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brave battling babes get even better without the booze!

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jesuswhatnext · 08/08/2010 15:27

10 weeks ago i started a thread asking for help - i was in a very desperate place, totally dependent on alchohol, unhappy, lonely and floundering around trying to make sense of it all. i was in danger of losing everything i hold dear.

in those few short weeks, i have got my life back and picked up a few computer friends along the way - we help each other, support each other, and laugh and cry together - if you would like to join us, please feel free - no judging, preaching, sermonising or moralising - we are simply ordinary people with a bloody awful illness!

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Mouseface · 09/08/2010 22:38
venusandmars · 09/08/2010 22:53

Hi mousey tears. It's been an emotional night huh!

Needs to please just post what you feel. That is the real value of this thread. Real people saying real things.

Sometimes I read something that someone has posted and I think hmmmm.... that's not going to go down well... then a few posts later someone else says ' thankyou, just what I needed to hear'.

Sometime I write what I think is the 'right thing to say' and it seems to fall flat or on deaf ears. Sometimes I try to be clever and I really piss people off. Sometimes I waffle a load of shite and people are moved and helped by it.

Post from your heart, not from your head.

venusandmars · 09/08/2010 22:55

Mousey, I'd like a hug and a cold-water bottle, if you have one (at my great age I get too hot too often). And I'd like to be 4 inches taller, can you manage that?

NeedsTo · 09/08/2010 22:55

Thanks venus - you're right.

Smile
NeedsTo · 09/08/2010 22:58

I've been wondering tonight too about my antidepressants and think that those combined with the booze have become a bit of a 'chicken/egg' situation.

I keep reminding myself that I want to be healthy both physically and emotionally and that having a drink or six isn't helping on either front.

NeedsTo · 09/08/2010 22:59
Mouseface · 09/08/2010 23:02

Yes, very emotional. I wish I could take the pain away from those who feel it. Wrap them up and keep them safe.

I'm going to crawl to bed, so tired now.

Day 8. Done.

Venus, you are truly amazing. I'm so glad I found your post the day I did. I rather think that you have saved my life, the life I love!

Night. xx

venusandmars · 09/08/2010 23:27

You've made me cry again.

I'm off to bed in preparation for an exciting day with 80 year old MIL tomorrow.

venusandmars · 09/08/2010 23:30

Oh, and I'm not amazing or wonderful or anything else. I'm just a drunk like the rest of you, and I happened to be around tonight. I'm not drinking now, but that's the only difference. You are all the wonderful computer fairies.

fluxy3 · 10/08/2010 00:00

Feeling quite good with myself... open bottle of red in the kitchen plus a bottle of rose in the fridge... no need to get up in the morning for work... busy night with 2 extras for a sleepover....plus a busy day cleaning... DID NOT HAVE A DRINK.
This thread keeps me strong, Thank you.
Night all. Sleep well. x

WasindieNial · 10/08/2010 00:22

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MelvynMummy · 10/08/2010 00:32

Don't think anyone will remember me. I posted just over 8 weeks ago that I was going to stop drinking.
I have tried to have a drink actually in that time, once. I had 3 sips and chucked the rest. Just don't like it anymore. I'm not saying I will never drink again. But as far as the here and now is, I AM NOT DRINKING.
I feel loads better.
Much more energy.
Pleasant to the kids.
Let all the usual shite with small kids wash over me.
Lost over a stone in weight.
Look loads better.
My mum complimented me today on how I look and told m how worried she had been before I stopped. Said she wached me on holiday drinking wine like it was squash and worrying that it wasn't having a massive effect on me.
Am so proud to be making her proud of me.

A friend of mine who was also struggling at the same time came on here. She sopped for a while and even went to AA but had a blip. Anyway she stopped 3 weeks ago again and whist struggling, she has stopped for now. So well done MultipleMummy.

Well done us all.

MelvynMummy · 10/08/2010 00:34

Sorry everyone seems to be having a shit night. I have only just read WasIndies last post, not the whole thread. Will now back read the lot! sorry. x

MIFLAW · 10/08/2010 00:38

I see I've missed all the excitement.

I'm meant to be working (my own fault) but, as Max used to say, I wanna tell you a story.

My dad died when I was 12 and, from then on, the main male role model in my life was my mum's dad. I idolised him.

He died when I was 20. I was in Russia at the time and had to fly home specially. I got drunk in Helsinki airport and fell asleep in the toilet on the plane. I was home for about a week before the funeral and, because of ticket problems, about two weeks after the funeral.

That period is the first time I can remember going out specifically to get drunk. Every night I went to my local, sat on my own, drinking, and walked home at closing time howling at the wind at the unfairness of it all. At the funeral, though normally a beer and wine drinker, I hit the scotch hard and smoked 60 fags (I had smoked my first ever cigarette less than 6 months previously.)

I am sharing this with you all because I know for certain now what I sort of knew even then. Not one of those drinks helped with the pain, and not one of those drinks brought him back. On every walk home, the death of my granddad was no fairer than it had been on the walk to the pub.

At the same time, I effectively rendered myself useless to my mother, who had just lost her own father, less than three years after her mother. Indeed, that spell of drinking really "ramped it up" and, far from being a help to my mother, I probably started then to become an additional worry to her. I gave ruining her life my best shot for the next eight years. At my lowest ebb, my fear was not so much for myself (I kidded myself I was still young and strong, though drink had ensured that, in my mid-20s, I was neither) as for how I was hurting and disappointing my mother and how she would feel to have to bury me and to stay behind more alone than ever. That didn't stop me drinking, and the drinking didn't take away the fear. It was a particularly vicious emotional circle.

So there you go. That's my main experience of the use of alcohol to deal with sadness and lack of control. From that point on, alcohol gave me NOTHING (if it ever had) and tried to take everything.

Hope the rest of you don't have to wait 8 years to get out of that hole (which, one day at a time, is 2922 days, give or take) - and that, if it does, you are as lucky as I was and do not leave a corpse for your loved ones to bury in the process.

We can all do this, one day at a time - I am convinced to my soul that, if I can, you certainly can. What we can't do is play with it. All the time I was not taking my own alcoholism seriously, I did not know that my alcoholism was taking me very seriously indeed.

Chat later, I hope. Tomorrow is a new day.

MIFLAW · 10/08/2010 00:40

Congrats, Melvynmummy! Nice to hear something positive tonight. Keep at it!

WasindieNial · 10/08/2010 01:42

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TrinityRhino · 10/08/2010 06:03

morning all
well what a night

I went to bed at 10 after half a bottle

then i was woken at 2am by them habing fun downstairs so went and shut the door

then at 4 their baby woke up and they didn't hear her so I took her downstairs to them and the their baby woke at 5.30 and sh didn't wake up so I went to try and settke her but she had pooped so I changed her and now we are watching telly

TrinityRhino · 10/08/2010 06:04

i'm knackered and glad tht I idn't carry on drinking

TrinityRhino · 10/08/2010 06:05

I cannot type wihht these nails lol

venusandmars · 10/08/2010 06:46

Morning Trin,

bet you are glad that you are not feeling so shit and hungover, and are able to care for that little baby.

venusandmars · 10/08/2010 07:10

I am up early because I've got loads to do and I'm going to be out all day. Now here is my post for anyone who is reading this morning.

GOOD MORNING! (for those who are hungover and feeling rough that might have hurt your ears, apologies).

As MIFLAW put it, there ws a lot of excitment going on here last night. For anyone coming to this thread this morning who did not have a drink yesterday and who is therefore on day 2+, well done, just do the same today, make it your intention not to drink.

For those who got really drunk, please just start again on day 1. Recognise how crap you feel, use it to help steel your determination about what you do today. Do not wallow in how crap and weak you are because that is not going to help you, and it is probably not true anyway.

For those who picked up a drink yesterday, and against all the odds did not carry on, a very, very special hug and well done. But I bet it was really difficult to stop once you'd started, wouldn't it have been easier if you'd not had the first drink. I hope you are all feeling OK this morning. Be kind to yourselves, eat well, get rid of the remainder of the booze that you didn't have yesterday, and have a wonderful day.

I was all too aware last night what a personal battle this is for each of us. We may all be on the same bus, and encouraging each other and caring for each other, but nothing I could do or say yesterday could stop any of you from picking up the first glass or the second or the last. That is something that each of us have to do on our own, using whatever support we can find.

It's going to be a busy day on the bus today. Book your seats now for day 1 places Grin, and make it a good one.

maddogsandenglishmen · 10/08/2010 07:36

Morning everyone. what a night it turned into after I crashed out last night. So sorry and sad that people are having such hard times.

Trinity, Christi and toclear - great that you were able to stop and not just keep going untilo the bottom of the bottle. That takes guts. And think how much better you are feeling this morning than you would be otherwise.

Also WasIndie, glad you were able to come on here and fess up. That took guts too.

Miflaw, thank you for sharing that story. I also went off the deep end after my father died, and spent more that a year off my face drunk and taking drugs. That's pretty much when my drinking changed from "having fun" to something else.

I would have been right there with you all if I had not been pregnant - I know that I would have bought as many beers as I could carry in the supermarket on the way home from work and got plastered, but because I knew that I could not get bollox-drunk, there was no point in starting. For the first time, really the first, I am profoundly grateful that I AM pregnant and that it stopped me drinking. Previously I have resented the pregnancy because I just wanted to get drunk :( :( :(

What this shows me is that I need to find better ways of dealing with shitty days and problems. I won't always have pregnancy as a buffer.

Very grateful as well this morning that I do not have to go into work - I have an antenatal appt at 11.30 and agreed with my boss that I could "work" from home before that to avoid wasting all the time on two extra trips in and out.

Hope everyone has a good/better/bearable day today.

TrinityRhino · 10/08/2010 08:03

daaaay 1

chuffed I could put down half a bottle but wish I hadn't had any

TrinityRhino · 10/08/2010 08:08

had bran flakes and raisins for brekkie

woken rach up and given back the baby now as she seemed to need some boob

had my hideous effervescent(sp?) vit B drink too

ChristianaTheSeventh · 10/08/2010 08:27

Morning everyone. All fine here.

venus how far are you through Ordinary Thunderstorms? It's pretty shocking isn't it? I kept saying 'Noooo' out loud while reading last night, DH can't wait to start it.

Good start Trinity

Maddogs everything fell apart for me too when my dad died. Coke and one or two bottles a night for me... While suffering from depression. Top top top A1 reaction.