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Surprise surprise - Kirsty has a Mini Sausage Roll in the oven! Discuss the Archers here

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PseudoBadger · 03/01/2017 10:28

Happy New Year to you all.

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LassWiTheDelicateAir · 12/01/2017 22:43

I love the terrible twins for some strange reason

Me too. They are quite horribly selfish but unapologetic about it. They both seem to like and get on well with Johnny which makes me warmer to them.

Gherkinsmummy · 12/01/2017 23:33

I've always liked Freddie since he called Roy Gollum 😀

officerhinrika · 13/01/2017 01:05

The terrible twins had to start having parties at some point. After all they are Nigel's children!

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 13/01/2017 07:23

The party has the potential to go horribly wrong, of course. Friends of ours told us about a neighbouring family whose son organised a party on a night when the parents were away from home. The music was so loud that everyone in the neighbourhood knew there was a party going on. They ended up with gatecrashers and a great deal of theft and damage. If that can happen in a suburban semi, there's scope for a lot worse in a stately home.

Imbroglio · 13/01/2017 07:39

It will happen while Elizabeth is away. I bet she blames Kenton and doesn't speak to him for a year.

Imbroglio · 13/01/2017 07:47

What happened to Lewis? Is he incarcerated in the attic?

ErrolTheDragon · 13/01/2017 08:04

Re the newly vocal Lily - how else would we expect a kid who lives in a stately home who (IIRC) is among other things doing drama to speak? It would be bizzare if she didn't sound posh drama schoolish! Grin

I note that she (egged on by Johnny) was the one determined to have a party, she's the one who drives too fast while Freddie is cautious. She may be more of a gorilla-suit Nigel type than her brother(possibly slightly brighter but iirc her gcses weren't stellar for a presumably good school). I'm hoping Freddie gets the chance to emerge from the shadow of her perhaps dodgy light in whatever debacle is about to ensue.

TheAntiBoop · 13/01/2017 08:39

He will be blamed

mummytime · 13/01/2017 09:05

Well I'm hoping the nightmare party (I know of one in a 1980s ish detached, shut down by the police and people arriving from London - 30 miles away - having seen it on Facebook); will cause Elizabeth to realise Freddie is the dependable type.
I quite like Freddie, and feel he's feeling a bit bossed and lacks self confidence. (And Elizabeth didn't do as well as she should have in her exams I seem to remember).

Gruach · 13/01/2017 09:28

There's an article about the new Lily on the TA site.

Obviously very talented but so different in appearance from my idea of Lily.

birdsdestiny · 13/01/2017 09:48

Kirsty was trying to support Helen whilst she was in an abusive relationship. She would not have been any kind of friend if she hadnt stuck her nose in forcibly! Kirsty is not in an abusive relationship she is pregnant. There is no need for Helen to override kirstys obvious reluctance to tell her. Helen is ignoring kirstys feelings in the same way that Tom is. I would run to the hills if I was Kirsty.

Vango · 13/01/2017 10:14

Kirsty was trying to support Helen whilst she was in an abusive relationship.

Kirsty didn't like Rob from day 1. She never tired of criticising him, or Helen.

I just don't believe that Helen's enquiry makes her 'selfish', 'arrogant' or 'a bloody idiot'.

Tom confided in Helen once before and it was her failure to acquaint Kirsty with that fact that caused the breakdown of their relationship. In Helen's mind, she's probably offering Kirsty a shoulder to cry on or a sounding board. Poor Helen can't do right for doing wrong.

Vango · 13/01/2017 10:19

Helen could have stopped and had a think about how she felt when Rob told everyone about her pregnancy with Jack.

That's not a fair comparison. Jack was conceived under very different circumstances.

TheAntiBoop · 13/01/2017 10:21

Kirsty swallowed a lot of her dislike of rob in the early part and it was only when she came back that she started pushing it because, having been away, she could see the change in Helen

Helen does enough thinking 'poor helen' so the rest of us don't have to

birdsdestiny · 13/01/2017 10:22

But Kirsty was right about Rob Grin

Vango · 13/01/2017 10:24

Helen does enough thinking 'poor helen'

I really don't think she does nowadays. I can't think of any examples. Since her release she's been remarkably positive.

Vango · 13/01/2017 10:32

If Helen had said nothing, and waited until Kirsty told her, how would Kirsty have felt when she (inevitably) found out that Helen had known for some time?

IAmNotAUserNumber · 13/01/2017 11:11

There's an article about the new Lily on the TA site.
So who is her significant family member in the current cast?

MrsArthurShappey · 13/01/2017 11:39

I agree that sometimes Helen 'can't do right for doing wrong', but (whatever she tells herself and others) this was motivated by 'why hasn't Kirsty told me?'. She really hasn't been the best of friends to Kirsty over the past few years (partly because she's had bigger shit to deal with, frankly). Remember how angry Kirsty was when she found out Helen knew Tom was having doubts?

I think what Kirsty was trying to avoid was being sucked into a big Bridge Farm drama. Well, delay it rather than avoid it, because it's fairly inevitable. The tendency is for everyone (maybe not so much Tony) at Bridge Farm to think they know what's best for other people, and they really quite often get it wrong. They're written very well in that regard.

And....... well, I'm just going to say this........ I now think Kirsty and Roy would be great together. They have a lovely supportive friendship, and from the odd comment here and there they both seem to find the other attractive. I don't think either of them are too fussed with a grand passion (look where that's got them both) and a considered, respectful, loving friendship is a very mature basis for a relationship. Under SOC we had Roy's ridiculous early mid-life crisis, the sparks flying off the polyester, his terrible treatment of Hayley, and his horrendous self pity when the shit hit the fan; the new and interim editors have him as a much more sympathetic character, and I'm happy to go with that.

Go Team Kroy!

TheAntiBoop · 13/01/2017 11:40

Ha ha! The actress is the one who was sacked from coronation street as she (or her agent) lied about her age. She was supposed to be playing a 14yo and is early twenties

Not sure about her relations though

LowDudgeon · 13/01/2017 11:50

She was in TA before as Helen's midwife? (That was when my listening had dwindled to almost nil so I don't remember)

MrsArthurShappey · 13/01/2017 11:58

Oh good god, the BBC TA webpage has this weekly vote 'Should Kirsty reconsider Tom’s second marriage proposal?'

64% say yes.

64%!!!!!!!!

They're going to end up back together aren't they?

TheAntiBoop · 13/01/2017 12:07

I'm sure a chunk are traditionalists who think it's best for the baby

Gruach · 13/01/2017 12:27

Here's the article on "Lily".

Beware PHOTO!

SingingAvocado · 13/01/2017 12:30

I think I pictured her like that, Gruach!