Thread #106: Jim’s in a jam, Peggy’s made a pickle and Lexi is blooming - sounds like the entries are lining up for this year’s flower and produce show, but who will be on the organising committee?

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Holding episode tonight, I thought - not much progress on any current storyline. I was a touch surprised Natasha wasn't offended by the postnup idea but I suspect she's biding her time.

As idiotic as Peggy is, Emma was completely out of order expressing a view on how she uses her money. I agree that a wider field would be better, but really...

Gnasher's playing a blinder of a bluff isn't she? If she refused the post nup they know she's a wrong 'un but the more she says it's reasonable the more idiot Tom digs his heels in.

I'm not sure it's that so much as simply that she wants to protect her business assets from Tom and his family too. Though given her general insouciance about debt maybe there's not much of substance to protect.

Adam’s arid arable can be sexed up with feebs fertile farming flourish

I think Emma has a point about it being open to everyone, but I wish she'd get rid of the chip on her shoulder.

In many ways she has a better deal than many. Being able to live with her in laws before buying a new house, free child care so she can work. I know she works hard, but so do lots of people who will never be able to own a house or pick up extra shifts because they don't have childcare.

I thought Emma was going to mention being dropped by Peggy without any notice, or payment in lieu of notice, and then expecting her to just pick it back up when Peggy calls. She didn't even apologise for treating Emma like that.

But the chip on Emma's shoulder is getting boring.

Me too @Motoko. I suppose her comments are just paving the long and winding road until the midnight chemical runs are discovered.

Yep.

Is Peggy calling it a charitable trust ? I am not completely sure but when she responded to Emma did sh

That will teach me to post so early in the morning!
Did Peggy not say I know you work hard but what's that got to do with the charitable trust. It's quite possible I am making this up, influenced by my dislike of Peggy, but I think I would have a view on an arrangement of that sort that was only open to family. Peggy is framing it as a project for Ambridge and its actually not as simple as that. I thought it was real lady bountiful stuff.

Did Peggy not say I know you work hard but what's that got to do with the charitable trust

That was how I heard it. And I don't think Emma was out of order, Peggy treated her disgracefully as if she was some unwanted household appliance rather than a long term, loyal worker who did her job well.

Peggy wants to play lady bountiful whilst keeping her money in the family. Emma is right. If she really gave a monkeys about the environment she would set up the trust blind and not restrict it to a few favoured family members.

I still don't understand how its legal.

From what's been said on here, it doesn't sound as though the SWs were as thorough as they might have been with the 'charitable trust' research. And I don't care for Peggy's grand projet one bit.

But I can't have been the only one inwardly groaning at Emmur oh-so-smugly declaring that me'n'Ed would have some ideas about what was good for the environment. What with the noxious chemicals stashed in the barn and everything.

True Bert But she wasn' t much of a teenage rebel maybe she's decided to rebel in her own way a bit late.

Emmur oh-so-smugly declaring that me'n'Ed would have some ideas about what was good for the environment

To be fair, I don't think she was being smug but she is right to point out that Peggy's family don't have the monopoly on environmental ideas. What about Kirsty and the local trust she works with? Why. not involve local environment trusts?

Its just a grandiose scheme to keep the money in the family whilst superficially helping the environment.

Its just a grandiose scheme to keep the money in the family whilst superficially helping the environment

This is the bit I don't get; if it's a family matter then none of Emmurr's, or anyone else's business. Effectively, they've hear about the equivalent of a will/distribution of assets and are chipping in. No-one's concern but the family.

Would a charitable trust avoid Inheritance Tax? Whereas a non charitable trust would not? Not that the SWs will bother about things like that. I bet when Peggy dies her estate will be distributed in an unfeasibly short length of time.

I was impressed with Emma (although it was a bit rude) but I thought it came across that she thought the cash was more like "prize money " rather than money you would use on the business.

She shouldn’t have called it the Ambridge Conservation Trust if it was just for family members.

I thought it was established in the last thread, that keeping it in the family, is illegal if it's a charitable trust?

I too thought it was ironic what Emma said about her and Ed having ideas that would help the environment, although to be fair, she doesn't know they've got those chemicals stashed in their barn. It did also appear that she thinks of it as a prize, where they get to keep the money to spend on their new house.

I'm not sure what ideas they could come up with though. They've never seemed to me, to be particularly concerned with the environment. Kirsty is much more likely to have ideas though.

Something else. How come the news got round so quickly? It it was just in the family nobody else really needed to know about it, surely?

Something else. How come the news got round so quickly? It it was just in the family nobody else really needed to know about it, surely?

Exactly. So unlikely and so no-one else's business. SW cock-up on the verisimilitude front.

How come the news got round so quickly? It it was just in the family nobody else really needed to know about it, surely?

Well, Lillian is working in the pub, that work consisting mainly of chattering as far as I can see.

But even if the award were opened up to anyone in Ambridge and Ed won it, would it actually mean he would earn more money? If it's for something like improving biodiversity, would the Trust pay for Ed's time in doing whatever? Are labour costs included in the grant? How does it actually benefit the person behind the idea, rather than the idea itself? I received a grant for improving my village's environment but there wasn't any actual cash payable to me for my time in coming up with the idea, researching, talking to contractors, supervising, etc. My labour wasn't remunerated.

Yes Motoko I thought that.

Well, Lillian is working in the pub

How long has Lillian been working in the pub? Is it just to help out while J'lene's away?

And I've just realised this is my first post on this thread. Many thanks gasp and whoever came up with that stupendous title! (LilG ?)