Archers thread #164: AmbridgEnders! An Everyday Story of Soapy Folk. Discuss The Archers here.

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Thread thrown together in great haste in advance of tonight's episode. Who's in the Am? Is it George's fault? Is this the end for Alice? Over to you!

Joy has a murky past - turned a new page and is relentlessly positive to bury her past.

i guess we are going to find out!

@BoreOfWhabylon what does the 🔮 have to say about all this?

How could one misspell Tim Harford? (rhetorical question) It's more or less just as you say it.

George moved the passed out drunk Alice from the passenger seat to the driver's seat swiftly despite the fact that he was soaked through.

That is an excellent point. Surely even the dimmest of the Borsetshire constabulary could miss that clue.

I've listened since the 90s but haven't bothered in months before this thread bought me back in. Hopefully this will make things interesting again.

It costs money to investigate an RTC exhaustively, if it looks obvious, cops won’t bother.

There is a natural urge to write Hartford. I don't know why, but even I feel it (and I'm the poster who spelled it correctly upthread). Possibly it's just a more common name, possibly it's a more common letter combination in general. And you wouldn't hear the t in a lot of accents.

I’m not sure I agree. If Alice had put the keys in the glove box she wasn’t intending to drive. It was George (with no insurance?) who decided to drive her home so he was responsible for the car being on the road

@WhoppingBigBackside - sure, if you say Harford you're likely to spell it correctly, it's more - as Fink points out - that's it easy to misremember the name as Hartford.

Exactly.

Definitely this....

And, for the person who asked earlier, Ruairi is in the cast list for either this week or next (forget which).

i really just spent a few mins wondering if @DadDadDad was TH then, I think TH has three kids so it might add up (so to speak) but I doubt Tim H would want to do mumsnet thread stats after a long day of other stats sadly ☹️

I get that this isn't a popular opinion but we always used to keep things quite separate between the spoilers and the no spoilers threads... please can we keep things like the cast list for future episodes to the spoilers thread?

How long do the headlights stay on when a car is totally submerged in water?

Could be hours, unless the engine management computer shit switches them off.

What he can do is keep his trap shut.

Wowsers, that was tense. I really thought we were hearing Fallon drown and she was going to die.

Can't stand Denise but slightly warmed to her when she went back in for George.

I know I'm in the minority but I think George is a great character and I'm looking forward to him having a major SL. His actions tonight were bang on character... his heroism saving Fallon alongside his total inability to tell the truth and willingness to do something dreadful to save his own neck.

Good shout from whomever thinks his fancy phone will be his undoing. I think the location services will show he travelled too fast to be on foot.

This. And it's up there on the thread's sticky "rules" every time.

Yes @WhoppingBigBackside (good to see you back here!), I thought that about George’s wet clothes. How will he explain Alice also being wet?

Why was Alice where she was?
Why was she in her car parked up and blotto?

Because another car hit hers or she hit another car, and the engine stalled, would be the most reasonable explanation.

But then why were the keys in the glove box? Had she possibly taken an overdose too? Had she driven to somewhere and parked up with the intention of taking her life?

As in Tunnel.Paris.Fayed???

For two medically trained people I thought A and D were a little rusty in their emergency first aid responses, though I know they had been drinking.

I need to listen to the episode again a few times I think.

So Alice's car stayed on land and only the other went in the water? Because nobody seemed to be looking at Alice's car for ages until George ran off back to it. But it must have been concealed somewhere for A&D not to have realised there was another vehicle with potential casualties around, no?

I'm familiar with TH from his articles in the press. Hartford wouldn't have crossed my mind. I'm more familiar with Hertford. Hertford doesn't seem to me to be a surname.

TH went to the same school as the Ruairi actor, but probably not at the same time.

@TherapistInATabard , thanks. I've been lurking for a long time but accidentally posted on here thinking I was on the spoilers thread.