How do you feel about prostitution?

[BillieH]

Hello everyone, I have name changed for this(no sinister reason) but i do post on here from time to time.

Anyway, I would love to know what your thoughts are on prostitution. I don't mean political views and I dont really want to get into a discussion on whether girls are trafficked, pimped, druggies. Just what you think as a whole.

I am talking about girls who willing become escorts or work in massage parlours under the guise of 'masseuses' when really they provide extras.

What do you think of men who see them? Are that losers, sad and lonely, 'sex addicts'or what? Would you think your dp/dh was cheating if he saw a prostitute.

I ask just out of curiosity, I do not think my dp has ever visited a prostitute! Also, apparently 1 in 10 men see prostitutes. Do you agree with this. If this is true what hope do we all have eh?

My take is that i belive some girls use their looks to earn money an 'easy' way. By easy, I mean that they do not have to train for yrs to get a decent paid job, or they do not have to work 9 to 5 in an office when they can earn a wks wages in a day.

I have asked my own dp and he beleives that there is something missing from a relationship if a man sees a prostitute.Obviously its different with a single man. He also thinks that some men have issues sexually with their wives/partners and are inhibited. Therefore, that is why they pay for sex acts that they can't ask for at home. These are exactly my thoughts.Anyone agree or disagree?

I'd like your thoughts or experiences!

Some prostitutes are mothers and are already a member of mumsnet, I have come because there was a thread on something I know about (prositution)

Feel free to start a topic on the off topic on Punternet, about recipes (The Vicar will love that)he makes very good cakes, preserves and biscuits and always looking for new recipes.

some punters are mums? maybe, but on the whole statistics show they're blokes

punternet sounds shit. mumsnet is loads better. THat's why everyone's on here and not on there.

By entering the profession you are condoning the abuse of women and children, end of.

Mmmmh, Sakura as someone in the sex profession reading the level of vitriol and insults flung into my direction, the most vociferous puritan voices appear to be of fellow women.

And if you cared to delve a little into the history of religious persecution, you would find there were a fair number of male witches/warlocks persecuted as well. It might have been the men of the cloth chairing the inquisition but sadly the denouncing and persecution can be clearly seen was heaped on both male and female victims by the fine upstanding women of the communities! Who was usually in the front row screaming abuse at the hanged and burned women? Who was knitting right in front of the guillotine? Let?s not be too smug about gender bias when it comes to persecuting those marginalised by society!

See Misshoney....women have always been exploited to such a degree that we are a fractured group....some even fuck others husbands for money. Misogyny is a clever thing,m it can make women hate themselves/.

You are right Sakura, I find the prostitutes and punters much better company.

I bid you farewell and would like to extend thanks to those not in the industry that gave some intelligent and balanced views.

S x

I am not on punternet, hadnt even heard of it till yesterday And just for the record I dont have any problem with prostitution, so long as the woman chose this career, trafficking etc is awful

I save my vitriol for the punters MissHoney
Peace

"And as for the ex prostitute, well I think you are being proper self righteous, you've been there done it and yes, now you have gave it up but given that you have no business firing off abuse to the ladies who are still working."

Yep, actually I agree with you. I have been self righteous a little reading back my posts on here. Sorry to have offended anyone, but it's something I do feel passionately about.

Anyway, enough ranting from me! I do hope though I have given another insight into the business as someone who has succesfully left the industry. Sadly for me, I have nothing good to say about it, and I never will.

Peace out, and good luck x

Sequel, on 11 November 2010 - 13:34, said:
Actually I have a confession to make, it was me that posted on Mumsnet under the name of BillieH

punternet.....

Can this be deleted now then?

Pack mentality, bullying, persecution are not the preserve of one gender Posy, sadly that has been highlighted by a number of posters on this and similar threads.

Your comment to me shows a glimpse of where this vitriol against sex workers comes from with the comment of ?fucking others husbands?. It seems the moral puritan outrage against harlots is a question of defending ones possessions including husbands. We don?t steal men/husbands; we provide a service and send them on their way. I have no idea what percentage of my clients is married, it is of no interest to me. I do not take what belongs to someone else. Some posters seem to feel hatred towards sex workers and possibly themselves. I don?t and I am not the one spouting continuous unnecessary abuse and profanities. Disloyalty is not the preserve of one gender. If anyone is concerned about fidelity than prostitutes are not the danger/cause/root. Deception and betrayal happen to both men and women in partnerships. Those involved can be your siblings, friends, colleagues or strangers. You simply cannot go around hating them all. Well you can but it is unhealthy as is the level of animosity shown against sex workers.

heard about this discussion on pnet so thought i may contribute.
it seems that there are some women who are more interested in punishing men than in protecting women who choose sex work
what happens in private between consenting adults is no business of any moral supremacist,do we agree on that?

Sakura it saddens me to hear that you save your vitriol for the ?punters?. Our clients are human beings who could be anyone?s son, brother, father, grandfather, uncle and any other male relation or indeed your partner. Can you not concede that at least some part of them is worthy of affection?

MissHoney....what you do to earn money cannot come from an upbringing of love and safety. You can pretend it does but we all know that punters are desperate people who cannot rely on their personalities and/or looks to have sex and prostitutes are part of a culture that allows a person's body to be a commodity. Once you sell something it is never your own again.

I really wish they'd fuck off back to
wanker punter net.

This board is a safe haven for women who have been betrayed by men just like the creeps on that unfortunate site, invading MN like this just isn't on.

9 in 10 men wouldn't touch a prostitute, that speaks volumes.
The remaining 1 in 10 men obviously have major issues with women or serious personality flaws.

it suprises me that some on here are more hostile to men who pay for sex rather than those men who commit rape,murder women,abuse children,commit acts of terrorism,carry out honour killings but of course punters are a soft target & everyone wants a soft target to shake off all the hatred that they have within them
my soft target is rich people who are to blame for prostitution

That's so not it - we think men who pay for sex are pathetic and in some cases, abusive yes but why should this mean we aren't hostile to other vile men too?

Some punters are rapists too, the ones who use trafficked and drug adicted young women and underage girls.

Soft target my arse.

"it suprises me that some on here are more hostile to men who pay for sex rather than those men who commit rape,murder women,abuse children,commit acts of terrorism,carry out honour killings"

why have you read threads about those issues too?

And why does paying for sex mean someone can't be part of one of those groups too?

What does your wife say about you shagging Pro's punterpride?

This is aimed at Malificence. Strangely I thought this board was a gathering forum for women/mothers. I had no idea one had to be bitter and feel betrayed to participate? It would explain some of the tone and sentiments on this thread especially. Just to remind you there are quite a number of members that do work in the sex industry.

There seems to be a fallacy about clients and statistics. Just counting the numbers of clients a lot of us have, I daresay the real numbers are much higher than one in ten. These clients are not evil aliens but could be people that you know and respect. Some probably have some personality defect; some are a delight to meet. Some are fairly young, attractive and really have no need to pay for sex at least by your definitions. Some do see us because they are at a stage of their career where they work long and unsociable hours that leaves no time to have a relationship. They could objectify women by exploiting their looks and money to have one night stands and never be heard off again. I have some disabled clients that want to be around an attractive woman that neither pities them nor patronises them.

Just because some of you cannot reconcile the thought of intimacy with someone outside a partnership does not mean it affects those that have chosen this line of work. It is astounding the level of dogmatic vilification about people and an industry you have no actual knowledge of. This is really is not such a simplistic black and white world. It takes a bit more mental effort to recognise and respect some of the fine nuances.

I need not go into detail....suffice to say that ironically, it is female vitriol of the nature being shown in this thread, that may well have sewn a seed for the path my life has taken.

As for the comment "some even fuck others husbands for money." - Some women even fuck their OWN husbands for money. A fellow prostitute has a friend who openly admits she neither loves nor fancies her husband, staying with him purely for the lifestyle. What do you call her?

What do you call the wife of the client I had, who tearfully revealed how little concern his wife showed him?....the pain caused from the realisation she had married him purely for the material comforts he could provide.

My aunt has four sons and two daughters all of whom are married - so we have six males....I often mused to myself there was a good chance that at least one was actively involved in the sex industry...I was right.

Well, it's really good to know that lot's of members here use the Daily Mail as a guide to things they don't know anything about.

Mumsnet as a whole is a gathering place for women/mothers (and men) - the relationships board is very much a place of refuge for very vulnerable and upset women most of the time, that's why talk of the normalcy of prostitution has no place here.
Several very regular posters have had their lives all but destroyed by their husbands' predilictions for sex with prostitutes.

If using prostitutes is seen as acceptable and normal, why do men hide the fact if they do use them , surely if it was a healthy activity they would be unashamed in telling all and sundry?

To avoid an ignorant lynch mob perhaps?