Discuss The Archers #107: Beware of the Dragon! Peggy's in her den awaiting bids - who gets the hoard and who gets flamed?

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Thanks to @MrsGrindah for inspiration for the title of this thread. I was hoping to find a way to combine it with @C8H10N4O2's inspired suggestion of '"The Assumption of the Ambridge Angel' and @chemenger's comment 'I hope she gets kicked in the head by a horse and wakes up an atheist', but it all got a bit too lengthy.

Odds on Joe shuffling off this mortal coil before this thread ends? We've been marking/anticipating his passing for a while now.

Was Jazzer talking about Star Wars/Rogue One, then, R4? I've seen that but didn't recognise the quote, had to Google it!

Why is Adam doing the heavy-duty sighing and "I told you sos" at the prospect of the likes of Terry Button and others putting in bids? Yes, opening up the competition to everyone will attract time-wasters, but it affects him personally not one jot.

Was Jazzer talking about Star Wars/Rogue One, then, R4?
It was Jim that did the quotation!
I am being presumptuous blaming Jazzer. I suppose it could have been Al. Or Jim's own research for pub-quiz purposes.

my money is on Grundy and Adam project
Good shout. Lots of potential for 'hilarious' misunderstandings and differences in approach.

Yes, that's what I meant, Jazzer talking to Jim. I don't remember that, but I agree it's the most likely reason for Jim to know that phrase.

Re Mr Button being a mycologist - yes, I seem to recall that when he was first mentioned ages ago he was described as the Borsetshire Fungal Recorder, or something like that. I can't believe that's a full-time job.

Is the helpline for abuse survivors, or is it for people who need help to cope with the SL?

It's where the Button girls get their joie de vivre from, their dad being such a fun guy.

(Sorry, someone had to. )

www.britmycolsoc.org.uk/mycology/recording-network

I'll never look at a tray of button mushrooms in the same way again.

Mentioned Peggy's Trust to my accountant, and had a look on line. AIUI it can't be a charitable trust, because a charitably trust's recipients can't be restricted to family. Unless Peggy has changed it when she opened it to the village.

A non-charitable trust would have consequences for IHT, which I might attempt to explain in another post - I think it makes it unfairto Peggy's beneficiaries when she dies. (I am not an expert, but think I know enough to try to explain, a relative of mine and I got to grips with it as her mother had money.)

A charitable trust would also be subject to Inheritance Tax, but the rules are complex and are well beyond my understanding.

I just want to express my joy at an episode with no Shula and with added Lynda and Robert.

Yes, me too echt! Also, Lynda and Robert were good.

Sorry chem I meant you. I'd just read a post by echt on the spoilers thread, and got your names mixed up. Oops!

Damn and blast!

Poor Ed... Yes, he's been an idiot but BLOODY Will. He is an utterly insufferable git - I hate him!

I was gasping out loud.

Ed is such an easily-led numpty. Will he never learn. Even my patience is exhausted.

Doom! Dooooom unto the House of Grundy!

No doubt Ed will now try to kill Will

No. Ed will try to sell the weedkiller.
Where will MiaNed live now?

I won't hold my breath waiting for Emma to take her share of the blame for convincing Ed to work with Tim in the beginning when he wanted to avoid anything dodgy but she was all for it.

How will this tie into Joe's story? Will he go to his grave thinking Ed is a self-sabotaging idiot.

For the first time in about a year I listened live to tonight's episode, I just knew something awful was going to happen

Ed's well and truly up the creek without a paddle. I guess the best scenario is if he voluntarily goes to the police, Tim gets arrested and Ed gets off with a lesser charge (would either of them go to prison though? Or just caution/fine?), then Adam does a Good Samaritan act and lets Ed keep his job (or resume it after prison?). However you look at it, the new house purchase looks scuppered.

And ginger wine is definitely just a Christmas drink, although it is delicious any time of year!

Emma is totally to blame for Ed's predicament, but she'll be laying into him as if it's all his fault

Word will get round that Adam sacked Ed, which will make getting another job in Ambridge, difficult, if not impossible.

And bloody Will! He's such a volatile knuckle dragger. He's nothing but trouble. If I was Ed, I'd be tempted to tell Bev about him taking Poppy out at night.

Will is going to catch it in the neck from everyone for Ed's petty criminality being discovered and getting Ed into trouble, and he will deserve it for going and having a confrontation with Ed at Ed's work.

What a numpty Ed was, though, to fuel Will's (understandable) anger about Ed lying to him repeatedly, by telling Will that George had been in a car which had been tail-ended. The way he did it made it sound as if it was to do with Tim Oatey, and Ed knew it was nothing to do with Tim so he ought simply to have not said anything about it. It was only after he thought Ed's stupidity had put his son at risk that Will really went ballistic.

Poor Ed... Yes, he's been an idiot but BLOODY Will. He is an utterly insufferable git - I hate him!

I think Will was justified in being angry. Although it was not helpful obviously going round to Home Farm.

But it's a horrible storyline.