How do you feel about prostitution?

[BillieH]

Hello everyone, I have name changed for this(no sinister reason) but i do post on here from time to time.

Anyway, I would love to know what your thoughts are on prostitution. I don't mean political views and I dont really want to get into a discussion on whether girls are trafficked, pimped, druggies. Just what you think as a whole.

I am talking about girls who willing become escorts or work in massage parlours under the guise of 'masseuses' when really they provide extras.

What do you think of men who see them? Are that losers, sad and lonely, 'sex addicts'or what? Would you think your dp/dh was cheating if he saw a prostitute.

I ask just out of curiosity, I do not think my dp has ever visited a prostitute! Also, apparently 1 in 10 men see prostitutes. Do you agree with this. If this is true what hope do we all have eh?

My take is that i belive some girls use their looks to earn money an 'easy' way. By easy, I mean that they do not have to train for yrs to get a decent paid job, or they do not have to work 9 to 5 in an office when they can earn a wks wages in a day.

I have asked my own dp and he beleives that there is something missing from a relationship if a man sees a prostitute.Obviously its different with a single man. He also thinks that some men have issues sexually with their wives/partners and are inhibited. Therefore, that is why they pay for sex acts that they can't ask for at home. These are exactly my thoughts.Anyone agree or disagree?

I'd like your thoughts or experiences!

you have forgotten something msmont

Bizarre thread is bizarre.

It's a long time since I've seen so many sockpuppets in one place.

Goodness me, I was away working on my other business and doing my accounts for both, who said we are not honest and do not pay tax??
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BillieH Thu 11-Nov-10 22:08:32
Sabrina , why is wanking a male term?Don't you use that word?Is it because the terminology you use on punternet is Hand relief. This sounds so sooting and not at all like the sex act it is.

Malificence, some excellent posts.Particularly, by putting it into perpective with the '9 out of 10 men wouldn't'.

Btw. I don't think the prostitutes are doing themselves any favours on here. All this talk of watch where your husband is and the like, is painting a nasty picture of yourselves. Are you really so alluring that our men couldn't resist?
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BillieH/Sequel your posts do not make sense when you are 1 of the 1 in 10 that use prostitutes. Why come clean publicly on PN then still post here as if you are a deranged female??

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Sequel, on 11 November 2010 - 13:34, said:
Actually I have a confession to make, it was me that posted on Mumsnet under the name of BillieH and I'm sorry if I've caused any upset to Lindi, but I just wanted to highlight to you lot that can spot a troll poster from a mile off, that you can't see bo diddly! I don't think Lindilala is a troll or attention seeking individual, just a normal family woman by all accounts who just happened to stray into this forum and then got caught up in all the rubbish along the way. The way her private life has been torn apart and trashed in this forum by some posters is akin to a pack of hounds chasing down and tearing apart a fox, probably not a good analogy but the best I can think of at the moment. I realise now that by doing what I have done has made it even worse for Lindi and so again I apologise to her.

If tne moderators wish to ban me for this stunt, I have no complaints.

Sequel.

I apologise for goading you anyfucker
my fault as I was looking for a wind up and I unfortunatly chose you

msmont accepted

I hope you get your decorating finished soon, it's a bloody thankless task.

Ps I used the posher word for wank than hand relief.......
Lingam Massage ;)

S x

Sorry but quizling you made me laugh out loud and I spilled my drink over my keyboard. Yep one gets the slight feeling all is not well with ElisabethAlice and perhaps there has been a rather acrimonious split. The level of rage seems unhealthy and a little unhinged.

I am still trying to work out how I can steal someone?s husband??? They pay me for a set time, and then I politely send them on their way. There is quite a variety of how we prostitutes market ourselves. Ironically, a lot of us including me show no nudity. I am quite boring in that respect. I find I can charge more showing less. Just the clientele I tend to attract that like to leave something to the imagination.

As for education, how do you think many especially young women now fund spiralling University costs? I really have nothing to prove to someone with such strange and outdated moralistic views. I am happy to have been able to enjoy a good school education and study. I actually entered this profession long after gaining qualification. As for language skills, let?s just say English is not even my third language lol

My concept of decency is to act respectfully and do not insult virtual strangers or behave in a totally bigoted hateful offensive way.

It is not I but you who should be laughed at or scorned for your self-delusion.

An educated woman with four languages decides to sell her body? What tale of woe have you got?

"Daddy didn't love me", "Uncle raped me", "Husband beat me up", "Boyfriend got me hooked on drugs",

Whatever it is, I'm sure it's always somebody else's fault.

Yes, I am angry that hard working, honest, decent women are mocked by the morally challenged because we believe in facing up to life and not running away to earn cheap money by selling our bodies.

What's worse is the way that prostitutes try to spread their morally dubious values through the rest of society. "It's only sex",
"We're not hurting anyone" "Men come to see us of their own free will"

But prostitutes do cause hurt only they don't see the damage they cause.

To love and be loved is the most precious thing but then to find that it's all a fiction because some cheap tart is offering your man a thrill. The broken emptiness that comes from being betrayed.

But then you prostitutes wouldn't understand the concepts of love and fidelity because for you lot, it's for sale, along with your knickers.

EA I think you mean 'to find it's all a fiction because actually your husband didn't love you enough to remain faithful'.

Out of interest what do you think our hourly rates are?

Why would I have a tale of woe? Who but you inferred that I was in any way unhappy or regretting my choices. I made my decision based on a rational appraisal of my future plans. I have worked and enjoyed a very demanding job. I wanted to scale back and pursue other projects. Unlike you I do not blame anyone. There is nothing to feel angry about or indeed to apportion blame for. I have not run away and am working hard both in my now part time role and in my escorting job. I am also starting up a design business.

I am happy with where my life is taking me. I offer a sexual service. I do not sell my body, I get to keep it.

I believe that my clients have the right to free will to seek my services. I know of many who are not in a relationship. I have a few very disabled clients that have come to see me to start exploring their sexual and sensual side. You do not just insult me but a lot my clients who have valid reasons to see me.

You do not have the moral superiority or monopoly on claiming pain. You may also get more sympathy if you were behaving in a more compassionate and less spiteful manner. Has it not occurred to you that it is precisely the kind of bile and aggression that you keep sowing here that may contribute to a relationship failing?

Again you have your concept of how a relationship should be. There are many others that are happy to explore their sexuality and have additional sex partners. It may not be your chosen path but you have no right to judge others, including sex workers here with partners who are in long committed loving relationships.

quiet night then?

Neither do you have the right to judge me or peddle sheer, nonsensical "happy hooker" myth.

Feigning hurt on behalf of "clients" just won't wash. The dirty mac brigade. Look at all the men from punternet now on mumsnet, did you whores order them here?

If prostitution is so attractive then why don't more women do it? Why don't more women go to bed they don't find remotely attractive in return for money?

Could it be that ordinary women have a sense of self-worth, self-respect and honesty which prostitutes don't have?

ElisabethAlice Thu 11-Nov-10 23:24:27

It is not I but you who should be laughed at or scorned for your self-delusion.

But then you prostitutes wouldn't understand the concepts of love and fidelity because for you lot, it's for sale, along with your knickers.

I totally understand the concept of fidelity but its your refusal to understand the concept of prostitution that is the delusion.

You cant sell snow to Eskimos. The fact our concept sells is not a delusion its a reality.

I advertise on a prostitute forum, not on a sticky note attached to your fridge.

I dont enter your world, men find me.

Im not saying fidelity does not work, Im telling you it doesnt work for everyone.

ElisabethAlice Thu 11-Nov-10 23:24:27

It is not I but you who should be laughed at or scorned for your self-delusion.

But then you prostitutes wouldn't understand the concepts of love and fidelity because for you lot, it's for sale, along with your knickers.

*I totally understand the concept of fidelity but its your refusal to understand the concept of prostitution that is the delusion.

You cant sell snow to Eskimos. The fact our concept sells is not a delusion its a reality.

I advertise on a prostitute forum, not on a sticky note attached to your fridge.

I dont enter your world, men find me.

Im not saying fidelity does not work, Im telling you it doesnt work for everyone.*

I have some experience in this subject. My ex-daughter-in-law resorted to prostitution after she and my son split up. He behaved disgracefullly towards her and their 2 children after the split and she thought it was the only way to put food on the table. She admitted this to me when we were having a heart to heart one day. I told her that she did what she thought she had to do and I for one wouldn't hold it against her. Of course I would rather have known what was going on at the time but was kept in the dark.

V.

Errr re-reading the entire thread, it is quite clear that I made no judgements except respond to your extremely aggressive and insulting posts in a calm manner despite the ongoing abuse.

I have every right to state that I made a decision which I am happy to live with to enter the sex industry. I did so without any background of abuse or tragedy. I am happy as a person and am not just defined by the jobs I do. I clearly stated before that this line of work would not suit everyone. You have to be a stable person to begin with, something that does not apply to all posters here. And you may not be aware of the number of women who are working in this profession but there is a steady growing number who enter this line of work as they feel there is no stigma for them. Ironically, the only abuse or negative reaction I have so far faced is via some posters here. My friends that are not in the industry are happy for me as I have the time to pursue long term projects, work independently and have more time for my loved ones. They are not insecure in their relationships to see me as the enemy.

There is actually quite a high number of WGs that are work for low wages in the nursing sector. They can stay in those professions because they subsidise their income with escorting. Maybe they are well suited to sex work as they are not screamish and have a warm and caring attitude.

You seem to use second hand hate propaganda as a basis for your views on prostitution hence tired and ignorant clichés such as the dirty mac brigade.

Ah, now you're on the defensive.

Actually the dirty mac brigade do describe most prostitute clients. It's better than the lies that prostitutes peddle that they service "disabled men".

Anyway you don't seem to be a very successful prostitute, do you? What are you doing spending your evening on mumsnet for?

Isn't there a whole line of men you have to bend over for?

Only responding to the OP

If you are asking me to be totally honest, the whole sex industry thing for me belongs in the underbelly of society.

I don't mean this to sound like PLU smuggery. But the reality of my life and the vast majority of people's lives is that the sex industry just doesn't figure.

So all this prostitution/massage parlours/pole-dancing seems to me to be a choice made by people who have no other choices. The trafficked, the exploited, the uneducated, the unemployable. the sleazy and morally suspect.

I imagine the clientele to be mainly middle-aged tubby balding men who would have difficulty attracting members of the opposite sex. Or in fact the same sex.

Yawn. And to think that role play is part of the job description. 0/10 for the trollery guys.

Quattrocento - the OP admittted on Punter & Prosse Net that he was a man.

Bille H is a fake.

this thread is hilarious, it's descended into a Troll-off.

Actually, I have not changed my stance despite your constant abuse and insults. I can see you have little respect for anyone and are consumed with bile and hatred. I actually meet clients and thus have more of an insight then you of who they are. The comments about disabled customers is not even worthy of a response. I am a member of TLC and support their aims.

Actually, I was offline and working earlier today. The beauty of my job is that I often only work for 2 hours a day and make a decent living. I am not greedy and consider £360 for a couple of hours a day a lovely income. Again despite the clichés you are subscribing too, we mostly actually see clients during the day. I am not often out and about at nights working unless I have a dinner and private service booking or an overnight. I actually vet booking requests and tend to limit the number of clients. I am keen to stay positive and not burn myself out or gawd forbid adopt a bitter and negative attitude. I am intending to stay in this profession for many years to come so look after my mental and physical health.

The bitterness and unhinged aggression of your posts indicate a recent or ongoing separation. All of us encounter that at some stage of our lives. That does however not give you a carte blanche to attack others.

LOL at all the people who have invaded mumsnet calling the mothers on here a lynch mob. Oh, the sweet irony.

After the lynch mob from punternet insisted on drawing my attention to that pathetic little site, I had a look at the reviews section.

What sad sad tales. One bloke rated a girl as NO (not to be recommended) because she wasn't enthusiastic enough and he 'likes sex to be 50/50'.
Just how deluded are these guys? THE GIRLS ARE ONLY HAVING SEX WITH YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE PAYING THEM. There is no 50/50 about it, no matter how good of an actress she is, no matter how much she convinces you she's enjoying it: if you didn't have the money she wouldn't be there. If you pay a woman for sex it is never 50/50. 50/50 sex is reserved for men that women are sexually attracted to.

ANother bloke saying YES (recommended) but warns other punters that she's got saggy tits and stretch marks.

And these jokers think the women on here are jealous that prostitutes get to shag these lovely catches.

Just how many delusions does it take for the wheels of this industry to spin?

"What do you call the wife of the client I had, who tearfully revealed how little concern his wife showed him?....the pain caused from the realisation she had married him purely for the material comforts he could provide."

What would I call him? a punter, a criminal, a misogynist. Perhaps she knew these things too.