Archers thread #154: Cider with Fat Rosie, Meadow Rise to Candleford or The Darling Horrobins of September? Get your rural saga fix – Discuss The Archers here!

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Thanks for the thread title suggestions. @HumanWetWipe came up with Cider with Fat Rosie and @BeardieWeirdie thought up Meadow Rise to Candleford. I wish I could have put in the Line of Duty mashups from the end of the last thread. Another time.

Heading for a ferry shortly, so nothing more from me for now. Over to you!

Agreed on all points. Worth bearing in mind that some of the stuff that's come out since Nigel died is a back invention of the SWs to suit later storylines. I have a vague memory that Lily getting a Gwen John picture was a plot device to bring her into close contact with Russ, who as an art teacher was asked what he thought of it, or something like that. I don't think it was ever mentioned when Nigel was alive.

weddings at a tea room? What an odd idea she has for a high end tea room. I went to a “tea” wedding. Very nice, it was, cake stands and flowers, and a man on stilts and other entertainers for the kids. I can remember it, whereas the decorations/favours etc at other weddings have merged into a blur.

I would say of the two of them it would have been lizzie enforcing ‘traditions’ rather than Nigel.

But was it in a tea room on a farm?

He also commented on the hob nobs.

I presume that now Fallon has gone for Natasha’s job offer, Emma will wake up to the idea of starting her own cafe at the charging station

That’s asking a bit much of my memory!

I’ve been to an afternoon tea themed wedding but it was in a very grand old building.

also, booths are very hard to get right in high end

I don't think they'd have booths. Private Events (daylesford.com)
I'm not sure where the tea room is in relation to the farmyard but an orchard has been mentioned before. I can see an orchard wedding being quite appealing.

tash wanted to measure up for booths

Oh sorry. Wallpaper and booths. Hmm!

booths and wallpaper don’t fit the scandi aesthetic either.

I hope fallon doesn’t forget to charge them for the kitchen equipment

Was it Fallon or Emma that Lynda offered to invest in? Whichever it was will get the charging station.

It was fallon.

yes I think that’s right and then Emma won’t get the managers job because the sw don’t want her to do well for herself

And wasn’t it lucky for Elizabeth that he was killed outright…

I remember being greatly amused by his (ludicrously protracted) fall scream being in use as a ringtone within a day or so.

Certainly didn’t mean to cause any offence against Nigel’s sainted memory! 😅

One must respect a man whose stately home is taller than the Eiffel Tower

It sounded a bit like Fallon's bonus plan proposal was going down very badly and maybe the whole deal will founder on that.

It's still making me cross that, within two days of telling Fallon that they're not renewing the lease, Natasha is swanning around proclaiming they are the new owners. I know the law is only ever observed in soaps when it suits the plot line, but this is surely ridiculous.

Natasha’s endless ‘we’s really started to grate. It felt very ‘look at me, I’m an Archer.’

He was lovely, @AngryBirdsNoMore . The way he used to say 'Oh Lizzie!'.
He was fun.

Listening to Fallon's polite but very non-committal 'mmmmms' as Natasha was spiralling into ever more grandiose fantasy about the NuTearooms, I really thought she was going to tell her to stuff it up her organic jumper.

Hopefully there’s still time for that moment to come, and I for one will relish it when it does.

I don’t usually feel sorry for Emma but I did last night.

Yes, her sobs. 😞

The problem with Emma is that she builds it up in her mind that she is going to do something (grey gables role, this manager job) and is then angry/devastated when she doesn’t get it.

fallon clearly doesn’t see her as at all ambitious or wanting more and I think I would have been more upset about that and the fact i’d lost my ability to negotiate my own contract

The contract isn't signed. Tasha will find the email and think Emma much more malleable. Offer it to her no bonuses. Then what. Gallon and Emma fall out?

Poor Emma, and Fallon too, so oblivious to Emma thinking she'd got the manager job, they've both been really messed around. I think this is a really interesting storyline, because I think all 3 of them are trying to do the right things for themselves, for all the right reasons, but completely seeing past how their decisions impact on each other.