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How do you feel about prostitution?

1002 replies

BillieH · 10/11/2010 13:01

Hello everyone, I have name changed for this(no sinister reason) but i do post on here from time to time.

Anyway, I would love to know what your thoughts are on prostitution. I don't mean political views and I dont really want to get into a discussion on whether girls are trafficked, pimped, druggies. Just what you think as a whole.

I am talking about girls who willing become escorts or work in massage parlours under the guise of 'masseuses' when really they provide extras.

What do you think of men who see them? Are that losers, sad and lonely, 'sex addicts'or what? Would you think your dp/dh was cheating if he saw a prostitute.

I ask just out of curiosity, I do not think my dp has ever visited a prostitute! Also, apparently 1 in 10 men see prostitutes. Do you agree with this. If this is true what hope do we all have eh?

My take is that i belive some girls use their looks to earn money an 'easy' way. By easy, I mean that they do not have to train for yrs to get a decent paid job, or they do not have to work 9 to 5 in an office when they can earn a wks wages in a day.

I have asked my own dp and he beleives that there is something missing from a relationship if a man sees a prostitute.Obviously its different with a single man. He also thinks that some men have issues sexually with their wives/partners and are inhibited. Therefore, that is why they pay for sex acts that they can't ask for at home. These are exactly my thoughts.Anyone agree or disagree?

I'd like your thoughts or experiences!

OP posts:
quizling · 12/11/2010 21:07

How can you tell others they are self-deluded?! It's just arrogance! You don't even know them

PosieComeHereMyPreciousParker · 12/11/2010 21:08

Arrogance? I like to think of it as superior knowledge.Smile

OFFS · 12/11/2010 21:08

No Posie, I'm asking you. You're here.

quizling · 12/11/2010 21:09

Superior knowledge? YOU'RE the one deluding yourself. Why don't you just admit you have no idea who these women are and no idea what it is they really do on a day to day basis?

OFFS · 12/11/2010 21:09

quizling, I think I love you. :)

MissHoneyMoon · 12/11/2010 21:11

But then Posie that is supposing you have soul to sell or remortgage...? Btw I am sure there are many more clichés you missed out.

EscortKarin · 12/11/2010 21:11

"Arrogance? I like to think of it as superior knowledge"

Superior knowledge of what exactly? So far you have only shown ignorance.

ElisabethAlice · 12/11/2010 21:12

I'm beginning to get worried about all these prossies, spending their evenings on Mumsnet instead of fucking, sucking and licking.

Aren't their pimps going to get mad and beat them?

PosieComeHereMyPreciousParker · 12/11/2010 21:13

When you were growing up did you want to fuck for money?
When people ask you what you do what do you say?
If your dd wanted to be one would you show her the ropes, take her along with you?
If you found a very well paid job, say in a bar, that paid the same would you still do it?

Prostitution is what people do when they have no choice, either materialism has eaten their soul and hey simply must have or they're depleted of talent and can do nothing else. Noone sits in their mortgage free house surrounded by love and happiness and thinks 'let's fuck strangers for cash'.

MissHoneyMoon · 12/11/2010 21:13
  • Extends offer of group tittie hug to quizling and fellow harlots plus anyone who has not spit out the word slut and whore on this thread xxx -
PosieComeHereMyPreciousParker · 12/11/2010 21:14

quiz...I know your namechanges, I can see why you're defending these people.

OFFS · 12/11/2010 21:14

We don't have pimps, ElisabethAlice, so we can choose to do with our time what we please. Isn't that nice? :)

MissHoneyMoon · 12/11/2010 21:15

Good evening EA, back from a hard day of witch hunting? Btw has the ducking stool you ordered from eBay arrived yet?

quizling · 12/11/2010 21:15

Do you Posie? I would guess not actually. The internet is big.

PosieComeHereMyPreciousParker · 12/11/2010 21:15

only you have used those words, Miss.

PosieComeHereMyPreciousParker · 12/11/2010 21:16

Ah, and now the prostitutes are getting all snippy.

EscortKarin · 12/11/2010 21:16

Whorephobia can be defined as the fear or the hate of sex workers. Sex workers like me would argue that it also embraces paternalistic attitudes that deem us a public nuisance, spreaders of disease, offenders against decency or unskilled victims who don't know what is good for them and who need to be rescued.

In its most violent form, whorephobia kills. Sex workers are far more likely to be murdered than the rest of the population: the recent killings in Bradford are the most recent and saddening example. However, it would be a mistake to think that sex workers are the only targets of these murderers. Attackers often target sex workers because they look like easier prey. Sometimes it is only once a non-sex worker is killed that the police take an investigation seriously. Until sex workers are safe, no woman is safe.

If men are the ones who attack physically, women are sometimes more prejudiced than men against sex workers. In most languages, the most common sexist insults are "whore" or "slut", which makes women want to distance themselves from the stigma associated with those words, and from those who incarnate it. The "whore stigma" is a way to control women and to limit their autonomy ? whether it is economic, sexual, professional, or simply freedom of movement.

Women are brought up to think of sex workers as "bad women". It prevents them from copying and taking advantage of the freedoms sex workers fight for, like the occupation of nocturnal and public spaces, or how to impose a sexual contract in which conditions have to be negotiated and respected. Whorephobia operates as a way of controlling and policing women's behaviour, just as homophobia does for men.

One solution could be to reclaim the insults. Yet the English Collective of Prostitutes was criticised by the rest of the feminist movement in the 1970s for its slogan: "All women are prostitutes." It was indeed misunderstood ? despite being a beautiful effort to unite sex workers and other women and to identify them as similarly oppressed and sexually and economically exploited.

The first step in the fight against whorephobia is to name the oppression. Feminist theories help to identify it as at the intersection of gender, class and sexuality. A further step would be to fight the hate crimes sex workers suffer instead of criminalising us. The work of Shelly Stoops in Liverpool is a good example: her Armistead Street outreach project and collaboration with the Merseyside police have helped to build trust between officers and sex workers, who feel now able to report crimes.

Mumcentreplus · 12/11/2010 21:18
Hmm
ElisabethAlice · 12/11/2010 21:18

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PosieComeHereMyPreciousParker · 12/11/2010 21:18

Tha last nine words are the only ones of interest.

OFFS · 12/11/2010 21:20

Miss H offers a group hug and you call her "snippy"? Posie, are we actually using the same language here? Confused

SabrinaYork · 12/11/2010 21:20

PosieComeHereMyPreciousParker Fri 12-Nov-10 21:04:34
OFFS...perhaps you should ask a rape victim why it's so sacred.

What on earth has this to do with prostitution!??

quizling · 12/11/2010 21:20

So who am I then, Posie?

The reason I am sure you don't have a clue is that I have never posted on here anything about being a prostitute (on account of not being one, though I can see that's what your getting at), wanting to be a prostitute, or anything about the sex industry except having a political dislike for porn. There are literally no links to what I have posted here. So you don't know my previous names. You are either bullshitting or guessing wrongly, which would seem to be par for the course with you.

OFFS · 12/11/2010 21:20

I'm a mum, too, ElisabethAlice, and a regular here. What's your issue?

PosieComeHereMyPreciousParker · 12/11/2010 21:21

sabrina...heard of context?

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