*The Archers No.95* *Welcome to the 'real' world Ben and Ruarhi, the bad boys of on roading and welcome to the cereal cupboard little Rosie *!

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Thanks to witchmountain for the last thread and to dadx3 for Godfathering them! Also to any other posters whose ideas I have borrowed for the title.

I'm surprised no one commented on the chilling comment from Jill. About it being hard the first time you kill something with your car!
In 30 years of driving I've never killed anything, and that includes plenty of rural driving.

I'm beginning to think that Jill was the true one to injure Matt - and with no conscience about it!

I’d have expected a long-time farmer’s wife exposed to many many generations of sheepdog to have been much more strict about not mollycoddling Bess. Phil would not have been amused.

Oh, sorry R4, I was only half listening last night (had a badly trained child rabbiting on at me) so I genuinely thought I might have missed the bit when Ben also let the dog in. I knew Jill had, but I thought Ben might have done it too.

Yes R4 Lying ( and or learning when to tell white lies ) is part of growing up.

BOOP for Lily and Shula making a success of the Hunt Ball and Lily staying on in LL to do so. Lizzie'll be complaining she's a spare part next. Was Lewis managing the cloakroom?

In 30 years of driving I've never killed anything, and that includes plenty of rural driving. Used to drive along rural roads at 6.30 every morning - the amount of roadkill was horrendous, about 3 new carcasses each day. Never killed anything myself, but somebody was.

Australian roadkill is an eyeopener - I think the kangaroos and wallabies must hurl themselves, lemming-like, into the path of the oncoming cars. My FIL won't drive after dusk because of the risk of a 'roo coming through his windscreen. Sadly, the only time I've ever seen a badger in the (dead) flesh is along the A303 - lots of carcasses there.

In 30 years of driving I've never killed anything
I've killed untold thousands. Or are we being species-ist and only counting mammals?

I would be amazed if any country dwellers had never run over an animal- where I live rabbits practically fling themselves under your tyres in the spring, pheasants and pigeons hit your windscreen and, while I've never hit a badger or a fox, you see plenty of them beside the road.

I seem to remember that that was the way their father intended things to go, Freddie inheriting, I mean.

I don't think Nigel had a choice - isn't it an entailed estate of the time which assumes ovaries are incapable of running the place, even in the face of the evidence?

Freddie might be a logical owner for the stables in the future although he would need a business manager. Its not enough just to be good with the horses.

In 30 years of driving I've never killed anything
I've killed untold thousands. Or are we being species-ist and only counting mammals?

I'm not counting Insects or anything too small for me to notice - but do include all vertebrates (certainly no fish killed).

Borrowing Bore’s crystal ball.
Tom and Natasha to marry, Hannah to interrupt ceremony at ‘does anyone see an impediment ‘ ( if they still do that) to declare she’s pregnant. Or similar, say on engagement.
Or.....
All Natasha’s recommendations go tits up. ... ruination.

Lily to run LL, ( she does sound different)

just catching up - I thought Lily was supposed to be intelligent? who needs to bother an actual doctor to find out that high temperature, feeling crappy and aching joints is the flu? No wonder the NHS is on its knees.

I agree that lying is a part of normal teenager behaviour - what I was picking up on was the consummate way that Ben did it. He drew Jill in with that "you can see right through me", generating a moment of apparent candour and bonding between the generations, but all to make sure the truth will not come out - not a flicker of conscience?

I recently ran over a pigeon. As I drove towards it, I assumed it would do the usual thing and fly away at the last moment, but just felt the awful bump under my wheel and saw a flat mess in my rear-view mirror.

No wonder the NHS is on its knees.

Lily was concerned about the high temperature, not sure if it was flu and Elizabeth has a history of heart problems. That type of condition often comes with guidance to seek medical advice sooner than if you are are just a regular healthy adult with no other contraindications.

I'd guess that is also why she was supposed to have a flu jab despite not being elderly or a child.

[Ben the Liar]

Didn't David tell Ben not to mention the public roads to anyone including Ruth/family? Or am I misremembering?

I get that the SWs probably think Susan is the comic fool type character, and I know that loads of people on here really like her, but honestly I can't stand her. She has got to be one of the most annoying characters in the whole show. Much worse than the More obviously villainous Hannah and Natasha.

Tom definitely won't marry Natasha, although it might look as if he will for a while.

He'll end up with Hannah, and PatNTone will be delighted because, after tonight, they HATE Natasha.

Am convinced the SWs have no idea how thoroughly unpleasant Hannah is. They think she is a down to earth, refreshingly honest Modern Woman.

I’m afraid I’ve seen off at least 3 pheasants this season. ( live near a shoot)

I know I keep saying this but.....Tom-you're 37, ffs!!

Tip-top episode, and a lesson about not discussing money at dinner.

When did Natasha become Welsh? I thought I detected Geordie last time she spoke.

Anyway, she's a piece of work, not eating what's put in front of her, and as and for the cosmetics!! Comedy gold for passing off her end-of-line stock, and hinting that an older woman looks tired. Still, yet another unpleasant woman on TA.

Tom is, in the words of poet, cuntstruck, and it will go Horribly Wrong.

Quote from the Nuffield Scholarship site:
Applicants must work within the farming, food, horticulture, rural and associated industries or are in a position to influence these industries.

So how did a make-up salesperson get a scholarship in the first place?

Or had she made so much money from selling snake-oil make-up that she set up her own orchard farm first?

Oh, I so want Natasha to be a real GOOP type. I look forward to hearing her trying to persuade Pat that her fanjo is in desperate need of a jade egg and a good steaming.

Tom will end up with Hannah.

Sadly Bore I think she’d consider herself too no-nonsense for that. I’m holding out for her giving Pat a botox voucher for Christmas. Tony was lucky she didn’t shove the tube up his arse with his comment at the end.