Archers thread #164: AmbridgEnders! An Everyday Story of Soapy Folk. Discuss The Archers here.

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Thread thrown together in great haste in advance of tonight's episode. Who's in the Am? Is it George's fault? Is this the end for Alice? Over to you!

Good theory @PassTheLemonDrizzle . Someone definitely needs to speak up.

Welcome @PassTheLemonDrizzle
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PassTheLemonDrizzle, I like your theory, though it is a little hard on Brad to be lumbered with dealing with one of George's scams yet again, and this one a seriously criminal one.

You’ve made me go back and listen again, @PassTheLemonDrizzle. It’s a good theory - but I feel I would have recognised if George were talking to Brad; he’s always a bit superior with him, whereas he sounded as if he was speaking to a mate just before he discovered Alice. But I could be wrong!

I'm honoured!

I went back and read the synopsis and the very short para about him finding to crashing includes a whole sentence on him leaving the voicemail for Will so perhaps it is more key than I thought!

Yes, that's true. However Chelsea is now working at the tea room with Fallon so it might pop up in conversation. Fallon did seem a bit more sympathetic to Alice than the others.

I think Fallon will feel conflicted about alive because she will blame herself for Alice relapsing because she cooled the friendship and wasn’t there when she needed her

of course she would be wrong to do so but I think that and the baby loss and Harrison’s reaction is going to push her over the edge

George left the fruit cider in Alice’s car!?!

Nooooooooooo!

Or was it found in her stomach contents?

Oops, sorry I meant to quote @AskingQuestionsAllTheTime and not @TottersBlanklyOnTheEdge.

Sorry!

You can tell I'm new at this posting malarkey!

It was mentioned twice, so it can't be insignificant. Joy and Alistair can confirm that Alice didn't buy any cider, and George did. Chris might be able to say that it would be totally out of character for Alice to drink fruit cider.

Oooh. So the fruit cider was there. Joy will remember selling it to George. That puts him there.

Chris is very understanding but Alice again was quite petulant although I know they were trying to make her be realistic!

TMI on Alastair and Denise during the jazzer conversation. And then the lie which will be easily caught out now - way too much detail.

Mick picked up on it quick though!!!

why on earth did he have the bottle of fruit cider with him? Seems odd that he had enough cider to still be drinking on his walk home. And easily excused - he checked on her before calling 999 and put the bottle in then.

the overegging of George's hero status is a bit wearisome

I listened to the episode where George bought the fruit cider. He used cash to pay whereas Alice and Alistair both paid for their shopping by card/phone. Only Joy knows that he bought fruit cider!

Oh, and the person he was talking to on the phone knows too. He said something like 'it's rank' which I assumed was a reference to the fruit cider.

New thread: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/radio_addicts/5071894-archers-thread-165-bridge-over-troubled-waters-discuss-the-archers-here

Surely the first thing Alistair and Denise would have done once everyone was out of the Am would have been to concoct a cover story for their presence, rather than Alistair making it up as he went along, ably assisted by Mick?

Will Paul let it drop or not?

I have a feeling it was the party ratehr than the cider that he said was rank. Wasn't his comment in the past tense and just after he'd said something else about the party? Going to have to LA, I suppose....

If the bottles were in the car wouldn't that mean George didn't drink them? If he'd drunk it at the party he wouldn't have brought the empties with him.

Couldn't agree more.

His character is absolutely the sort that would end up having sex with someone far too drunk to give proper consent. He wouldn't view it as rape and she either wouldn't remember enough or not feel confident enough to report so he would get away with and probably not even think he did anything wrong. I hope they don't go down that road with him but it would be completely in character if they did 🤷‍♀️

His upbringing is no excuse for the way he is. He hasn't had it particularly tough. And what about Brad? He has managed to turn out well despite a useless father and living in a very low income household and having to go without a lot more than George.

Word must be getting round about George and some of the unpleasant things he has done. Plus his arrogance no doubt shines through after a few drinks. The girls that know him steer clear. He is seemingly good looking, works out and popular on social media. He is clearly angry that the girls aren't falling at his feet as he would expect. Yet there is his cousin, a nerdy, shy and quiet type who got himself a girlfriend without even trying. It doesn't make sense to George and he is furious about it. And it's the women that are the problem, not him of course.

Rochelle 'visited' when Joy was coming round, in a hallucination.
The 'rank' reference was to the party, I think.
He said 'Don't worry, I've only had a cider' but that might have been a large bottle.

We only have George's word that his phone is broken. Isn't the location tracking stored in the cloud?

Where did the alcopops come from?

There's a new thread! See OP's post from 19:40.

Whoops sorry, I'm way behind 🤣

That’s too far away. Felpersham is the county town, I believe, so I’ve always taken it as Worcester (although name similarity makes me want to say Felpersham = Evesham and Borchester = Worcester).

There is no synagogue in Worcester. It closed in 1972.