Orange Is The New Black in Ambridge. Just ask Helen. But will anyone in The Archers ever ask her WHY?

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I reckon this thread will see us through the Euros, both footy and referendum. Await the clunky topical inserts here.

Sorry Judy, I wasn't clear.

I was wondering about the point in getting David to have a go at Josh rather than getting Neil to have a go at Josh. On air, I mean.

If I was David I'd have been annoyed but I wouldn't have gone off the deep end like that, as I would have expected Neil to have made his point himself. Evidently Neil was unavailable, as ppeat said.

I meant to say 'are' on holiday not 'dare'

Sorry, not with it. Late and depressing night last night!

• Getting more depressing by the minute!

Times like this it would be nice to have TA to rely on for a little escape. But it's so rubbish atm.

They took the chickens quite a few days ago. Shouldn't Neil have noticed?

Agree gruach. We've had some more bad news today which will just be exacerbated by all of this. I want some escapism!!!

Josh said several times that neil was too busy to go down to the hens much. He knew he was doing wrong though, otherwise he would not have been so jumpy when they were collecting the hens.

sooooo, who is listening tonight then?

I am.

But it's been a disappointing day so far ...

Nice update on the EU. Mention it once, never to be heard of again.

NEIL !!!!!!

Today suddenly got better!

Great, we have progress .....

Hooray, Pat has finally thoroughly woken up, though Tony still needs a kick up the backside.

But they are still a bit dopey. I can't believe the limp dialogue. For those not listening: after Rob played mind games over school pickup...

Pat: "I think this might be a small taste of what it was like for Helen, manipulating us like this. I think he was deceiving us and that's what he did to Helen"

So, does Tony say "I know, he's an utter bastard, and the sooner he's out of lives the better. Why, I've got a good mind to..."?

No! He says "you may be right, Pat"

You ... May ... Be ... Right... Give me strength!

Then Pat follows up with "I think Rob is the one saying things to Henry, he's never been like this with us before." You think, Pat?

I think Tony may have said "you may be right" again or something equally flaccid.

Now we need it to be followed up - by them taking to a lawyer. Or contacting the cafcass person? And helen talking a bit to Caz. Who, as they'd say in these parts, hasn't got her head buttoned up the back. I hope Rob will get the rage in the hearing when he seen=s Helen's new hair do and clothes. And maybe Lillian will be helpful when she visits H and the baby.

BOOP point for Helen getting her old hairstyle back.

Why does Lilian want to see Helen? She hasn't been remotely interested when anyone has mentioned her. Is this a Paul thing? I can't remember, did Lil even see him get nasty or was it just us? And did Matt bump him off or did I imagine that?

Whilst they are right about Robanipulating Henwee, tbh if the kid wasn't behaving a bit erratically and stroppy I'd be windeting if he had a basic awareness of what is hoing on around him.

Even if Rob were the lovliest kindest father, Henwee has witnessed a stabbing, had one parent vanish never to be seen since, not even a call, and the other seriously ill on hospital.

This is the kid who was wetting the bed and getting into fights before all this.

It's a wonder he isn't back in nappies and proper challenging.

'Henry sweetheart, you seem really sad and cross: what's up?'

HOW HARD WOULD IT BE?

Did anyone listen to the crime show R4 did about a child custody battle? I'm sure in the intro they referenced The Archers current storyline. Anyway- they made a really big point of the child psychologist who came and unraveled the whole puzzle. Similar scenario coming up for us?

Oh, and that was definitely a new Henry, wasn't it?

i thought it was a new Henry too - still sounds like a toddler

Nah. Pwetty sure its the same Henwee. He still says Gwandma Arseula

Why haven't P&T thought of taking him to see his new brother? That would be one up on Rob.