*The Archers No.95* *Welcome to the 'real' world Ben and Ruarhi, the bad boys of on roading and welcome to the cereal cupboard little Rosie *!

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Thanks to witchmountain for the last thread and to dadx3 for Godfathering them! Also to any other posters whose ideas I have borrowed for the title.

Yes I liked last night's episode too bucking

Pat actually CARES, for the environment, for the homeless etc. She's not brittle IMO , just a worrier.

What's wrong with a bit of comedy Mike ?

Where did you think Johnny came from Buckingfrolics? He’s the son of the dead son.

And the best new Archers character in decades.

Just wondering what the difference between "stew" (a la Pat) and "casserole (revered Jill) is?

Obviously Jill has the power to banish war famine pestilence and death by turning up with a casserole but otherwise, in culinary terms, is there a difference?

Jessica I'm aware intellectually where Jonny comes from. Just not emotionally.

Jessie ! Sorry

I would say stew is done entirely on the hob but a casserole spends some time in the oven.

Stew cooked on oven top. Casserole inside oven.

EntomologicallyI wonder if stew is english root and casserole French, leading to the sense that casserole is more refined and posher than stew.

Entomologically, I think one of them would have to contain insects.

Etymologically, I think casserole is named after the dish it's cooked in, and stew from the process. I may investigate further, when I'm back at my desk. I'm having a very procrastinatory sort of day.

Stew can be cooked in the oven if you have an Aga (& le Creuset). Bottom oven.

Not sure if either brand has been mentioned on the Archers. but would take it as given that Pat or Jill or both have them.

I hadn't pictured Neil and Susan looking like this, but it would explain a good deal.

Not listened yet, but I didn’t want R4’s excellent pun to pass unremarked.

I thought from the way Jenny talks about her 'cooker' that it was supposed to be an Aga, Rayburn or similar. I'm not sure about Brookfield because I don't think they've had the kitchen redone since Jill moved (back) in and I can't imagine David and Ruth would be bothered with one. Although I suppose it might well have been there since Jill first lived there. My grandmother's Rayburn is still going strong long nearly 20 years after she died.

Of all Archers, I'd say Pat and Tony are the least likely to have a range cooker. Apart from Kenton, he definitely wouldn't have one.

I wish I had Rayburn/Aga range type, it would suit my kitchen so well (beams, 16C) but it was 'modernised' by the last residents who effed it up I live in hope

R4 - It is indeed an excellent pun (although I must confess I had to look it up).

witch
Sew kind of you to mention it. I thought that it had got lost in amongst the rest of the stuff in the thread.

I thought it was a parody of Chaucer-era spelling!

I love Neill ref. the kefir "It didn't 'alf taste funny!"

Due to ignorance on my part, I didn't even realise it was a pun. I'm feeling a bit of a knit, but clearly we all needle brush up on this topic. Sorry, it's bringing out the worsted in me.

I meant to ask: is Stitch and Bitch a real thing, or an invention of the SW?

Anyway, I prefer going to my woollens and Fight Club crossover: Knit and Hit.

Oh, yes. Stitch'n'bitch is A Thing. The feral cousin of knit'n'natter.

I've no idea, Dad It's the first time I've heard of it Though it's all back in fashion now isn't it ? Crewel needles and all of course, I do sew but I don't remember what they are used for, maybe darning R4 ?

I hate sewing and knitting. It makes me feel all crochety.

There is an Aga or Rayburn at Brookfield. There was quite a hoo ha when Jill and Phil first moved out and D&R moved in. Jill popped back and found the Aga switched off. She was aghast.

Crewel work is embroidery or tapestry with wool.

Stew apparently comes from old French estuve (heat in steam), which in turn probably comes from a Greek word for smoke, steam.

Casserole is from the dish, diminutive version of middle French casse (pan).

I'm not sure I feel massively enlightened by all this.

Jenny used to have an Aga in the 80s