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Infidelity and the responsibilties it brings...

156 replies

redundenator · 22/10/2010 02:13

This is my first NM posting - and first of all let me say that I am male and in this I am attempting to explain the thought process a man has when considering infidelity. I am trying to bring something to the party from the other side of the fence and explain why people cheat (and how...).

First of all let me say that the majority of relationships I've had (both in and out of wedlock) have been with other people?s wives. I enjoy the excitement it brings now and enjoyed the freedom it conferred when I was single (not in terms of commitment but in that it allowed a passionate and exciting "fling" without any of the ties that come with a relationship).

As someone else?s partner, when embarking on "extra-curricular" activities it should be emphasised from the outset that one has an over-riding responsibility NO TO GET CAUGHT. Reading some of the heartbreaking experiences other posters are going through no one would wish to inflict that an ones partner.

So, cutting to the chase, why cheat at all? DW and I have a good physical relationship however, in my experience, sexuality is as diverse and varied as the clouds in the sky and we all have fantasies and desires we would be ashamed to admit (even sometimes to ourselves!). The likelihood of finding a partner who matches you perfectly in the regard is remote, however the majority (and I do think it is the majority) of people manage very well without feeling the need to indulge their primal urges outside their own marriage.

Some of us are not satisfied within the bounds of that relationship - at this point choices exist. End your relationship (could be a baby/bathwater scenario there!), sit on your desires (noble, restrained, admirable), have an ?affair? of some description (dangerous and fraught with hazards).

I would postulate that ?diversions? fall into two broad types. A. Partner feels neglected / unloved / unattractive / taken for granted and seeks affirmation in the arms of another. B. Partner wants a type of sexual interaction their husband / wife is uncomfortable / unwilling to consider.

Type A: You have issues within the relationship - don?t have an affair - either sort out the relationship or move on - one life at the end of the day.

Type B: The relationship may be 95% good - either sit on it or carefully seek an outlet elsewhere.

And it is in Type B that the rub, dear readers, falls. So let?s say - and remember that in this instance my experience is with other peoples wives - you decide to seek an outlet.

  1. You need someone who will be utterly discrete. Only sensible option, imho, is someone else?s partner, someone who has no intention of disrupting their marriage but seeks a little diversion. They have as much to lose as you do and will understand the need for a communications ?curfew? when partners are around.
  1. Have an e-mail account solely for cheating. Protect this scrupulously and delete as much as possible.
  1. A pay as you go phone is a must. This should be the ?work phone? you leave switched off and locked in your briefcase when at home.
  1. Always always always pay cash when conducting your ?business? elsewhere.
  1. Never be tempted to take risks with communications when your partner is around.
  1. This is the really key one - define the limits of the relationship from the outset. My current diversion and I do not kiss - this is an intimacy reserved for our partners. We have fantastic relations on an infrequent basis and always fuelled by intense cyber fore-play which leads to explosive meetings.

Why am I taking the time to write all this - well, I want to reassure some of you that seeking outlets elsewhere need not end in disaster if you are careful. Secondly remember that you have a responsibility not to mess it up if you do - risks are exciting but you must be careful at all times.

It is a universal truth that what you don?t know doesn?t hurt you. You will be surprised how many of you, while seething with outrage at my cynical perfidious dalliances, will be in exactly this position as your partners slake their thirsts elsewhere (look how many ?I can?t believe its me post there are.....). What you haven?t found out hasn?t hurt you - and provided your DH/DW acts responsibly it never will.

I would welcome your thoughts and observations (but let?s try and keep it reasoned and rational!). Happy to discuss further in private......

OP posts:
MalificenceBloodandSand · 22/10/2010 10:26

This is exactly the same style of "writing" as the arsehole who tried to educate me on what my husband is really like (on a lapdancing/porn thread a few months ago).

How sad and pathetic does someone have to be to try and actively upset potentially vulnerable women on a forum where infidelity is ripping lives to shreds? For amusement.

DICKHEAD

Yet another one to add to the list of dickless wonders.

NerdyFace · 22/10/2010 10:28

Would like it noted that OP does not represent the majority of men!

Just a select group of twats, who fuck up everything for the rest of us

MalificenceBloodandSand · 22/10/2010 10:30

We do know that Nerdy - most of us actually like and respect most men.
I've been married to one for 25 years so I must like him. Wink

earlymorningwaking · 22/10/2010 10:32

I don't consider OP a 'man'. :)

NerdyFace · 22/10/2010 10:35

Hehe, I just wanted it pointed out!
I feel the need to defend my sex when we have utter Arse-Dribbles like the OP making an absolute twat of himself!

MalificenceBloodandSand · 22/10/2010 10:39

We have regular back slapping threads where we congratulate each other on our choice of good husbands. Grin
It's not all doom and gloom.

RubyPink · 22/10/2010 10:48

Wonder if anyone will take up his 'tempting' offer of 'discussing it in private'... Hmm

HappyWithLife · 22/10/2010 10:48

OP, your lack of subtleness is astounding. You are clearly looking for a pick up...'discuss in private my arse'...go to POF, you could do it to your hearts content there. I really hope, if you are not a troll, that your wife is a mumsnetter and recognises you.
However, as it's half term I rather suspect that you are a spotty, pre pubescent little boy who is trying to get his kicks.

RubyPink · 22/10/2010 10:49

Wonder if anyone will take him up on his 'tempting' offer of 'discussing it in private' Hmm

RubyPink · 22/10/2010 10:50

oops

GoreRenewed · 22/10/2010 10:52

How can a 'rub' fall?

"And it is in Type B that the rub, dear readers, falls"

GoreRenewed · 22/10/2010 10:54

"will be in exactly this position as your partners slake their thirsts elsewhere "

You are so right! My DH slakes his thirst in the pub. Frequently.

Bastard! He should have kept it quiet.

HappyWithLife · 22/10/2010 11:00

And Nerdy, we know men are in general lovely Grin

Sherbert37 · 22/10/2010 11:06

OP begins by mentioning NM not MN, so probably a cut and paste job.

MalificenceBloodandSand · 22/10/2010 11:07

Well spotted that woman! Smile

HappyWithLife · 22/10/2010 11:16

OP...you talk far too much, I'm afraid I would find you way too boring. I'm afraid your conversational skills reflect rather badly on your sexual prowess.I'm amazed your harem doesn't fall asleep half way through.

NerdyFace · 22/10/2010 11:18

They are asleep to begin with HWL the ONLY way op gets women is with Rohypnol!

redundenator · 22/10/2010 11:19

Thanks for the input people - a little more negative than I was expecting but from a parenting site I guess you are right. And no - I'm not a Troll.

I do however - and in all seriousness - think that the absolutes of right and wrong have little to do with this. I stick to my original point - its all about NO GETTING CAUGHT.

(I'm not Clarkson, and no - no one has felt the need to air their views in private!).

Thanks for the input people - a little more negative than I was expecting but from a parenting site I guess you are right. And no - I'm not a Troll.

I do however - and in all seriousness - think that the absolutes of right and wrong have little to do with this. I stick to my original point - its all about NO GETTING CAUGHT.

(I'm not Clarkson, and no - no one has felt the need to air their views in private!).

(I work in a predominantly male environment, out of seventy men here only about five have never cheated on their wives by the way).

OP posts:
DuelingFanjo · 22/10/2010 11:25

why say it twice dickhead?

HappyWithLife · 22/10/2010 11:25

Like I said, talk so much you are now repeating yourself. Cheaters always get caught. And can I ask...do you cheat with each other? I mean, between you and your 64 cheating cohorts you must have exhausted the supply of women in the region.

HappyWithLife · 22/10/2010 11:28

Are you at work now OP?

NerdyFace · 22/10/2010 11:28

That must be why he typed it twice?

He was so busy being spit roasted by his "colleagues" he Copy and Pasted it twice?

redundenator · 22/10/2010 11:29

As for my wife cheating on me - who's to say she isn't. She works away from home a lot...

See. I don't know - and I'm not hurt.

Ta Da!

OP posts:
PeppermintPasty · 22/10/2010 11:31

he's not married, and i suspect he's never had sex.

Appletrees · 22/10/2010 11:31

"dear readers"

bleurgh

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