Male or female, young or old - Bad Stuff can happen to you in The Archers. Discuss the perils of Ambridge life here.

[PseudoBadger]

Not exactly upbeat at the moment is it

Initially, Justin said that Miranda wanted to live somewhere where she could keep / ride her horse (s), didn't he? We're not hearing her "horsey" side at all now.

She did her usual sniffy/superior routine with Shula so she's lost the goodwill of the local livery. Conversely, Anisha hasn't tried to schmooze her (cf. the boozy lunch that required Uber-Rex) because she knows that Miranda has no social influence. Considering that her DH is MFH she must be alienating people left, right and centre if she has found no horsey friends.

Interestingly, when Justin was first in TA, I remember being very conscious of picturing Simon Williams and that it was him playing Justin. But I think SiWi has so embedded the role, that I had a little jolt when ppeat* mentioned his name, as I just picture him as Justin now - sign of good acting, I guess.

I am not in a position to comment on the tastiness of SiWi (sigh).

*silly abbreviation, but can't call him SW, it will be the whole script-writer / social worker debacle again

MFH is (was?) Oliver, not Justin.

Does Justin do horses at all?

Oh, you're right Low. oops. I stick by my other two points though.

Justin does do horses and has been riding with Lilian, and even took her early on to help him buy horses.

Yes and Miranda has been heard at Shula's stables quite recently pure mince

Ouch!

Toby the Farmer!

Where y'all at?

Respec' to Miranda.

I missed the last few words - something about somebody not being happy - can someone tell me who said what about whom please?

Toby said Lillian wasn't very happy glamorous

Which was a fair assessment really.

Good on Miranda. I hope this story will be put to bed now. I've not enjoyed it at all.

Maybe Justin will decide he prefers Lillian and will dump Miranda?

Seems a bit unlikely though ...

How old is Lillian supposed to be anyway?

One thing I do like about this plotline is that it shows that 'older' women can still be sexy. Unlike most TV dramas.

And Miranda is such a bitch she can't be much fun to be married to.

I'm stunned that Lillian gave in so easily. I would have expected her to say something along the lines of "talk to your husband, not me. And don't you dare speak to me like that."
Is that Justin gone then? Do we need a new baddie?

I'm sure that is at least the second time recently that someone has said to Harrison "are you here on business?" Is that the SW's way of having a chuckle at the expense of Borsetshire’s Rural Crime Unit, who never seems to do any actual policing.

Go Miranda!!!!!!!!

Lilian has been a nuanced character with some cliched traits (first to the gin etc) but with depth and veracity. Her portrayal recently, especially in The Bull tonight, has let down years of mostly careful, satisfying character development.
The Pip and Toby save new born calf plot parallel was clunky to the point of offensiveness.
Oh FFS. Where's Jazzer?

That was a VERY busy Bull for a Monday night! Sounded like the entire village was in there.

D'you think they've just bought some new atmos tapes and wanted to get their money's worth?

I was thinking the same Kingscote! Seemed so loud! Was wondering if there was some special event I'd missed hearing about

They are trying to redeem Pipsqueak and Tobes and make us like them. It won't work

Yep - too little too late.

It would be like bringing hazel back as a kind natured philanthropist

R4 I'm very sorry, I posted too soon & didn't mean to sound so brusque

I had intended to say that, in TA, one elderly posh bloke sounds so much like any other elderly posh bloke that they all merge into one (except Jim, but nobody would ever associate him with horses, or anything other than the classics)

So is are we supposed to accept that Toby's Brighton story was true and that's all sorted now-forget and move on?

No offence taken Low.