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The Brave Babes Battle Bus - Carry On Past The Homebrew In The Shed!

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HammerMouseOfHorrors · 28/10/2010 17:45

Hello, I'm Mouse. Smile

Welcome to the Brave Babes Bus. You can get on at any point in the journey, there is plenty of room, it's free to ride and there is always someone who will be along to hold your hand over the speedbumps!

So, no matter where you are in your quest to quit the booze, join us for support, advice and a fair few laughs along the way Grin

There is no judging, no cliques, just real poster with real problems being real and honest!

Come and meet the others.....

Here is the previous thread where you can read all of the threads so far, including JWN's original thread and the reason we are all here.

OP posts:
Silver66 · 04/11/2010 18:42

eeeeerm Dipso would beg to differ on that -have you asked about de-tox?? I would say none of us are 'physically dependent' but that's not the issue - mental dependence is worse - we can all stop without physically falling apart - but we still keep drinking - speaks for itself I think but whatever you decide we are here for you Grin xxx

Silver66 · 04/11/2010 18:44

Got to for now - brat of a ten year old on my back for compoooter - f**ing kids Grin!!!

venusandgunpowder · 04/11/2010 18:52

Moose Loose aboot the Hoose Grin Grin

OK, in no particular order... Sleeping good sleep starts with a good routine, relaxing warm (not hot) bath, gentle stretching (yoga-ish / taichi), warm drink (warm milk is very good but I hate it, and pineapple or banana also have sleep inducing ingredients), restful activity (reading, writing a diary etc), dark room (not too hot), perhaps a lavender spray on your pillow, some gentle meditation, perhaps an orgasm. No tea, coffee, or stimulating activity (TV, strenuous exercise, computer games). Herbal nytol is good. Non-herbal remedies often include anti-histamines, and they certainly leave me feeling horribly groggy the next day.

Next sex or more accurately sober sex. In my first marriage I had a very bad relationship between alcohol and unwanted sex. It is very, very good when those links are broken. For me sober sex is more intimate, is more sensual (I guess because I can feel things more), and involves much, much more kissing - mmmmmmm.

Next underlying issues I think that the evidence is that alcohol as a drug is not SO addictive that our alcohol problems result just from drinking too much, and there is usualy some emotional need that we are temporarily soothing by using alcohol. It may be lack of self confidence, fear of intimacy, not being able to deal with anxiety, being a bit 'bored/depressed' and looking for a stimulant, or many, many others. For me alcohol just became my habitual way of dealing with things. So without a drink - yes I am having to find new ways of dealing with things and I am having to face some uncomfortable facets of myself. But, NONE of them are as uncomfortable or difficult as facing the fact that I am an alcoholic, and none of them are so bad that it is worth ruining my life for.

Probably lots of other things I'd like to say, but I'll need to go an re-read the thread...

venusandgunpowder · 04/11/2010 18:57

dipso well done on speaking to your doctor. I hope the meds work for you, and that you also get some support from people who can really help you (including us, of course).

MissPerrier · 04/11/2010 19:23

Good very evening to you all. Venus I completely agree with you about sober sex. Especially the kissing bit... Infact I will jump on DH when he gets home and snog him! Grin

WhizzBangdeNial · 04/11/2010 19:26

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witchetychicky · 04/11/2010 19:27

I'm feeling very envious of those of you with DH and DP's to jump on Envy.
I think I had better let my DC answer the door to the Tesco delivery man!!

Dipso · 04/11/2010 19:41

Thanks Venus and also for your longer post, full of inspiration and wisdom. Your talk of sober sex was lovely, I wish I had someone to have it with :( *Silver", yes I did ask about detox some time ago and was gutted because I was refused. I don't go through physical withdrawal when I stop drinking, am only (ONLY she says!) psychologically dependent. But if this stuff I'm on can reduce the cravings even just a bit, who knows.

ZanyWany · 04/11/2010 19:43

Well I didn't think I had any problems with drunken sex seen as I enjoy it drunk tipsy or sober.....until my ex told me the other day that I once fell asleep for 5 mins during, woke up and then carried on. Embarrasinly no recollection!!!!

Whitenapteen · 04/11/2010 19:52

Evening All
It's been a busy day or two - just catching up.
Diabolik good to see you are feeling brighter.
Can't remember who said if only you could bottle that 'yeurghhh' feeling the morning after to remember the next time the urge comes upon you to drink - perhaps keeping a copy of a posting on here might be the next best thing?
Dipso - really hope that with your GP on side you can get to grips with not drinking and give DD a big hug - she clearly loves her mummy.
Mouse hope the meds are working on that troublesome tooth and that Nemo (and therefore you) have a restful night.
Whizzbang go give the DTs a cuddle and get set for Day 1.

To everyone else, thank you for your thoughts, they resonate with me and have helped me through a few days of being sorely tempted to pour myself a glass of wine.

Mousefawkes · 04/11/2010 20:04

Have you all finished with the Moose jokes?

Wasindie - go and sit on the norty step at the back of the bus please whilst I decide what to do with you. Well done for stopping though!

WNT - nice to see you and thank you for your kind thoughts.

Zany - glad you are still around. I have passed out pissed fallen asleep during sex too, not very nice for the person you are with.

Witchety - ROFL at shagging the Tesco's delivery driver, yours are clearly nicer than mine!!

MissP - evening!

venus - great check list!

Off to find some form of food to suck.

Grin
Silver66 · 04/11/2010 20:22

Moose just half way thru your post - my GOD have you only JUST learned how to underline - you are soooooooooooooothick tee hee heeGrin

Dipso · 04/11/2010 20:22

WBN, am off to put my PJs on too and looking forward to climbing into bed. Has the food and water helped? Alas, am in same boat as Witchety with no-one to jump on. Actually, I've forgotten what sex is like but did feel a vague stirring of something or other at work today when a rather gawjus GP at the practice where I work engaged me in a lengthy conversation (work-related of course).

Anyway. Get sober first. Maybe get man next. Or maybe not.

Silver66 · 04/11/2010 20:30

Dipso - lie about your drinking - probably the only time you will need exaggerate to your GP and quite frankly if they won't sort out a de-tox then find another GP or talk direct to CAT people. simples Grin. As soon as I talked about my 'problem' to my GP he had no problem with the de-tox. far better to get well now and not cost NHS money with long term drink related probelms - oh god i sound like a tory again - anyway you know what I mean - and I think acamprosate is usually prescribed after a person has been sober for a while as a long term deterant - actually the more I think about it - you need a new doctor.... sorry for being a bombastic dick Grin xxxx

venusandgunpowder · 04/11/2010 20:32

Mouse but we are not joking, that's how we really talk up here. We may write mouse but in our heads it reads as MOOSE Grin Grin Grin

Zany, I think that my dp didn't really 'like' making love to me when I was pissed, and it must have been pretty horrid to kiss me (which is probably why we didn't) Blush

Whizzbang well done for putting your pj's on, and stopping what you've started. What I'm wondering is how you keep managing to get alcohol in your house for you to drink. Do you have a magic bottle that keeps filling itself up, or are you actually stopping at the shops and buying it? Tongue in cheek question, of course, but I guess you know what I'm asking. And what would be the best way to stop you buying it in the first place? I know that I've had a couple of really frustrating evenings when I've been craving a drink and had nothing in, but I have got through it.

Silver66 · 04/11/2010 20:35

PS - anyone want a 'lovely' 2 year old cat called Jezza - free to new home with year supply of food and vets bills paid in advance - pedigree????? PLEASE otherwise I am going to rip him limb from limb............Shock

venusandgunpowder · 04/11/2010 20:36

dipso good plan - get sober, stay sober. Then maybe new man / maybe not. At least you will remember Smile

Have a good night and sleep nicely. Ommmmm (or "Aum" to be more precise).

hubbabubbababba · 04/11/2010 20:44

Evening all, I haven't been on since Tuesday and haven't had a chance to catch up yet but hope everyone is doing well and feeling groovy. I ended up having a glass of wine last night and promptly threw it all back up...odd reaction I thought but it was all explained by a positive pregnancy test! So it would appear I have stopped drinking just in the nick of time. I'm wondering now if when I gave up originally about 6 weeks ago made my body a better candidate for pregnancy as dh and I have never used any contraception since 17mo dd was born but I've never caught before.

Dipso · 04/11/2010 20:44

You too Venus and all you other lovely ladies, whatever stage you're at.

I'm off to do some meditating now, so aum it is x

Looking forward to having pill no.2 with my cereal in the morning

Dipso · 04/11/2010 20:46

And many congrats hubba. That was the one time I stopped craving alcohol completely, whilst being pregnant. Very interesting that you conceived such a short time after stopping. Well done.

Silver66 · 04/11/2010 20:58

Fantastic news Hubba - congratulations Wink - off to bed now - methinks said too much to Dipso - sorry babe - nite nite xxxxx

witchetychicky · 04/11/2010 21:00

Congratulations hubbabubba
x

Mousefawkes · 04/11/2010 21:07

Silver

Where exactly have I underlined anything in my posts..... I think you will find, el thicko, it was the lovely venus that was underlining

Is it time for your tablets deary? Grin

venus - I know that you say Moose up there and that's cool. Silver has NO excuse, she's just being rude to me.

Which is fine. Really.

hubba - yay!! Congratulations!!! What lovely, lovely news. You are our second Brave Babe to be pregnant. Maddogs being the first (I think?) and her absence would suggest to me that she is very busy with her new arrival.

WhizzBangdeNial · 04/11/2010 21:08

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Mousefawkes · 04/11/2010 21:18

Night Wasindie

Sleep well xx

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