The Archers spoilers thread #9: Can't wait for 7.02pm? Join us here!

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Spoilers thread for The Archers. All Archers listeners are welcome here, whether you post on our main Archers thread or not. There's just one rule: please keep all spoiler-related discussion in this thread and do not spill the beans on the main Archers thread.

We usually add the BBC teasers and cast lists for forthcoming episodes as they
become available, plus the Radio Times and Daily Mail previews when possible.
Feel free to add anything else you come across, e.g. cast news, scriptwriter
tweets!

Just joining the thread, I've binge listened to two Sunday omnibus editions today and omg! I so wanted Fallon to be pregnant, Chris is a Saint and poor Alice is in a very black place. Chelsea in the tea room will be hilarious 😂
Is George lying because he doesn't have his licence? And wasn't insured for the car? It would be simple to tell the truth about Alice opening the car door while in motion, he's young and probably scared he will be blamed for causing the accident. He was helping Alice get home safe poor boy.
I need to stay off this thread until next week now, I like the omnibus when I'm walking on a Monday morning 🌄

I wasn’t aware this was a spoilers thread!

Yes, re Alcoholism, he has caused so much anxiety and anguish to his family… but like Alice, he too probably hates himself.

Drinking probably comes from
a place of pain.

Maybe I’d better dash off to the other thread.

Thanks!

Here, @oakleaffy:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/radio_addicts/5071894-archers-thread-165-bridge-over-troubled-waters-discuss-the-archers-here?reply=135270758

I too binge-listened while on a dog walk
I remember a long time ago when one of the main young characters, John Archer was killed by a tractor
Must have been 25 yrs plus ago-
i listed with a friend- and we were both horrified!

Ditto when Nigel, lovely Nigel fell off a roof and died.

Thank you so much @TottersBlankly
I got addicted to the archers in 1990’s when I met some “New age travellers “ who had helped me with a wood burning stove.

I was going to call round to see them one Sunday morning and they said “ Not before 12, as we Arch Out”

I was puzzled, and they said “ We listen to the Archers”

I thought they were joking-

But listened myself- Peggy was interested in meeting an old War boyfriend she knew who gave her his zippo lighter-
After that I was hooked!

Con!

That was a good long time ago! Was it a very young Kate who forged a letter from Peggy and sent it to Con to get him to come to Ambridge?

It was! That was in 1992 when Kate and Helen were being the Blossom Hill Gang. Conn Kortchmar was his name.

Kate ( Original) refused to re take her Chemistry GCSE!

I do love “Kate”, despite her being so insufferable.

The Grundy family also grew cannabis for a while I think?
Or was that Kate?

oakleaffy
The Grundy family also grew cannabis for a while I think?
Or was that Kate?

That was Ed and Jazzer, in a barn belonging to Tony and using Bridge Farm electricity. Kate may have done as well, but the idea of her sticking to a long-term project like that seems somewhat unlikely. (Ed and Jazzer got caught rather than losing interest.)

Kate had a ghastly boyfriend who (like Harry) was viewed favourably by her parents because he was posh. He had an interesting pot plant which they admired, and gave Jenny and Brian delicious brownies that made them all giggly.

Gibson I think.

We were supposed to think it was cute. I think.

I think Gibson was the one who gave Kate a bottle of pills (on which she overdosed by mixing them with whisky) as a Christmas present.

Aw I wish I could go back and listen from the archives from the start.

I sometimes wonder what useful or sensible things I'd have brain-space for if I wasn't crammed with Archers trivia.

With Chris bidding a sad goodbye next week and Alice disappearing off the cast lists, it does look like she's off to rehab, unless she gets locked up. I did wonder whether they were going to resolve the storyline to enable her to realise she's not quite such an awful person as she thinks and hence worth rehab, but as the sad goodbye is tomorrow that would require an incredibly busy 13 minutes tonight.

I live in dread that the sad goodbye will be Bartleby. Though if it lead to George deciding that the universe is punishing him for his wicked lies it might be worth it.

Is there any significance in Fallon's choice of contraception?
Would the discussions on TA/the main thread be different if she was using a hormonal or barrier method?

I'm annoyed with the SL because of the doctor's breach of patient confidentiality and that the cause of miscarriage has not been attributed to the coil.

Is it another of my red herrings?

What would have happened I expect is that Fallon would not have been told she was pregnant and would not have known she'd had a miscarriage (assuming that she was in very early pregnancy).

This however would not add to the drama.

What would have happened I expect is that Fallon would not have been told she was pregnant and would not have known she'd had a miscarriage (assuming that she was in very early pregnancy).
This. I expect it happens all the time and nobody knows about it.

Would there be complications because of the coil?

Quite likely. Wasn't Fallon tired a lot a few weeks ago?

If "Around 60% of embryos disintegrate before people may even be aware that they are pregnant." then probably half the women who start to be pregnant don't know about it and don't have to be forced into a grieving process about it by their baby-mad spouses.

When I was in my teens there was no way to know for sure whether having a heavy period had in fact been having a miscarriage, because there was no way to tell for sure whether a woman was pregnant until after she'd missed a second period. I remember home pregnancy tests first going on the market, and how it changed a lot of people's perceptions.

Indeed. I've had early positive pregnancy tests for pregnancies that have ended at the same time as my period would have arrived. If I hadn't been actively trying and testing for various reasons, I'd have had no idea that I'd been pregnant or that the end result was anything other than a period. In my case it triggers no emotions because I only knew I was pregnant for a few days before it ended and I've had babies both before and since. However, I do appreciate how lucky I've been and I know people who find themselves in different circumstances might feel completely differently about the same scenario...

I can certainly see why Harrison reacted the way he did. He was given sight of his dream only to have it snatched away within 24 hours... (I don't dare think about what might have happened if the pregnancy was viable and Fallon wanted to consider her options... I guess we might still have an interesting storyline to come in that respect, seeing as there's such clarity about how devastated Harrison feels vs Fallon).

Do we know how far along Fallon was supposed to be? I'm assuming she was expected to be 6 weeks plus, as the doctor was very certain about there being no heartbeat vs saying it was too early to tell and asking them to return for another scan...

I was pregnant in 1979. I had to wait until I'd missed a second period, as you say, then go to the doctor wait for the result of the pregnancy test (at least a week) then, when the result was positive, told to either go away and come back at 12 weeks for 'booking in' or start making arrangements for a termination then. I had the baby.

Consolidated spoilers.

Fri 17.5 There’s a sad goodbye for Chris, and Chelsea gets carried away.

WRITER: Sarah Hehir
DIRECTOR: Rosemary Watts
Jolene Archer…. Buffy Davies
Kenton Archer…. Richard Attlee
Pip Archer…. Daisy Badger
Harrison Burns…. James Cartwright
Alice Carter…. Hollie Chapman
Chris Carter…. Wilf Scolding
Ruairi Donovan…. Arthur Hughes
George Grundy…. Angus Stobie
Jakob Hakannson…. Paul Venables
Chelsea Horrobin…. Madeleine Leslay
Tracy Horrobin…. Susie Riddell
Alistair Lloyd…. Michael Lumsden
Paul Mack…. Joshua Riley
Adam Macy…. Andrew Wincott
Kirsty Miller…. Annabelle Dowler
Freddie Pargetter…. Toby Laurence
Fallon Rogers…. Joanna Van Kampen
Mick…. Martin Barrass
Lisa…. Rhiannon Neads (Alice's AA buddy)

Radio Times Ambridge Diary 12-17 May:
After the traumatic events of last week, the village is still in shock. Several characters are desperate to keep their own secrets under wraps as fingers are pointed and suspicions are raised, but it sounds as if at least one will crack under the pressure. Tracy tries to bring everyone together for the cricket match, but has trouble raising a team. Meanwhile, Adam struggles to hold his family together as the Aldridges implode and Alice hits the self-destruct button.

Daily Mail Weekend Magazine May 12th-17th
As Ambridge continues to be rocked by last week's events, Tracy looks to unify the village, but Adam is struggling to hold his family together - and might it be too late to save Alice?

Sun 19/5 Tensions rise at the cricket, and Jazzer attempts to lend a hand from afar.
20/5 There’s an emergency at Brookfield, and Freddie relives the past.
21/05 Neil offers support to a friend, and Kirsty has a secret weapon.
22/5 Harrison has the rug pulled from under him, and Ben launches a surprise.
23/5 Emotions run high for Tom, and Vince finds himself cornered.
24/5 Fallon reaches the end of her tether, and there’s a shock for Joy.

Writer: Liz John
Director: Jeremy Howe
Ben Archer…. Ben Norris
David Archer…. Timothy Bentinck
Tom Archer…. William Troughton
Pat Archer…. Patricia Gallimore
Harrison Burns…. James Cartwright
Neil Carter…. Brian Hewlett
Vince Casey…. Tony Turner
Mick Fadmoor…. Martin Barrass
George Grundy…. Angus Stobie
Joy Horville…. Jackie Lye
Alistair Lloyd…. Michael Lumsden
Jazzer McCreary…. Ryan Kelly
Kirsty Miller…. Annabelle Dowler
Elizabeth Pargetter…. Alison Dowling
Freddie Pargetter…. Toby Laurence
Lily Pargetter…. Katie Redford
Fallon Rogers…. Joanna Van Kampen
Inspector Norris…. Bharti Patel

Radio Times Ambridge Diary 19-24 May:

As the fallout from the crash continues, tempers flare and hearts break. At Brookfield, barn dance preparations are hampered by a farming emergency, events prove triggering for one Grey Gables resident and Ben has a brainwave. Controversial decisions are made at the cricket, Kirsty finds herself in trouble and Tom makes an admission.

26.5 Harrison has some making up to do, and Chelsea learns a few new tricks.
27.5 There’s a crisis at Casey Meats, and Lilian treads carefully.
28.5 Jakob has bad news to impart, and Lynda launches her latest scheme.
29.5 Ben struggles to say no, and Jolene makes an interesting discovery.
30.5 Freddie hatches a plan, and Oliver has concerns.
31.5 Vince issues a warning, and a new era dawns for Tracy.

Writer: Sarah Hehir

Ben Archer… Ben Norris
Jolene Archer…. Buffy Davies
Pat Archer…. Patricia Gallimore
Harrison Burns…. James Cartwright
Lilian Bellamy… Sunny Ormonde
Vince Casey…. Tony Turner
George Grundy…. Angus Stobie
Jakob Hakansson…. Paul Venables
Chelsea Horrobin…. Madeleine Leslay
Tracy Horrobin…. Susie Riddell
Freddie Pargetter…. Toby Laurence
Fallon Rogers…. Joanna Van Kampen
Lynda Snell… Carole Boyd
Robert Snell…. Michael Bertenshaw
Oliver Sterling…. Michael Cochrane
Jason Burntwood [who he?]…. Ian Conningham

2.6 The penny drops for Lynda, and Freddie faces a dilemma.
3.6 Fallon springs a surprise, and Vince is on the warpath.
4.6 Joy attempts to make amends, and there’s trouble brewing for Lilian.
5.6 Freddie has a dangerous idea, and George is feeling the pressure.
6.5 Harrison comes to a realisation, and it’s a big day for Ben.
7.5 An intense and gripping week of events unfolds in Ambridge. Listen to all the drama here. [Placeholder text, in other words. Hmm.]

No cast list for this last week yet! Based on earlier weeks, this doesn't necessarily signify anything. Will update when I can.

A farming emergency!!!