's purely recreational fun for a lot of people, the difference between mutually satisfying sex based on the sexual attraction between two equal participants and "paid for" sex is huge

PosieComeHereMyPreciousParker · 12/11/2010 21:00

quiz, are you fucking your hairdresser?

OFFS Just because a client comes back and is a regular it just means that you're nicer than the next prostitute. In a situation whereby someone is paying someone else to spend time with them on a personal level, only, it negates the person, the friendship.

quizling · 12/11/2010 21:01

I do think sex is special for me, but as you say I can see how it is just fun for others. I have never paid for sex so could not comment on whether it is better or worse.

Don't worry guys, people are always asking me who would ever want to do my job!

PosieComeHereMyPreciousParker · 12/11/2010 21:01

God no, not me I have self respect. I like to think someone is spending time with me because they like me....not because they can afford me.

quizling · 12/11/2010 21:02

No I think he is not straight.

quizling · 12/11/2010 21:02

I don't think anyone here has said that their clients are actually friends or real lovers...

OFFS · 12/11/2010 21:02

quizling, your point about the "sacredness" of sex is a good one. I've tried raising it before; why is it so special? We accept that it's "moral" to pay for all sorts of other personal services, from someone to clean our shitty toilets to someone to clean our shitty arses when we can't do it ourselves. The position of "lady's companion" (paid friend) was a damn good one a few generations back.

We can pay to have most of our bodies touched in massage, but somehow, that one small sexual area is No Go!

OFFS · 12/11/2010 21:04

Malificence yet again you tell us you know us better than we know ourselves. Can't syou see how insulting and patronising that is? And if you've never had paid sex, how can you know what it's like?

PosieComeHereMyPreciousParker · 12/11/2010 21:04

OFFS...perhaps you should ask a rape victim why it's so sacred.

PosieComeHereMyPreciousParker · 12/11/2010 21:05

Self delusion is right Mali. I guess if I sold my soul I would have to justify it too.

quizling · 12/11/2010 21:06

Oh that's obviously different! Rape is an assault. The kind of prostitution we are discussing is consented to by both parties.

EscortKarin · 12/11/2010 21:06

"Are you seriously suggesting that hookers are part social worker, part humanitarian, helping poor helpless men who can't get their needs met any other way?"

Yep - you got it in one!

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