Lies and subterfuge in Ambridge - from a policeman? That's just not cricket! Discuss The Archers here.

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Thank you R4 for the title.

Wow pip was unpleasant about Bert. Although didn't recognise pip - sounding like a prepubescent boy again

Mootsie they do but David threw him out of it the other week because he needed it

Ooh! Tonight was utterly BOOP-worthy. Missed who the SW was but they obviously had fun writing a backstory for Justin.

Well! I don't know what to say! Two characters I can't normally like and I find myself warming towards both tonight. Excellent bit of writing.

That was fun - Peggy has a go at Justin about Wife No1 but the moment he mentions Jeck No1 she gets all outraged that he's been dicussing her private life.
I thought that the chat with Emmur sounded stilted. They were probably in different recording studios - understandable at her age - but the chat with Justin sounded more natural (?because they are both stilted characters?)

Emma saying she's afraid of ending up like Clarrie - I said that on here last week [preening emoticon]

That felt like the SW setting out their stall re Justin - clearing up previous ambiguities about his relationship with Miranda to prepare Lillian to step into her mother's shoes with a marriage in her autumn years to someone we should now think of a thoroughly decent man. Fair enough I suppose - Huge Canoe is after all trying the paddle his way around the mess left by SOC. I'm not sure I'll ever be able to rid my mind of the man who sacked Charlie and was completely in thrall to Knob. His voice sets me on edge for that reason - I'm not sure I'll ever be able to trust him and I still can't really see what Lillian sees in him, but on we go.

I always want to clear my throat when Justin's speaking!

I'm rather intrigued by the grenade Tom threw in at the end of Friday night's argument - "my dad was right, you're not half the farmer your father was". This achieves all sorts of dramatic things - draws Tony into the row, causes David to reflect on the handing-down of Brookfield which will make the revelation of Pip's failings even more painful for him, reminds us Tom has a nasty streak, general escalation - but have we actually heard Tony express this opinion?

Have we heard Tony express this opinion about David? I

Please ignore last line. Deletion fail, not an echo.

I think Tony did say that, didn't he? I'm pretty sure Tom was quoting direct from him.

Yep--Tony is definitely said that.

Listened to Sunday. D'you know - I think I'm beginning to get the hang of Pip's voice. Either that or she's doing something different. Didn't actually hurt to listen to her for once - so I had room to be a bit worried.

If only beautiful Ed was just a teeny bit quicker on the ...

Gruach - think you may be suffering from a form of Stockholm Syndrome.

I think its the guilt in Pip's voice

Pip is handling this so badly. She should have predicted that Adam would go straight to her dad for a moan. I did enjoy Joe and his raking up of past Archer disease spreading.

I have no idea what I would if I were Pip, you know. I can actually see myself acting like her-the longer she doesn't confess the worse it gets......Something happened to my ds at school recently- not as bad as this, obviously, but he made a split second decision to lie and then had to carry on lying.. And he had such an utterly miserable month before it all tumbled down around his ears.......And people kept telling him how worried they were about him because he seemed so unhappy, and the school referred him to the school counsellor., and it made him guiltier and guiltier.......

I was wondering whether they've got the archivist back when they started talking about something that happened 60 years ago.

I'm wondering whether Huge Canoe shares our views about the way Pip's family treat her as a combination of living saint and farming oracle, and is massively enjoying her getting into such a mess.

I'm hoping the original source of the infection turns out to not be the uncertificated cows. Perhaps Arsula brought it over from her farm on her shoes on her last visit!!
Whatever the source, Pip has now lied repeatedly and caused her father to be insulted by all and sundry while she martyrs herself saying she can't do the herbal lay thing this year because she is spending all her energy on Brookfield to cover up the fact that she gave all her money to Toby.
I'm enjoying this plot.

I'm hoping Pip gets another job far, far away.

Except that I can now see the entertainment of a disgraced, cowed (sorry!) Pip for a while. With any luck, Toby's Brighton secret won't be too far behind.

"Pip is basically the future of the show" (SoC)

Maybe Hugh doesn't want it that way

Lurker and very occasional poster here.

What I found most far fetched about the whole IBR debacle was how on the morning of the escaped cows, nobody at Brookfield noticed the milking machine starting and finishing later. Rounding up escaped cows from Bridge and Home Farm must have taken a good half an hour or 40 mins or more ... even if no one was awake to hear the machine hadn't started at 5.30 or wherever they start, they couldn't have failed to notice the machine still on a long time after the milking would normally have finished -It's not like they're a family of late risers! On our farm that would have been commented on straight away.

All that said, I'm happy to to close my eyes to the implausibility of it in delicious anticipation of Pip getting her comeuppance!

Bert unless your DS is a teacher who has been teaching the wrong syllabus to GCSE students for the last 2 years then its probably not a fair comparison. After all everyone in Borchester (especially Pip) knows that she is the best farmer in the world. She talks down to everyone, because her knowledge is soooo superior. To top it all she forgot for the first 10 days, then has lied. She is an adult. Pip is also perfectly capable of telling Tobes to do one.

I think when it all comes out the Dopeys will initially be furious with Pip but then decide it can't actually be her fault but their own fault for having expected Pip to do her job/fix the fence/take infection control seriously. She is the pope of farmers - infallible. They will also blame Josh for breaking the fence in the first place.
Why was it Pip's responsibility to fix the fence Josh broke anyway?